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TMOG
04/02/23 5:32:13 PM
#153:


Shadow-Bolt posted...
Two notes: No idea what the guy's sign says but I assume its pretty fucked up.
It says, at least in part, "Children Cannot Consent"
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CyricZ
04/02/23 5:32:18 PM
#154:


Toonstrack posted...
Hes playing a game, and you have to know how to outplay these folks at this.
Or you could just not play the game.

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Toonstrack
04/02/23 5:32:55 PM
#155:


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Nope!

She had infinite was to respond. She chose make it physical.

Do you realize if this didn't happen, his tweet wouldn't exist?

Do you realize he is riding the wave of anti teans sentiment following the shooting last week to bait out trans people into acting violent?

You definitely see what he's doing yet you want to play into his hands anyway. Why?

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Toonstrack
04/02/23 5:34:11 PM
#156:


hockeybub89 posted...
You hate trans people.

False. I love trans people and everyone else.

I dont love that this guy is able to so easily manipulated a situation where he can now portray trans people as violent to his base.

Its not a coincidence why he's doing this given current events.

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Toonstrack
04/02/23 5:34:24 PM
#157:


CyricZ posted...
Or you could just not play the game.

That too.

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Shadow-Bolt
04/02/23 5:34:28 PM
#158:


TMOG posted...
It says, at least in part, "Children Cannot Consent"


Yeah I saw that part but that isn't exactly controversial is it? I assume its more of that "groomer" shit the alt right is pushing these days but that alone shouldn't warrant such a vehement reaction. Then his ass got rolled and I could see there was a lot more but couldn't read it. I assume the rest is where it gets fucked up.

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Zero_Destroyer
04/02/23 5:37:07 PM
#161:


I'm sure when states start passing laws banning all medical transitions and protests get increasingly violent in response to state-backed erasure policies, Toonstrack will be right there to say "You're playing into their hands!!!" since apparently we should believe that they'd stop if we just left them alone. Uh huh. Sure.

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Toonstrack
04/02/23 5:37:09 PM
#162:


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Its as convincing as the incendiary accusation required.

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Toonstrack
04/02/23 5:38:27 PM
#163:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
since apparently we should believe that they'd stop if we just left them alone. Uh huh. Sure.

Yet another made up argument.

No, they won't stop if you leave then alone but they certainly won't stop if you beat them up.

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Toonstrack
04/02/23 5:39:22 PM
#164:


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Theres many ways to stand up for yourself without becoming violent.

2 spin attempts now. Both have fallen flat.

Ask yourself genuinely what the woman got out of this. Compare it to what he got.

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whateveroh
04/02/23 5:45:37 PM
#165:


hockeybub89 posted...
You hate trans people. Every LGBTQ person in America is going to die if very urgent action isn't taken.

Come on now.....

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Heineken14
04/02/23 5:49:22 PM
#166:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
Yeah thats battery against him. He should press charges tbh.


He should. I mean, he'll obviously lose with that video evidence, but he absolutely should!

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Toonstrack
04/02/23 5:55:22 PM
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No, you really don't.

That's unfortunate because there's no way to make it clearer to you. Let's just hope he doesn't get the opportunity to put you in this position because you've displayed that you will give him what be wants again.

Like I said, you don't have to like my posts. But I know that you know that they are correct.

You're actually doing what he did, here in this thread. Trying to provoke. Im displaying to you what a proper response to that looks like. You should learn from this.

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epik_fail1
04/02/23 6:02:45 PM
#171:


I understand that this AH's views probably pushed her to her limit, but I encourage people to protect peacefully. Rightists love moments like this for their propaganda. She attacked her first and now they will use this moment for a while

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Heineken14
04/02/23 6:08:56 PM
#173:


epik_fail1 posted...
I understand that this AH's views probably pushed her to her limit, but I encourage people to protect peacefully. Rightists love moments like this for their propaganda. She attacked her first and now they will use this moment for a while


He put his hands on her first.

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GranQroppoop
04/02/23 6:17:28 PM
#174:


For those asking about his sign, he has another post with "Children cannot consent to puberty blockers" so I presume that's what was on the front of the sign. When he gets turned around it has "Dad - noun - a human male that protects his kids from gender ideology" on the back.

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epik_fail1
04/02/23 6:19:26 PM
#175:


Heineken14 posted...
He put his hands on her first.

I did not notice on first time. I had to watch again, never mind

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Eat_More_Beef
04/02/23 7:15:39 PM
#176:


Toonstrack posted...
She provoked him to put his hand on her to remove her from his personal space.

If the roles were switched it would be fully agreed upon he was doing this.

And he provoked them by showing up to a protest with that shitty sign. So, he instigated it first.

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pistachio12
04/02/23 7:29:05 PM
#177:


I still can't get over the fact that Toon said civil rights leaders were peaceful as some sweeping generalization. Dude might need to do some research.
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hockeybub89
04/02/23 7:37:02 PM
#178:


Toonstrack posted...
False. I love trans people and everyone else.

I dont love that this guy is able to so easily manipulated a situation where he can now portray trans people as violent to his base.

Its not a coincidence why he's doing this given current events.
Again, who gives a fuck? His base wants to eliminate all trans people and then expand their reign of terror from there. His base doesn't give a fuck how trans people behave because they want them gone. Trans people have zero responsibility to make an effort and try to convince evil people to stop killing them. They've been attacked unprovoked from the very beginning. The trans people are blameless victims. It's not lack of knowledge or unwillingness to educate that is causing this genocide. It's pure maliciousness and lack of empathy. That can't be cured, only defeated.

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Shadow-Bolt
04/02/23 7:44:15 PM
#180:


GranQroppoop posted...
For those asking about his sign, he has another post with "Children cannot consent to puberty blockers" so I presume that's what was on the front of the sign. When he gets turned around it has "Dad - noun - a human male that protects his kids from gender ideology" on the back.


Yeah, fuck that guy. Using that logic, children cannot consent to any medical treatment and therefor should be allowed to suffer and/or die as a result. Stupid logic is stupid and as such can be ignored.

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viewmaster_pi
04/02/23 7:45:43 PM
#181:


"how do you keep your composure?"

-fight immediately starts-

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AceMos
04/02/23 7:59:11 PM
#182:


pistachio12 posted...
I still can't get over the fact that Toon said civil rights leaders were peaceful as some sweeping generalization. Dude might need to do some research.
he thinks sit ins where just ppl going to restaurants and sitting down

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TMOG
04/02/23 8:01:16 PM
#183:


AceMos posted...
he thinks sit ins where just ppl going to restaurants and sitting down
If it's all they show on TV then it's all they were, right?
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Toonstrack
04/02/23 8:10:47 PM
#184:


hockeybub89 posted...
Again, who gives a fuck? His base wants to eliminate all trans people

And incidents like this help him do that more effectively.

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Toonstrack
04/02/23 8:11:37 PM
#185:


pistachio12 posted...
I still can't get over the fact that Toon said civil rights leaders were peaceful as some sweeping generalization. Dude might need to do some research.

I never said they were all totally peaceful. The peaceful ones were the most successful of the bunch though.

They also were smart enough not to fall for bait stuff like this.

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hockeybub89
04/02/23 8:20:36 PM
#186:


Shadow-Bolt posted...
Yeah, fuck that guy. Using that logic, children cannot consent to any medical treatment and therefor should be allowed to suffer and/or die as a result. Stupid logic is stupid and as such can be ignored.
"Children can't consent to puberty blockers, now excuse me while I get my child circumcised without their consent."

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Razor
04/02/23 8:23:29 PM
#187:


Toonstrack posted...
I never said they were all totally peaceful. The peaceful ones were the most successful of the bunch though.

They also were smart enough not to fall for bait stuff like this.

The only reason MLK Jr. chose to protest peacefully was because he believed that if they used force , they would be met with force.

He was strongly inspired by Gandhis teachings on nonviolent resistance. Ironically Gandhi was known privately to be racist towards black people.
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gamestunner
04/02/23 8:31:04 PM
#188:


So he said words and she chooses violence?

2 wrongs don't make a right.

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FigureOfSpeech
04/02/23 8:31:41 PM
#189:


Razor posted...
The only reason MLK Jr. chose to protest peacefully was because he believed that if they used force , they would be met with force.

He was strongly inspired by Gandhis teachings on nonviolent resistance. Ironically Gandhi was known privately to be racist towards black people.

Epic Rap Battles of History had MLK vs. Gandhi in a rap battle and they were played by Jordan Peele and Keegan Michael Key respectively. It was a pretty good and pretty evenly matched battle. I can't post a video of it here though because it contains uncensored banned words.
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TMOG
04/02/23 8:32:55 PM
#190:


gamestunner posted...
So he wants her to not exist and she chooses violence?
Fixed that unfortunate typo for you
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sutree
04/02/23 8:35:36 PM
#191:


gamestunner posted...
So he said words and she chooses violence?

2 wrongs don't make a right.

Clearly you don't understand... when you are screaming in someones face and they lightly graze their hand against you it is totally cool to go gorilla mode on them.

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AceMos
04/02/23 8:37:11 PM
#192:


sutree posted...
Clearly you don't understand... when you are screaming in someones face and they lightly graze their hand against you it is totally cool to go gorilla mode on them.
when you show up with a bigoted sign you have already stated you stand for violence


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hockeybub89
04/02/23 8:40:00 PM
#193:


TMOG posted...
Fixed that unfortunate typo for you
But we can't be too mean to the bigots or they'll make people stop existing twice as hard!

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AllCopsAreGood
04/02/23 8:40:16 PM
#194:


The person with the blonde hair assaulted first. That person clearly has mental problems.
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Heineken14
04/02/23 8:40:57 PM
#195:


gamestunner posted...
So he said words and she chooses violence?

2 wrongs don't make a right.


Maybe he should have kept his composure and not put his hands on her.

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Heineken14
04/02/23 8:42:14 PM
#196:


AllCopsAreGood posted...
The person with the blonde hair assaulted first. That person clearly has mental problems.


Hmmmm, new shal alt? Nah, usually not this blatant.

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AllCopsAreGood
04/02/23 8:44:03 PM
#197:


Heineken14 posted...
Hmmmm, new shal alt? Nah, usually not this blatant.
Who's alt I ask as a flash a bit morality and feel good about myself
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Heineken14
04/02/23 8:46:50 PM
#199:


whateveroh posted...


You tell him, Heineken.

That transphobic motherfucker needed to fuck off.


Ok.

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Jiek_Fafn
04/02/23 8:55:48 PM
#200:


He provoked a fight verbally and then lightly shoved her. Then she more aggressively ragdolled him.

Even taking out that he's a piece of shit, I'm inclined to agree with the police here. She didn't exactly use proportional force, but it wasn't unreasonable either. It's not like she bashed his face in. She cleared herself from danger with an amount of force that got the job done without doing any real damage. That's actually a pretty solid job tbh

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St0rmFury
04/02/23 8:57:02 PM
#201:


CyricZ posted...
Topic's not great.


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gamestunner
04/02/23 8:58:11 PM
#202:


TMOG posted...
Fixed that unfortunate typo for you

AceMos posted...
when you show up with a bigoted sign you have already stated you stand for violence

Maybe if the whole story was presented instead of a video of a man being interviewed and a trans woman yelling like a moron the picture could be painted different
sutree posted...
Clearly you don't understand... when you are screaming in someones face and they lightly graze their hand against you it is totally cool to go gorilla mode on them.

Heineken14 posted...
Maybe he should have kept his composure and not put his hands on her.

Your allowed to push back while someone is being obnoxious and pounces on you.


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hockeybub89
04/02/23 9:01:21 PM
#203:


gamestunner posted...
Maybe if the whole story was presented instead of a video of a man being interviewed and a trans woman yelling like a moron the picture could be painted different
He's a piece of filth clearly protesting trans people by calling them all pedophiles. But sure, describe it as "some man being interviewed for an indiscernible reason"

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