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SomeGuyUO 03/29/23 2:42:16 PM #1:	Like that producer lady who got fired from Marvel. She's Argentine and 97% of Argentina is of white European ancestry. <cite>SomeGuyUO posted [p:972495622] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Like that producer lady who got fired from Marvel. She's Argentine and 97% of Argentina is of white European ancestry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catfan2008 03/29/23 2:44:51 PM #2:	What I've learned is in America race seems to be like playing ping pong on a spectrum of race and it's up to the ball to go where the left and right pull it --- Meow Meow I have dyslexia so please don't make fun of my writing. <cite>catfan2008 posted [p:972495668] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>What I've learned is in America race seems to be like playing ping pong on a spectrum of race and it's up to the ball to go where the left and right pull it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 03/29/23 2:45:21 PM #3:	Because the difference in whiteness rarely has to do with the color of someone's skin. The Irish weren't considered white for a long time, and one look at an Irishman will tell you how absurd that is. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:972495676] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Because the difference in whiteness rarely has to do with the color of someone's skin. The Irish weren't considered white for a long time, and one look at an Irishman will tell you how absurd that is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Big_Nabendu 03/29/23 2:45:26 PM #4:	https://youtu.be/YjemKIfZ6hE --- The embrace of the Dark is gentle. Let it absorb your sorrows, forever. \[T]/ Owner of the 500 board and Leader of sunbro board GT Nabendu <cite>Big_Nabendu posted [p:972495680] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/YjemKIfZ6hE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/29/23 2:45:40 PM #5:	"POC" https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/3/AAEhCpAAEVJF.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/4/AAEhCpAAEVJG.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/5/AAEhCpAAEVJH.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/6/AAEhCpAAEVJI.jpg Is that how this works? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:972495682] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>"POC"https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/3/AAEhCpAAEVJF.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/4/AAEhCpAAEVJG.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/5/AAEhCpAAEVJH.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/6/AAEhCpAAEVJI.jpg Is that how this works?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 03/29/23 2:48:49 PM #8:	Cause only a white person would want to be called a person of color. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:972495747] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Cause only a white person would want to be called a person of color. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 03/29/23 2:49:55 PM #10:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Are you trying to Thanos snap my people out of existence? --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:972495766] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Are you trying to Thanos snap my people out of existence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/29/23 2:50:06 PM #11:	ellis123 posted... Because the difference in whiteness rarely has to do with the color of someone's skin. The Irish weren't considered white for a long time, and one look at an Irishman will tell you how absurd that is. The Irish have always been considered white. That whole "the irish used to not be white" concept is a modern one made up by people trying to push the idea that "whiteness" is completely divorced from skin color: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/ The relevant scholarly literature seems to have started with Noel Ignatievs book How the Irish Became White, and taken off from there. But what the relevant authors mean by white is ahistorical. They are referring to a stylized, sociological or anthropological understanding of whiteness, which means either fully socially accepted as the equals of Americans of Anglo-Saxon and Germanic stock, or, in the more politicized version, an accepted part of the dominant ruling class in the United States. Those may be interesting sociological and anthropological angles to pursue, but it has nothing to do with whether the relevant groups were considered to be white. Here are some objective tests as to whether a group was historically considered white in the United States: Were members of the group allowed to go to whites-only schools in the South, or otherwise partake of the advantages that accrued to whites under Jim Crow? Were they ever segregated in schools by law, anywhere in the United States, such that whites went to one school, and the group in question was relegated to another? When laws banned interracial marriage in many states (not just in the South), if a white Anglo-Saxon wanted to marry a member of the group, would that have been against the law? Some labor unions restricted their membership to whites. Did such unions exclude members of the group in question? Were members of the group ever entirely excluded from being able to immigrate to the United States, or face special bans or restrictions in becoming citizens? If you use such objective tests, you find that Irish, Jews, Italians and other white ethnics were indeed considered white by law and by custom (as in the case of labor unions). Indeed, some lighter-skinned African Americans of mixed heritage passed as white by claiming they were of Arab descent and that explained their relative swarthiness, showing that Arab Americans, another group whose whiteness has been questioned, were considered white. By contrast, persons of African, Asian, Mexican and Native American descent faced various degrees of exclusion from public schools and labor unions, bans on marriage and direct restrictions on immigration and citizenship. You can also get a sense of who was thought to be white by considering whether Americans considered a particular marriage to be an interracial marriage; only 4 percent of Americans approved of interracial marriage as late as 1958. Yet Anglo-American whites were not ostracized by polite society for marrying Irish Americans or Italian Americans. Famous Jewish Hollywood stars such as George Burns not only married Gentiles, but openly partnered with them in their careers. We know that light-skinned Cubans were considered white at least as of 1950 because (despite the trepidations of the studio) the public accepted Lucy and Ricky, in a way they would never have accepted a black-white or Chinese-white couple. American Indians were considered non-white, but if they assimilated and married whites their children were generally accepted as part of white society. Did you know that Will Rogers was 9/32 Cherokee? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:972495773] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>Because the difference in whiteness rarely has to do with the color of someone's skin. The Irish weren't considered white for a long time, and one look at an Irishman will tell you how absurd that is.</quote>The Irish have always been considered white. That whole "the irish used to not be white" concept is a modern one made up by people trying to push the idea that "whiteness" is completely divorced from skin color:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/<quote>The relevant scholarly literature seems to have started with Noel Ignatievs book How the Irish Became White, and taken off from there. But what the relevant authors mean by white is ahistorical. They are referring to a stylized, sociological or anthropological understanding of whiteness, which means either fully socially accepted as the equals of Americans of Anglo-Saxon and Germanic stock, or, in the more politicized version, an accepted part of the dominant ruling class in the United States.Those may be interesting sociological and anthropological angles to pursue, but it has nothing to do with whether the relevant groups were considered to be white.Here are some objective tests as to whether a group was historically considered white in the United States: Were members of the group allowed to go to whites-only schools in the South, or otherwise partake of the advantages that accrued to whites under Jim Crow? Were they ever segregated in schools by law, anywhere in the United States, such that whites went to one school, and the group in question was relegated to another? When laws banned interracial marriage in many states (not just in the South), if a white Anglo-Saxon wanted to marry a member of the group, would that have been against the law? Some labor unions restricted their membership to whites. Did such unions exclude members of the group in question? Were members of the group ever entirely excluded from being able to immigrate to the United States, or face special bans or restrictions in becoming citizens?If you use such objective tests, you find that Irish, Jews, Italians and other white ethnics were indeed considered white by law and by custom (as in the case of labor unions). Indeed, some lighter-skinned African Americans of mixed heritage passed as white by claiming they were of Arab descent and that explained their relative swarthiness, showing that Arab Americans, another group whose whiteness has been questioned, were considered white. By contrast, persons of African, Asian, Mexican and Native American descent faced various degrees of exclusion from public schools and labor unions, bans on marriage and direct restrictions on immigration and citizenship.You can also get a sense of who was thought to be white by considering whether Americans considered a particular marriage to be an interracial marriage; only 4 percent of Americans approved of interracial marriage as late as 1958. Yet Anglo-American whites were not ostracized by polite society for marrying Irish Americans or Italian Americans. Famous Jewish Hollywood stars such as George Burns not only married Gentiles, but openly partnered with them in their careers. We know that light-skinned Cubans were considered white at least as of 1950 because (despite the trepidations of the studio) the public accepted Lucy and Ricky, in a way they would never have accepted a black-white or Chinese-white couple. American Indians were considered non-white, but if they assimilated and married whites their children were generally accepted as part of white society. Did you know that Will Rogers was 9/32 Cherokee?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 03/29/23 2:52:48 PM #12:	Because USA have always loved to pull the "you people are not our white superior race" card. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:972495830] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Because USA have always loved to pull the "you people are not our white superior race" card.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 03/29/23 2:53:58 PM #13:	Just call people their name --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:972495856] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Just call people their name</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 03/29/23 3:05:31 PM #15:	s0nicfan posted... The Irish have always been considered white. That whole "the irish used to not be white" concept is a modern one made up by people trying to push the idea that "whiteness" is completely divorced from skin color: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/ It just goes to show the long standing effects of slavery. That by having someone say "the Irish were not white prior to slavery" someone can go "Oh ho! That's where you're wrong! If you see during the times where slavery was a thing in America they obviously were counted as white!" and think that they somehow made an actual smart point. As if the original source's entire point was that it was something that existed mostly prior to America being a thing in the first place. I'll go with the hundreds of history books/scholarly journals/etc. talking about the oppression of the Irish over a WaPo article. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:972496075] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>The Irish have always been considered white. That whole "the irish used to not be white" concept is a modern one made up by people trying to push the idea that "whiteness" is completely divorced from skin color:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/</quote>It just goes to show the long standing effects of slavery. That by having someone say "the Irish were not white prior to slavery" someone can go "Oh ho! That's where you're wrong! If you see during the times where slavery was a thing in America they obviously were counted as white!" and think that they somehow made an actual smart point. As if the original source's entire point was that it was something that existed mostly prior to America being a thing in the first place.I'll go with the hundreds of history books/scholarly journals/etc. talking about the oppression of the Irish over a WaPo article.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 03/29/23 3:06:06 PM #16:	White slave owners were threatened by the idea of Irish and Black workers banding together, so they tried to be more inclusive towards the former in order to separate them. This is a tactic that the rich continue to use against us in order to maintain power. <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:972496084] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>White slave owners were threatened by the idea of Irish and Black workers banding together, so they tried to be more inclusive towards the former in order to separate them. This is a tactic that the rich continue to use against us in order to maintain power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 03/29/23 3:07:40 PM #17:	ellis123 posted... Because the difference in whiteness rarely has to do with the color of someone's skin. The Irish weren't considered white for a long time, and one look at an Irishman will tell you how absurd that is. hmm, im irish i wouldnt be offended not being a real white idc really europe, and lots of other subcontinent regions like india are more diverse then we think <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:972496124] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>Because the difference in whiteness rarely has to do with the color of someone's skin. The Irish weren't considered white for a long time, and one look at an Irishman will tell you how absurd that is.</quote>hmm, im irish i wouldnt be offended not being a real white idc reallyeurope, and lots of other subcontinent regions like india are more diverse then we think</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Priere 03/29/23 3:09:07 PM #18:	Sounds like a thing that some septum pierced, neon haired, college kids agreed upon to make themselves feel more comfy. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif <cite>Priere posted [p:972496157] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a thing that some septum pierced, neon haired, college kids agreed upon to make themselves feel more comfy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 03/29/23 3:10:01 PM #19:	SomeGuyUO posted... Like that producer lady who got fired from Marvel. She's Argentine and 97% of Argentina is of white European ancestry. There is no "official" limit for white-latin-ness. It's not like people walk around with 23andme results. Where do you draw the line? Is Pedro Pascal a "white latino"? What about Oscar Isaac? Benicio del Toro? Some people will say yes, some people will say no. Then others are obviously white (e.g. Saul Alvarez, the redhead pale boxer). --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972496176] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>SomeGuyUO posted... </cite><quote>Like that producer lady who got fired from Marvel. She's Argentine and 97% of Argentina is of white European ancestry.</quote>There is no "official" limit for white-latin-ness. It's not like people walk around with 23andme results.Where do you draw the line? Is Pedro Pascal a "white latino"? What about Oscar Isaac? Benicio del Toro?Some people will say yes, some people will say no. Then others are obviously white (e.g. Saul Alvarez, the redhead pale boxer).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 03/29/23 3:11:16 PM #20:	UndefeatedGOAT posted... hmm, im irish i wouldnt be offended not being a real white idc really europe, and lots of other subcontinent regions like india are more diverse then we think Okay? If you're Irish, hopefully you've met a single other person around you that could explain why the Irish aren't big fans of the English. I'm not talking about someone running up to you on the street before pointing and guffawing about how you aren't actually white, or some random nonsense. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:972496198] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>UndefeatedGOAT posted... </cite><quote>hmm, im irish i wouldnt be offended not being a real white idc reallyeurope, and lots of other subcontinent regions like india are more diverse then we think</quote>Okay? If you're Irish, hopefully you've met a single other person around you that could explain why the Irish aren't big fans of the English. I'm not talking about someone running up to you on the street before pointing and guffawing about how you aren't actually white, or some random nonsense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 03/29/23 3:14:25 PM #21:	Foppe posted... Because USA have always loved to pull the "you people are not our white superior race" card. this too. Your skin can be the color of a piece of paper, but if you have a bit of an accent or have the "wrong" last name you still won't be white to cops, GOP politicians, etc. --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972496266] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Because USA have always loved to pull the "you people are not our white superior race" card.</quote>this too.Your skin can be the color of a piece of paper, but if you have a bit of an accent or have the "wrong" last name you still won't be white to cops, GOP politicians, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 03/29/23 3:16:41 PM #23:	s0nicfan posted... The Irish have always been considered white. That whole "the irish used to not be white" concept is a modern one made up by people trying to push the idea that "whiteness" is completely divorced from skin color: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/ Not true Go tell a hate group that jews are white, see how that goes lol. This is tremendously stupid. Ever heard of "NINA" signs? Ever seen how the US census classified italians and irish for immigration quotas? --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972496310] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>The Irish have always been considered white. That whole "the irish used to not be white" concept is a modern one made up by people trying to push the idea that "whiteness" is completely divorced from skin color:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/</quote>Not trueGo tell a hate group that jews are white, see how that goes lol. This is tremendously stupid. Ever heard of "NINA" signs? Ever seen how the US census classified italians and irish for immigration quotas?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_shibe 03/29/23 3:22:14 PM #26:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yes! and even worse, the president (I forgot which one) actually hand waved a lynching of some italians because they were italians. They used to be represented in political cartoons as fat, dark and with a mario-like mustache, it was amazingly offensive. Sonic has no idea of what he is saying --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972496444] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yes! and even worse, the president (I forgot which one) actually hand waved a lynching of some italians because they were italians. They used to be represented in political cartoons as fat, dark and with a mario-like mustache, it was amazingly offensive.Sonic has no idea of what he is saying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cuticrusader09 03/29/23 3:35:23 PM #27:	What about anti-Slavic sentiment? Think about all those dumb Polack jokes. I heard them growing up and they fucking pissed me off. Its like if whites dont have a different race to make fun of they turn on someone who isnt the right kind of white. <cite>Cuticrusader09 posted [p:972496707] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>What about anti-Slavic sentiment? Think about all those dumb Polack jokes. I heard them growing up and they fucking pissed me off. Its like if whites dont have a different race to make fun of they turn on someone who isnt the right kind of white.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whateveroh 03/29/23 3:37:34 PM #28:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/8/8/AAJmR2AADTpI.jpg --- Fighting evil since 2004. <cite>whateveroh posted [p:972496740] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/8/8/AAJmR2AADTpI.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SgtBash 03/29/23 3:39:48 PM #29:	Questionmarktarius posted... "POC" https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/3/AAEhCpAAEVJF.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/4/AAEhCpAAEVJG.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/5/AAEhCpAAEVJH.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/6/AAEhCpAAEVJI.jpg Is that how this works? Carlos Estevez, his brother Emilio, Cameron Diaz & Jerry Garcia --- Come to Relax https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1558-relaxation-island <cite>SgtBash posted [p:972496786] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite><quote>"POC"https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/3/AAEhCpAAEVJF.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/4/AAEhCpAAEVJG.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/5/AAEhCpAAEVJH.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/6/AAEhCpAAEVJI.jpg Is that how this works?</quote>Carlos Estevez, his brother Emilio, Cameron Diaz & Jerry Garcia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 03/29/23 4:06:26 PM #30:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Bro. If you want us all to leave, just tell me. We don't wanna stay where we're not welcome. Have fun with taco bell sand tacos being your only option. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:972497410] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Bro. If you want us all to leave, just tell me. We don't wanna stay where we're not welcome. Have fun with taco bell sand tacos being your only option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 03/29/23 4:08:18 PM #31:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Bro. If you want us all to leave, just tell me. We don't wanna stay where we're not welcome. Have fun with taco bell sand tacos being your only option. Nah, we want u here :) send the bigots somewhere else instead --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972497444] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite><quote>Bro. If you want us all to leave, just tell me. We don't wanna stay where we're not welcome. Have fun with taco bell sand tacos being your only option.</quote>Nah, we want u here :)send the bigots somewhere else instead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 03/29/23 4:16:47 PM #33:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Im as serious as a theater kid doing an interpretation of someone having a heart attack. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:972497634] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Im as serious as a theater kid doing an interpretation of someone having a heart attack. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 03/29/23 4:20:55 PM #34:	is vegy a white latino? --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972497732] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>is vegy a white latino?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 03/29/23 4:32:07 PM #36:	ellis123 posted... Okay? If you're Irish, hopefully you've met a single other person around you that could explain why the Irish aren't big fans of the English. I'm not talking about someone running up to you on the street before pointing and guffawing about how you aren't actually white, or some random nonsense. im not following you, i mean im ethnically irish (if thats even a thing) but im canadian, idc about ireland losing some conflict to england <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:972497945] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>Okay? If you're Irish, hopefully you've met a single other person around you that could explain why the Irish aren't big fans of the English. I'm not talking about someone running up to you on the street before pointing and guffawing about how you aren't actually white, or some random nonsense.</quote>im not following you, i mean im ethnically irish (if thats even a thing) but im canadian, idc about ireland losing some conflict to england</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DipDipDiver 03/29/23 4:42:09 PM #37:	The simple answer is that "person of color" is not intended to be a literal term where they hold your skin up to a bunch of swatches like Peter Griffin <cite>DipDipDiver posted [p:972498142] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>The simple answer is that "person of color" is not intended to be a literal term where they hold your skin up to a bunch of swatches like Peter Griffin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 03/29/23 5:38:57 PM #38:	Youre writing down the word simple, but in practice thats no really very simple. some people will say pedro pascal isnt white, and Mediterranean people will usually be called white, or self identify as such its simple thats its a vague label a lot of the time <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:972499284] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Youre writing down the word simple, but in practice thats no really very simple.some people will say pedro pascal isnt white, and Mediterranean people will usually be called white, or self identify as suchits simple thats its a vague label a lot of the time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 03/29/23 6:22:29 PM #39:	UndefeatedGOAT posted... Youre writing down the word simple, but in practice thats no really very simple. some people will say pedro pascal isnt white, and Mediterranean people will usually be called white, or self identify as such its simple thats its a vague label a lot of the time it's all stupid. If you're a french man, and your family moved to the US in 1970, your kids are white. But if you moved instead to Mexico (there's a record of a lot french people moving to certain states in mexico) you'd be considered "no bueno, not white" by the MAGA crowd. How does that work? --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972500229] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>UndefeatedGOAT posted... </cite><quote>Youre writing down the word simple, but in practice thats no really very simple.some people will say pedro pascal isnt white, and Mediterranean people will usually be called white, or self identify as suchits simple thats its a vague label a lot of the time</quote>it's all stupid. If you're a french man, and your family moved to the US in 1970, your kids are white. But if you moved instead to Mexico (there's a record of a lot french people moving to certain states in mexico) you'd be considered "no bueno, not white" by the MAGA crowd. How does that work?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 03/29/23 6:29:46 PM #40:	The_shibe posted... it's all stupid. If you're a french man, and your family moved to the US in 1970, your kids are white. But if you moved instead to Mexico (there's a record of a lot french people moving to certain states in mexico) you'd be considered "no bueno, not white" by the MAGA crowd. How does that work? if this has to be a partisan thing im not really discussing it any further, sure there a people gatekeeping white, and thats bad, I wouldnt have anything further to say about it than that ex canelo is a very famous mexican, i imagine some people might say hes not white, but theyre wrong. <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:972500350] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>it's all stupid. If you're a french man, and your family moved to the US in 1970, your kids are white. But if you moved instead to Mexico (there's a record of a lot french people moving to certain states in mexico) you'd be considered "no bueno, not white" by the MAGA crowd. How does that work?</quote>if this has to be a partisan thing im not really discussing it any further, sure there a people gatekeeping white, and thats bad, I wouldnt have anything further to say about it than thatexcanelo is a very famous mexican, i imagine some people might say hes not white, but theyre wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_shibe 03/29/23 8:13:54 PM #42:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] We fall back into what is "looking white"? Pedro Pascal? oscar Isaac? Venicio del todo? --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972502571] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> We fall back into what is "looking white"?Pedro Pascal? oscar Isaac? Venicio del todo?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 03/29/23 10:14:00 PM #43:	The_shibe posted... We fall back into what is "looking white"? Pedro Pascal? oscar Isaac? Venicio del todo? dolph lundgren would land on the spectrum somewhere <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:972505007] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>We fall back into what is "looking white"?Pedro Pascal? oscar Isaac? Venicio del todo?</quote>dolph lundgren would land on the spectrum somewhere</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 03/29/23 10:20:47 PM #44:	Hispanic/Latino is more of culture/ethnic group, a culture that was seen as foreign/different and had their own communities which made white America look down on them. Similar to how Jews are a culture group that was seen as different and got similar treatment. So they've had their share of adversity, even today, which probably why even the white Latinos get lumped into "people of color". I dunno, just an idea. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:972505143] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Hispanic/Latino is more of culture/ethnic group, a culture that was seen as foreign/different and had their own communities which made white America look down on them. Similar to how Jews are a culture group that was seen as different and got similar treatment. So they've had their share of adversity, even today, which probably why even the white Latinos get lumped into "people of color". I dunno, just an idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 03/29/23 10:27:24 PM #45:	UndefeatedGOAT posted... dolph lundgren would land on the spectrum somewhere the spectrum is from Jason Mantzoukas to Alexander Skarsgard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/0/AAZaD9AAEVOC.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/1/AAZaD9AAEVOD.jpg --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:972505260] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>UndefeatedGOAT posted... </cite><quote>dolph lundgren would land on the spectrum somewhere</quote>the spectrum is from Jason Mantzoukas to Alexander Skarsgardhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/0/AAZaD9AAEVOC.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/1/AAZaD9AAEVOD.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 03/29/23 10:38:56 PM #46:	Ivynn posted... the spectrum is from Jason Mantzoukas to Alexander Skarsgard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/0/AAZaD9AAEVOC.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/1/AAZaD9AAEVOD.jpg Lol, where does rachel dolezal fall? <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:972505478] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>the spectrum is from Jason Mantzoukas to Alexander Skarsgardhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/0/AAZaD9AAEVOC.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/1/AAZaD9AAEVOD.jpg</quote>Lol, where does rachel dolezal fall?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HannibalBarca3 03/29/23 11:09:31 PM #48:	Whiteness is complicated. There's people from East Asia who are whiter than people from Southern Europe, yet one isn't considered white and the other is, or at least, should unless you're some fringe white nationalist group. What about people from the Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia, etc. who appear white? Modern race construct is strongly tied to physical appearance but that wasn't always the only case and perception could be more fluid. There's a quote by Benjamin Franklin decrying various European people as not white but as "swarthy": Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and *Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans* also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Compexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind. " There's some really interesting threads on the perception of race in the 20th century in AskHistorians: Whiteness in the US in general: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/qtpj6g/is_the_idea_that_the_irish_or_italian_were_once/ Finnish as Asians: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/10fwxiy/my_american_friends_greatgrandfather_was_finnish/ --- Aut viam inveniam aut faciam. Will not change sig until the Tsar is put back in the Russian throne (July 08, 2010) <cite>HannibalBarca3 posted [p:972506069] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Whiteness is complicated. There's people from East Asia who are whiter than people from Southern Europe, yet one isn't considered white and the other is, or at least, should unless you're some fringe white nationalist group. What about people from the Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia, etc. who appear white? Modern race construct is strongly tied to physical appearance but that wasn't always the only case and perception could be more fluid. There's a quote by Benjamin Franklin decrying various European people as not white but as "swarthy":<quote>Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Compexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind. "</quote> There's some really interesting threads on the perception of race in the 20th century in AskHistorians:Whiteness in the US in general:https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/qtpj6g/is_the_idea_that_the_irish_or_italian_were_once/Finnish as Asians:https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/10fwxiy/my_american_friends_greatgrandfather_was_finnish/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToteAll 03/29/23 11:15:21 PM #49:	The_shibe posted... Venicio del todo? Who the fuck is that lol <cite>ToteAll posted [p:972506188] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>Venicio del todo?</quote>Who the fuck is that lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 03/29/23 11:19:49 PM #50:	whiteness is an extremely fluid concept that varies according to, among many other factors, location. that is; someone who's considered white in (arbitrary example here) Mexico will not necessarily be considered white elsewhere --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html <cite>averagejoel posted [p:972506285] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>whiteness is an extremely fluid concept that varies according to, among many other factors, location. that is; someone who's considered white in (arbitrary example here) Mexico will not necessarily be considered white elsewhere</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 03/29/23 11:47:47 PM #51:	Ivynn posted... the spectrum is from Jason Mantzoukas to Alexander Skarsgard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/0/AAZaD9AAEVOC.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/1/AAZaD9AAEVOD.jpg not necessarily. These 2 racist fucks promote white supremacism (and are considered "white") but they look quite dark to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_Jr.#/media/File:Donald_Trump,_Jr._(51770696331)_(cropped).jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Boebert#/media/File:Lauren_Boebert_(50764628846).jpg --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972506718] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>the spectrum is from Jason Mantzoukas to Alexander Skarsgardhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/0/AAZaD9AAEVOC.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/1/AAZaD9AAEVOD.jpg</quote>not necessarily. These 2 racist fucks promote white supremacism (and are considered "white") but they look quite dark to me:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_Jr.#/media/File:Donald_Trump,_Jr._(51770696331)_(cropped).jpghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Boebert#/media/File:Lauren_Boebert_(50764628846).jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 03/29/23 11:49:57 PM #52:	HannibalBarca3 posted... Whiteness is complicated. There's people from East Asia who are whiter than people from Southern Europe, yet one isn't considered white and the other is, or at least, should unless you're some fringe white nationalist group. What about people from the Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia, etc. who appear white? Modern race construct is strongly tied to physical appearance but that wasn't always the only case and perception could be more fluid. There's a quote by Benjamin Franklin decrying various European people as not white but as "swarthy": There's some really interesting threads on the perception of race in the 20th century in AskHistorians: Whiteness in the US in general: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/qtpj6g/is_the_idea_that_the_irish_or_italian_were_once/ Finnish as Asians: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/10fwxiy/my_american_friends_greatgrandfather_was_finnish/ now this is an informed historial post, and not the stuff sonic was posting ITT. ToteAll posted... Who the fuck is that lol Autocorrect changed the name for me. English autocorrect. I am an English speaker. I am 100% sure you know who I meant and are just being an ass because the name is misspelled, based on the tag I've given you in the past. --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:972506754] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>HannibalBarca3 posted... </cite><quote>Whiteness is complicated. There's people from East Asia who are whiter than people from Southern Europe, yet one isn't considered white and the other is, or at least, should unless you're some fringe white nationalist group. What about people from the Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia, etc. who appear white? Modern race construct is strongly tied to physical appearance but that wasn't always the only case and perception could be more fluid. There's a quote by Benjamin Franklin decrying various European people as not white but as "swarthy":There's some really interesting threads on the perception of race in the 20th century in AskHistorians:Whiteness in the US in general:https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/qtpj6g/is_the_idea_that_the_irish_or_italian_were_once/Finnish as Asians:https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/10fwxiy/my_american_friends_greatgrandfather_was_finnish/</quote>now this is an informed historial post, and not the stuff sonic was posting ITT.ToteAll posted... </cite><quote>Who the fuck is that lol</quote>Autocorrect changed the name for me. English autocorrect. I am an English speaker. I am 100% sure you know who I meant and are just being an ass because the name is misspelled, based on the tag I've given you in the past.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 03/30/23 12:10:02 AM #53:	SomeGuyUO posted... Like that producer lady who got fired from Marvel. She's Argentine and 97% of Argentina is of white European ancestry. Dunno about her opinions but Argentinians are generally known to brag about being closer to Europeans than the rest of Latin America. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:972507042] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>SomeGuyUO posted... </cite><quote>Like that producer lady who got fired from Marvel. She's Argentine and 97% of Argentina is of white European ancestry.</quote>Dunno about her opinions but Argentinians are generally known to brag about being closer to Europeans than the rest of Latin America. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 03/30/23 12:17:20 AM #54:	Because I'm latino (ecuadorian) and I have indigenous features and brown skin? Were a diverse ethnicity. Not a race --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:972507131] in why are wh... [t:80395359]...</cite> <quote>Because I'm latino (ecuadorian) and I have indigenous features and brown skin? Were a diverse ethnicity. Not a race</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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