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Smallville
03/30/23 1:36:17 PM
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iirc, the counterargument to evolution iirc. What do you think of it?

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Tyranthraxus
03/30/23 1:44:24 PM
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Smallville posted...
iirc, the counterargument to evolution iirc. What do you think of it?

Irreducible complexity is another word for intelligent design and it doesn't make any sense.

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AloneIBreak
03/30/23 1:52:07 PM
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Not impressed by the argument. The refutations offered up by biologists are more convincing to me than the irreducible complexity argument.

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Questionmarktarius
03/30/23 1:54:28 PM
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Doesn't the every existence of plants undermine the irreducible complexity argument?
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Smallville
03/30/23 3:54:08 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Doesn't the every existence of plants undermine the irreducible complexity argument?
how so?

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Questionmarktarius
03/30/23 3:56:19 PM
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Smallville posted...
how so?
Take out an animal's liver, it will probably die, yes
Cut a limb off a tree, tree don't care.

...or is this about eyes again?
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Ruvan22
03/30/23 5:45:48 PM
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Smallville posted...
iirc, the counterargument to evolution iirc. What do you think of it?

I mean wasn't that the counterargument to a lot of previous scientific discoveries/concepts? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what it is...
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ellis123
03/30/23 5:50:40 PM
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It is dumb and anyone who thinks it isn't is dumber. Anything trying to act like a "rule" that starts off by saying "well wait, just ignore the things that don't follow this even if they would apply otherwise" is just something to trick the gullible into believing something wrong.

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WBC_Injury
03/30/23 5:58:33 PM
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Never knew this was a thing. As someone who believes in God, I would not believe in this because if it were true than that means there would be evidence of His existence, meaning His entire plan was flawed. God cannot be flawed.

Creationists need to just admit evolution is real and stop underselling their understanding of God.
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Smallville
03/30/23 5:59:48 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
Never knew this was a thing. As someone who believes in God, I would not believe in this because if it were true than that means there would be evidence of His existence, meaning His entire plan was flawed. God cannot be flawed.

Creationists need to just admit evolution is real and stop underselling their understanding of God.
oh you see no conflict whatsoever with belief in evolution and belief in god?

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KainWind
03/30/23 5:59:51 PM
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ellis123 posted...
Anything trying to act like a "rule" that starts off by saying "well wait, just ignore the things that don't follow this even if they would apply otherwise" is just something to trick the gullible into believing something wrong.

I think you described the English language

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WBC_Injury
03/30/23 6:01:33 PM
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Smallville posted...
oh you see no conflict whatsoever with belief in evolution and belief in god?

There isn't a conflict. If we confine our understanding of God to, say, the Bible - then there is a conflict. But if we open our faith in there actually being an intelligent, omniscient presence that created our universe - there is nothing conflicting with the idea that evolution came as a result of the creation.

Evangelists want to claim their version of God is almighty and perfect, but limit His potential to the words of the bible. It's a contradiction to everything that has been understood since it was written. Clearly humans did not fully understand everything when it was written, perhaps even Jesus.
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Heineken14
03/30/23 6:03:43 PM
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Smallville posted...
iirc, the counterargument to evolution iirc. What do you think of it?


That like all creationist bullshit, it relies solely on "Come oooooon."

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ellis123
03/30/23 6:05:31 PM
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Smallville posted...
oh you see no conflict whatsoever with belief in evolution and belief in god?
Congrats, you found the SMAL alt.

KainWind posted...
I think you described the English language
And if you saw me ever defending elementary school English "rules" you would have a gotcha on your hands.

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Kakapo
03/30/23 6:06:04 PM
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Yeah, its silly shit

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WBC_Injury
03/30/23 6:06:21 PM
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Everyone keeps calling me SMAL yet I've posted more shit the past few days he would never have the ability to say ever without damaging his fragile ego.

For fuck's sake people stop being so damn toxic.
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ellis123
03/30/23 6:08:44 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
Everyone keeps calling me SMAL yet I've posted more shit the past few days he would never have the ability to say ever without damaging his fragile ego.

For fuck's sake people stop being so damn toxic.
Fine, which alt are you?

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WBC_Injury
03/30/23 6:09:25 PM
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ellis123 posted...
Fine, which alt are you?

This is my main. I also don't see why this is even important because I haven't even said anything inflammatory.
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Robot2600
03/30/23 6:10:46 PM
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it's fucking dumb.

just cause ur too dense to understand biology and chemistry doesnt mean everyone else is

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K181
03/30/23 6:11:39 PM
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Its an idiotic assertion that basically tries to make God responsible for things we dont understand yet.

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ellis123
03/30/23 6:11:48 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
This is my main. I also don't see why this is even important because I haven't even said anything inflammatory.
SMAL it is then, as anyone who even knows who SMAL is isn't new and anyone who is vehemently against others knowing their old account is perfectly substitutable for SMAL if they say all the same crap.

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WBC_Injury
03/30/23 6:14:21 PM
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ellis123 posted...
SMAL it is then, as anyone who even knows who SMAL is isn't new and anyone who is vehemently against others knowing their old account is perfectly substitutable for SMAL if they say all the same crap.

SMAL is a conservative shitposting chud. Stop comparing me to that idiot.
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Questionmarktarius
03/30/23 6:18:34 PM
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Smallville posted...
oh you see no conflict whatsoever with belief in evolution and belief in god?
Evolution is a process, not an origin.
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Tyranthraxus
03/30/23 6:21:15 PM
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Smallville posted...
oh you see no conflict whatsoever with belief in evolution and belief in god?

I don't believe in God, but if he existed I don't see why he couldn't also create evolution.

And sure while God could hypothetically just create humans, there's no evidence he did. While there is evidence of evolution.

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