Current Events > Florida bill is so anti-trans, it could ban Breast Cancer treatment

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wackyteen
03/23/23 1:58:38 PM
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https://newrepublic.com/post/171330/florida-gop-anti-trans-bill-extreme-ban-treatment-breast-cancer

A Florida House of Representatives committee on Wednesday advanced an anti-trans bill that is so broad and so extreme that it could also prevent people from getting treated for breast cancer.
The bill passed the Healthcare Regulation Committee by a vote of 125 and now heads to the House for a vote. The measure is one of the cruelest in the country to target transgender and LGBTQ rights and care. It bans gender-affirming care for minors and would force them to medically detransition, or stop receiving treatments such as hormone therapy. But the bills vague wording has larger repercussions as well.
The text defines gender clinical interventions as procedures or therapies that alter internal or external physical traits, including surgeries that change primary or secondary sexual characteristics. During the debate, Democratic Representative Christine Hunschofsky pointed out that this could prevent people from getting treatment for breast cancer, as the overly broad language could apply to mastectomies.
Bill sponsor Randy Finewho prior to being a Republican representative was a gambling industry executive, not a doctorwas surprised to learn that young people can get breast cancer.
By the same definition, people who need prostatectomies to treat prostate cancer could also be denied treatment. The bill also bans hormone treatments, which could potentially affect care for menopause, stunted growth, and birth control.
Republicans across the country have introduced bills targeting gender-affirming care, insisting that by doing so, they are protecting children. But the Florida bill goes a step further and says the quiet part out loud: It targets care for trans adults too. The bill bans health insurance policies from covering gender-affirming care, which would prevent adults from accessing treatment. It also prohibits anyone from changing the gender on their birth certificate to reflect their identity.
As civil rights attorney Alejandra Caraballo pointed out, the measure could also dissuade medical providers from providing care to anyone because they could face felony charges and risk losing their license to practice. Anyone who gets a procedure that inadvertently alters a primary or secondary sexual characteristic can sue their care provider for malpractice for up to 30 years after.
Bills such as the latest Florida measure make it clear that Republicans dont really want to protect children; they want to erase LGBTQ people from public life. Gender-affirming care decreases the amount of depression and anxiety that trans and nonbinary teenagers feel, and it makes them less likely to consider suicide. Instead, lawmakers are criminalizing LGBTQ people of all ages and putting them at risk of real harm.

Florida gonna ban every job in the fucking state just to stop a tiny minority of the population from existing.

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A_Good_Boy
03/23/23 2:04:17 PM
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wackyteen posted...
procedures or therapies that alter internal or external physical traits, including surgeries that change primary or secondary sexual characteristics.
So no more breast enlargements, breast reductions, vasectomies, mastectomies, or prostate cancer treatments can be done in Florida?

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Gwynevere
03/23/23 2:05:22 PM
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This is one of the only ways I can see this blowing up in the faces of Republicans in these states. Trans people make up a very tiny percentage of the people receiving the type of care they're trying to ban. Eventually they'll reach too far and touch the bottom line of some companies in the medical/Pharmaceutical industry

Basically this is only going to stop once people much more important than your average voter get affected

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ROBANN_88
03/23/23 2:06:31 PM
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it says "including sexual characteristics", not "limited to"
so in theory banning "therapy that alter internal or external physical traits" just banned pretty much every single medicine in existance

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Hambo
03/23/23 2:13:41 PM
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Why do they fucking care so much what other people want to do to their own bodies? Fuck all this anti-trans bullshit.

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ANort175
03/23/23 2:15:07 PM
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Hambo posted...
Why do they fucking care so much what other people want to do to their own bodies? Fuck all this anti-trans bullshit.
They realized people were catching on to their racist dog whistles so they moved on to a different boogeyman to distract their voters from how completely shitty their policies are.

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I4NRulez
03/23/23 2:16:24 PM
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What % of people in florida are even trans? It cant be anymore than 1-2 percent if that. Its like lighting your house on fire because you see one spider.

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gmanthebest
03/23/23 2:16:55 PM
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Imagine being so interested in what's in someone's pants that you fuck up THIS bad

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Alucard188
03/23/23 2:23:35 PM
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Let me guess - it encompasses mastectomies as being gender-affirming care. Oy vey.

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Questionmarktarius
03/23/23 2:24:26 PM
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All the retirees will revolt if this makes viagra illegal.
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hockeybub89
03/23/23 2:24:42 PM
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Motherfuckers just banned surgery

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wackyteen
03/23/23 3:00:27 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Let me guess - it encompasses mastectomies as being gender-affirming care. Oy vey.
watch, OBGYNs are now gender-affirming.

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Prestoff
03/23/23 3:00:36 PM
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Yeah the wording on this bill is way too vague, especially for something very specific and life threatning like surgery. This bill is a nightmare.

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ThePieReborn
03/23/23 3:04:58 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Yeah the wording on this bill is way too vague, especially for something very specific and life threatning like surgery. This bill is a nightmare.
Almost like it was written by malicious idiots.

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Hambo
03/23/23 3:09:51 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
Almost like it was written by malicious idiots.
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refmon
03/23/23 3:15:36 PM
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I wonder what the tipping point for republicans in florida will be

what do they even care about?

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CyricZ
03/23/23 3:22:04 PM
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the measure could also dissuade medical providers from providing care to anyone because they could face felony charges and risk losing their license to practice. Anyone who gets a procedure that inadvertently alters a primary or secondary sexual characteristic can sue their care provider for malpractice for up to 30 years after.
It's bolded in the OP, but it's really important to underline that this "30 years after" thing is just going to straight up drive healthcare out of the state wholesale if it passes.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/23/23 3:23:18 PM
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Something has to be done about Florida.

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remandramdoll
03/23/23 3:28:36 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
it says "including sexual characteristics", not "limited to"
so in theory banning "therapy that alter internal or external physical traits" just banned pretty much every single medicine in existance
No viagra
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Questionmarktarius
03/23/23 3:42:42 PM
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remandramdoll posted...
No viagra
When viagra's illegal, poppers start looking pretty good again.
Good luck putting the lid back on that. That's not a pun.
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Strider102
03/23/23 3:46:39 PM
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Florida, this is what happens when you limit education. No wonder Florida Man is the way he is.

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Foppe
03/23/23 3:48:11 PM
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Fucking with women is just a bonus for them.

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iPhone_7
03/23/23 3:49:43 PM
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But both parties are equally bad and it doesnt really matter who you vote for cause nothing changes. I am very smart. Both sides!

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MICHALECOLE
03/23/23 3:50:56 PM
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Becoming an ally to cancer to own the libs
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ROBANN_88
03/23/23 4:55:10 PM
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right wingers always talk about how they need their guns to fight opression
is this becoming one of those times?

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Questionmarktarius
03/23/23 4:57:57 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
right wingers always talk about how they need their guns to fight opression
is this becoming one of those times?
The biggest leftist who ever left'd told us to never give up our guns.

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Foppe
03/23/23 5:00:00 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
right wingers always talk about how they need their guns to fight opression
is this becoming one of those times?
The right supports this.

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wackyteen
03/24/23 1:01:50 AM
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I wonder if this will also ban circumcision on babies.

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MathMurderer
03/24/23 8:49:20 AM
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The text defines gender clinical interventions as procedures or therapies that alter internal or external physical traits, including surgeries that change primary or secondary sexual characteristics.
What about getting or removing tattoos, any kind of cosmetic surgery (hair removal, hair transplant, botox, etc.) or C-sections for pregnant women?

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Prestoff
03/24/23 12:09:06 PM
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wackyteen posted...
I wonder if this will also ban circumcision on babies.

It won't, a lot of Republican politicians are actually for it so they'll probably make it an exception.

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Choco
03/24/23 12:10:13 PM
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most normal country's most normal state

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wackyteen
03/24/23 12:11:54 PM
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Prestoff posted...
It won't, a lot of Republican politicians are actually for it so they'll probably make it an exception.
Yeah but if this bill stands for decades, a baby could grow up to sue the doctor that did it

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wackyteen
03/24/23 12:12:32 PM
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Choco posted...
most normal country's most normal state
America is totally sane and having a totally normal one atm /s

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hockeybub89
03/24/23 12:13:12 PM
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Florida would ban all healthcare with vague legalese, just so they can have some sort of plausible deniability when confronted about going after trans people. Which is weird because all the press conferences and hot takes directly attack trans people.

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Supersex420
03/24/23 12:13:17 PM
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How many kids have this problem in schools? 1%?

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mario2000
03/24/23 12:13:30 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM
03/24/23 12:13:51 PM
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Florida was a mistake.

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Gritty
03/24/23 12:14:02 PM
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Way to lose the presidential election Republicans
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hockeybub89
03/24/23 12:17:05 PM
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Can't wait for these shithole states to have mortality rates and life expectancies that rival third-world nations because all the real doctors have left, since merely seeing a patient carries the constant threat of imprisonment.

But small government tho. So small that you're under constant fear of it taking you out for crossing it.

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TheGoldenEel
03/24/23 12:21:08 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Can't wait for these shithole states to have mortality rates and life expectancies that rival third-world nations because all the real doctors have left, since merely seeing a patient carries the constant threat of imprisonment.

But small government tho. So small that you're under constant fear of it taking you out for crossing it.
Great news, you dont have to wait!

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Southernfatman
03/24/23 12:21:42 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Can't wait for these shithole states to have mortality rates and life expectancies that rival third-world nations because all the real doctors have left, since merely seeing a patient carries the constant threat of imprisonment.

But small government tho. So small that you're under constant fear of it taking you out for crossing it.

They'll just say it's liberals/Democrats fault somehow and it will work.

At this point a republican could go up and punch one of their supporters right in the face and just say "I didn't do it. A Democrat did" and the supporter would instantly believe them because they're that damn stupid.

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Error1355
03/24/23 12:21:52 PM
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Imagine hating a small group of people so much you're willing to make ANY MEDICAL TREATMENT AT ALL against the law to attack them.

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The_Wheelman1
03/24/23 12:26:47 PM
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This is blind hatred. They are willing to kill straight women with real breast cancer just to not serve transgenders.

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ZMythos
03/24/23 12:28:50 PM
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Alternative title: "Florida is so anti trans it's willing to let people die to breast cancer."

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Gritty
03/24/23 12:29:14 PM
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Clouds_Strife
03/24/23 12:41:17 PM
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Hambo posted...
Why do they fucking care so much what other people want to do to their own bodies? Fuck all this anti-trans bullshit.

Pretty weird thing to say as these people then seem to care an extreme amount to force people to accept what these people do with their bodies.
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hockeybub89
03/24/23 12:54:24 PM
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Clouds_Strife posted...
Pretty weird thing to say as these people then seem to care an extreme amount to force people to accept what these people do with their bodies.
How dare those trans people! Wanting to be legally allowed to be trans! It's simply not fair to bigots that they might be forced to let trans people exist in the same country as them!

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Hambo
03/24/23 1:19:16 PM
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Clouds_Strife posted...
Pretty weird thing to say as these people then seem to care an extreme amount to force people to accept what these people do with their bodies.
No...? I don't think it's weird to say that I value one person's right to bodily autonomy over another person's right to deny them that.

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