Current Events > Transgender cyclist wins NYC women's race

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https://nypost.com/2023/03/23/transgender-cyclist-wins-nyc-womens-race/

A transgender cyclist proudly said she felt like a superhero while winning her latest womens race in New York just days after a former champ quit the sport in anger at losing to another trans rider. Tiffany Thomas, 47, was photographed with her arms aloft in victory at the top of the podium at the Randalls Island Crit on Saturday at least her 20th win since she started racing in 2018, while already in her 40s. The NYC-based biologist posted photos of herself in full flight from the race while wearing the bright orange team kit of her team sponsor, LA Sweat. Im not going to lie, sometimes it made me feel like a superhero when I wore it, she said alongside one image of her fully focused in the NYC race. Playing bikes with friends is what this sport is all about, the self-styled fancier of fitness wrote alongside another. Thomas who also regularly posts pics of her weightlifting received love and support in response to her messages, with one person writing: You are a superhero and one of the smartest scientists I know!!

However, her win soon started a severe backlash with an NYC cycling outlet that posted her podium pics disabling the flood of angry comments. One critic said they feel so bad for woman athletes in America that have trained their entire lives to lose out to transgender athletes who some experts say carry a genetic advantage even after hormone therapy. We are destroying womans rights in America, the anonymous critic tweeted. Thomas win came just days after champion cyclocross rider Hannah Arensman confirmed she was quitting in anger over the issue. I have decided to end my cycling career, she said last Wednesday in a statement included in a Supreme Court filing over the issue. She said in her last race, in the elite womens division of the UCI Cyclocross National Championships in late December, she came in 4th place, flanked on either side by male riders awarded 3rd and 5th places. My sister and family sobbed as they watched a man finish in front of me, having witnessed several physical interactions with him throughout the race, she wrote, in a statement also shared by the Independent Council on Womens Sports (ICONS). Additionally, it is difficult for me to think about the very real possibility I was overlooked for an international selection on the US team at Cyclocross Worlds in February 2023 because of a male competitor. She said that it has become increasingly discouraging to train as hard as I do only to have to lose to a man with the unfair advantage of an androgenized body that intrinsically gives him an obvious advantage over me, no matter how hard I train.

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Good for her. What an amazing win by her.

Interesting

Can't wait to hear from all the chuds who suddenly care about women's cycling

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Ive never really cared about womens sports and transgender people winning is not gonna change that. You cant make me!!!

What were the times?

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Also doesn't look like 2nd and 3rd place is all mad either.

woman wins bike race.

that's it. that's the headline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gQOYAp1-oU

Yay

Shocking

Love reading the tears of the professional victims in the article. Grats to the cyclist :)

She looks so happy

TMOG posted...

Can't wait to hear from all the chuds who suddenly care about women's cycling

looks like the article addressed that

Found her on Road Results. I'd post the webpage but I don't know if that's moddable or not.

It's missing her results from 2023 but this lady doesn't seem like she's a dominant racer at all, most of her finishes are somewhere between 10th-18th place. Seems like she did good for this one race and now she's all over the internet because now she fits a narrative.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Found her on Road Results. I'd post the webpage but I don't know if that's moddable or not.

It's missing her results from 2023 but this lady doesn't seem like she's a dominant racer at all, most of her finishes are somewhere between 10th-18th place. Seems like she did good for this one race and now she's all over the internet because now she fits a narrative.

This is the case for the vast majority of these stories tbqh

I'm not a woman, so I'm gonna take the less self-absorbed route and not have a spite take here.

the biggot in the OP article even misgenders her competition. so petty and small. and ignorant; "androgenized" bodies or w/e don't produce an advantage, as numerous recent studies make clear.

iPhone_7 posted...

Ive never really cared about womens sports and transgender people winning is not gonna change that. You cant make me!!!

If you don't care, Im free to try to convince people you're on whatever side I feel like until you're forced to defend yourself with an uneducated opinion. Then Ill judge you for not being more educated.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Found her on Road Results. I'd post the webpage but I don't know if that's moddable or not.

It's missing her results from 2023 but this lady doesn't seem like she's a dominant racer at all, most of her finishes are somewhere between 10th-18th place. Seems like she did good for this one race and now she's all over the internet because now she fits a narrative.

so standard sports thing where some one just has the best race of their life

but naturally conservatives will suddenly be very invested in womans cycling a thing i did not even know was seperated by gender

Because born men can transition to womanhood and still compete against born women, maybe it's just time to open sports to all. Don't segregate. Just spitballin'

Good for her.

Fucking resplendent

SrRd_RacinG posted...

Because born men can transition to womanhood and still compete against born women, maybe it's just time to open sports to all. Don't segregate. Just spitballin'

But here's the thing though, she isn't competetive at all. You wouldn't feel this strongly when you look at her average races where she's coming in 11th place, you're only looking at this one race where she did well enough to win and assume there's a point to be made when there really isn't.

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So data is showing they are in like...a middle ground?

What was her record before transition amongst men?

Sure she could have normally place 10-18th in the women race, but if before transition she was placing like 50th amongst male competitors that would seem like a notable difference IMO.

Nice

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

What was her record before transition amongst men?

Sure she could have normally place 10-18th in the women race, but if before transition she was placing like 50th amongst male competitors that would seem like a notable difference IMO.

It doesn't fucking matter

A_Good_Boy posted...

But here's the thing though, she isn't competetive at all. You wouldn't feel this strongly when you look at her average races where she's coming in 11th place, you're only looking at this one race where she did well enough to win and assume there's a point to be made when there really isn't.

11th place is nothing to scuff at, unless there's like a handful of riders.

WBC_Injury posted...

11th place is nothing to scuff at, unless there's like a handful of riders.

There were only 8!

Jk

KarsaToblakai posted...

It doesn't fucking matter

Just so he can understand, why?

SrRd_RacinG posted...

So data is showing they are in like...a middle ground?

The data's showing that trans women are women

KarsaToblakai posted...

It doesn't fucking matter

How so?
Doesnt matter to us because we arent the ones competing i guess.

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

What was her record before transition amongst men?

Sure she could have normally place 10-18th in the women race, but if before transition she was placing like 50th amongst male competitors that would seem like a notable difference IMO.

She's still not "utterly dominating due to an unfair physical advantage" like is trying to be spun by the right, so that's all that matters.

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

How so?
Doesnt matter to us because we arent the ones competing i guess.

Then why are you so bothered by it that you're going to imply that she only transitioned to gain a competitive edge

Do you think we're all too dumb to see what you're doing

Well if the other women are fine with it then what's the problem?

Even if the other competitors are complaining, it's not my problem anyway.

TMOG posted...

Then why are you so bothered by it that you're going to imply that she only transitioned to gain a competitive edge

Do you think we're all too dumb to see what you're doing

Uneducated people don't think you're dumb, they think they're smart and try to approach people as equals

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

What was her record before transition amongst men?

Sure she could have normally place 10-18th in the women race, but if before transition she was placing like 50th amongst male competitors that would seem like a notable difference IMO.

Her record suggests she's only been racing against women since 2017. So unless she's been racing as anything but Tiffany Thomas then I have nothing else to go off of. The results for the Randall Crit for 2023, or any other race for 2023 aren't on her page yet but the last time she performed in this race was in 2021. In that race she came in 31/32 and then she raced in another heat 2 weeks later for this race and came in 27/30. It seems her best years were in-between 2017 and 2019, but her performance since then has been pretty shitty, so good for her for finally winning a race after 4 years of trying.

TMOG posted...

Then why are you so bothered by it that you're going to imply that she only transitioned to gain a competitive edge

Do you think we're all too dumb to see what you're doing

Im genuinely curious. And i wasn't implying anything and if it sounded like i was sorry.

I couldn't care less about a random bike race but since this topic was up, i figure to get as much info as possible

A_Good_Boy posted...

Her record suggests she's only been racing against women since 2017. So unless she's been racing as anything but Tiffany Thomas then I have nothing else to go off of. The results for the Randall Crit for 2023, or any other race for 2023 aren't on her page yet but the last time she performed in this race was in 2021. In that race she came in 31/32 and then she raced in another heat 2 weeks later for this race and came in 27/30. It seems her best year were in 2017 and 2019, but her performance since then has been pretty shitty, so good for her for finally winning a race after 4 years of trying.

Thanks!
And yeah sounded like she worked for this victory and well deserved. They weren't complaining all this time when she wasn't winning for the past 5 years.

SrRd_RacinG posted...

Just spitballin'

Maybe spitball somewhere else so you're not being disgusting.

CyricZ posted...

Maybe spitball somewhere else so you're not being disgusting.

I think it could be the future. We may be dead but I can envision a pan gender/sex sporting system.

CyricZ posted...

Maybe spitball somewhere else so you're not being disgusting.

Whats wrong with opening up sports to all sexes / genders? Surely thats the dream right? A world with no barriers at all.