Current Events > In some ways, gangsta rap is really lame

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Imagine needing to tell everyone you're a badass to chill music rather than just doing the hard shit cause you have to. The only reason it's not soft is because the money potential in doing it.

All rap is lame

MarthGoomba posted...

All rap is lame

Nah, that's ignorant

Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks! Lick on these nuts and suck the

I wouldn't call it lame, since art is about trying to express yourself in some way, and a lot of gangsta rappers are just making music about their experiences, and if they're lucky, it also helps get them out of that environment.

the lame part, IMO, is when people try to mimick them despite having better opportunities/safer upbringings.

MarthGoomba posted...

All rap is lame

don't you listen to idol music?

MarthGoomba posted...

All rap is lame

if you had any shame, posts like this should make you feel it

boxoto posted...

the lame part, IMO, is when people try to mimick them despite having better opportunities/safer upbringings.

Isn't this pretty much what Papa Doc in 8 Mile was doing?

Hip Hop is real musik

KCJ5062 posted...

Isn't this pretty much what Papa Doc in 8 Mile was doing?

tbh, I haven't seen 8 Mile

MarthGoomba posted...

All rap is lame

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/3/6/AAB1wnAAEO-w.jpg

boxoto posted...

don't you listen to idol music?

Yes, because it's good and actually music

MarthGoomba posted...

Yes, because it's good and actually music

Idk about this. How are you defining music? Does there need to be a person there, and do they need to sing notes? Maybe it could just be the transaction between someone wanting to aurally create something and a listener. Are drummers musicians? Rapping is kind of the musical equivalent to drumming. Even a bad karaoke singer is still "music".

boxoto posted...

I wouldn't call it lame, since art is about trying to express yourself in some way, and a lot of gangsta rappers are just making music about their experiences, and if they're lucky, it also helps get them out of that environment.

the lame part, IMO, is when people try to mimick them despite having better opportunities/safer upbringings.

This. It's basically an autobiography in music form and it's a way to get out of that life

Some of it just sounds good to listen to and for the point your making it's not that bad when you consider
subcategories of rap like atheist rap exists that seem doomed because of lack of interest.

I hate how degrading rap is to women.

Cheater87 posted...

I hate how degrading rap is to women.

Bro.

Your avatar is anime ladies in swimsuits.

Get. Real.

ooger posted...

Bro.

Your avatar is anime ladies in swimsuits.

Get. Real.

It's different when someone else does it.

Cheater87 posted...

I hate how degrading rap is to women.

All of rap, eh?

Can I say rockstars from the 70s-80s slept with 14 year olds on tour as a generalization then?

Did this topic time travel from 1989?

Goddamn I'm glad y'all set it off
Used to be hard now you're just wet and soft
First you was down with the AK
And now I see you on a video with Michel'le?
Lookin' like straight Bozos
I saw it comin' that's why I went solo
And kept on stompin'
When y'all motherfuckers moved straight outta Compton
Livin' with the whites, one big house
And not another ***** in site
I started off with too much cargo
Dropped four ****** now I'm makin' all the dough
White man just rulin'
The ****** With Attitudes, who ya foolin'?
Y'all ****** just phony
I put that on my mama and my dead homies
Yella Boy's on your team, so you're losin'
Ay yo Dre, stick to producin'
Callin' me Arnold, but you been-a-dick
Eazy-E saw your ass and went in it quick
You got jealous when I got my own company
But I'm a man, and ain't nobody helpin' me
Tryna sound like Amerikkka's Most
You could yell all day but you don't come close
'Cause you know I'm the one that flowed
Ya done run 100 miles, but you still got one to go
With the L-E-N-C-H M-O-B, and y'all disgrace the C-P-T
'Cause you're gettin' fucked out your green by a white boy
With no Vaseline
The bigger the cap, the bigger the peelin'
Who gives a fuck about a punk-ass villain?
You're gettin' fucked real quick
And Eazy's dick, is smellin' like MC Ren's shit
Tried to tell you a year ago
But Willie D told me to let a hoe be a hoe, so
I couldn't stop you from gettin' ganked
Now let's play big-bank-take-little-bank
Tried to diss Ice Cube, it wasn't worth it
'Cause the broomstick fit your ass so perfect
Cut my hair and I'll cut them balls
'Cause I heard you like givin' up the drawers
Gang-banged by your manager, fella
Gettin' money out your ass, like a motherfuckin' Ready Teller
Givin' up the dollar bills
Now they got the Villain with a purse and high-heels
So don't believe what Ren say
'Cause he's goin' out like Kunte Kinte
But I got a whip for ya Toby
Used to be my homie, now you act like you don't know me
It's a case of divide-and-conquer
'Cause you let a *** break up my crew
House ***** gotta run and hide
Yellin' Compton, but you moved to Riverside
So don't front, MC Ren, 'cause I remember when you drove a be B210
Broke as a mothafuckin' joke
Let you on the scene to back up the First Team
It ain't my fault, one ***** got smart
And they rippin' your asshole apart
By takin' your green, oh yeah
The Villain does get fucked with no Vaseline
I never have dinner with the President
I never have dinner with the President
I never have dinner with the President
And when I see your ass again, I'll be hesitant
Now I think you a snitch
Throw a house ***** in a ditch
Half-pint bitch, fuckin' your homeboys
You little maggot, Eazy-E turned ******
With your manager, fella
Fuckin' MC Ren, Dr. Dre, and Yella
But if they were smart as me
Eazy-E would be hangin' from a tree
With no Vaseline, just a match and a little bit of gasoline
Light 'em up, burn 'em up, flame on
'Til that Jheri curl is gone
On a permanent vacation, off the massa plantation
Heard you both got the same bank account
Dumb *****, what you thinkin' 'bout?
Get rid of that Devil real simple, put a bullet in his temple
'Cause you can't be the ***** 4 Life crew
With a white *** tellin' you what to do
Pullin' wools with your scams, now I gotta play the Silence of the Lambs
With a midget who's a punk too
Tryna fuck me, but I'd rather fuck you
Eric Wright, punk, always into somethin', gettin' fucked at night
By Mista Shitpacker, bend over for the goddamn *******, no Vaseline
Motherfuckin' nosejob having ass
Motherfuckin' Jheri curl lite
Ambi wearing motherfuckin' bitch

Cheater87 posted...

I hate how degrading rap is to women.

Weird take

DirkDiggles posted...

Goddamn I'm glad y'all set it off

I can't hate on the pioneers, also Dre has good music sense

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Idk, I'm lost on the "hard" feeling. It's a cool beat and the message makes sense and kinda fits the theme of the topic, that you gotta commit to the lifestyle, just putting it in pleasing music form seems a little inauthentic

Tbf, I do agree gangsta rap can come off really lame when it's obvious/been proven the person had a privileged upbringing and didn't need to actually go through anything. You're not only fake, but you're clogging up the pipeline for people who actually need it to not die in struggle.

Some of the takes ITT feel like I traveled back in time to 2003

this is literally a top 3 song of all music of all time

https://open.spotify.com/track/5DH0hDr6OYeukGgnaaf8Sb?si=44eaf2d6bfc4464c

I've always wondered why Tupac and Biggie are held in higher regard than Run-DMC when the latter are just... better.

https://youtu.be/uP4mrZdlXow

OudeGeuze posted...

this is literally a top 3 song of all music of all time

https://open.spotify.com/track/5DH0hDr6OYeukGgnaaf8Sb?si=44eaf2d6bfc4464c

Lol no

Shadowplay posted...

I've always wondered why Tupac and Biggie are held in higher regard than Run-DMC when the latter are just... better.

Tupac was one of the most famous rappers to address stuff like, violence in the hood, trying to relate to women, suicide, etc. I love him. Biggie just had crazy flow that was fun to listen to. He didn't really have an agenda, just fun sounding rapping. You gotta also remember that this was during peak West/East coast rivalries so it was kinda heading this way too.

Cheater87 posted...

I hate how degrading rap is to women.

Rock and country are just as bad, but they always get a pass for it

Master_Kazuya posted...

Lol no

People into Three 6 and what not love throwing up their music. Which is cool. But as a lifetime hip hop head, I always feel it's too rough to be a beginners step, unless you're coming from a genre that already makes rough music. And I don't mean "rough" as in what they're talking about necessary. I mean "rough" as in the sound and presentation. I feel like it's easier to sell people on something more polished.

OudeGeuze posted...

this is literally a top 3 song of all music of all time

https://open.spotify.com/track/5DH0hDr6OYeukGgnaaf8Sb?si=44eaf2d6bfc4464c

Nah, I wouldn't even put that in my top Three 6 Mafia songs, let alone in a greatest of all time list.

Comparing Tupac/Biggie to Run DMC almost feels nonsensical.

Run DMC werent even that great compared to guys of their era lol

Rakim blows Run DMC out the water

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I think reporting about what they've seen or been through is fine.

It's more the bragging about it. It's like, I'm gonna show you how tough I am.... through interpretive dance!

Unless they are so detailed that there's real risk of self incrimination, there's something kinda badass about that.

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No it wasnt

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It's Marth "Weeaboo Stroke Totems" Goomba.

This topic just makes me want to blast Onyx.

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Gangsta rap was a music revolution like punk rock was. It was an anti-establishment movement for its time.

Now if you want to say its overstayed its welcome then fine i can agree with that but its definitely a big important part of musical history.

MarthGoomba posted...

Yes, because it's good and actually music

if your idea of a manufactured sound from young, often exploited girls/women, with manufactured looks and personalities, maybe.

boxoto posted...

if your idea of a manufactured sound from young, often exploited girls/women, with manufactured looks and personalities, maybe.

Please don't point out how incredibly exploitative the idol scene is.

Or how completely disingenuous it is.

They spent a lot of money convincing you otherwise.

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ehh, i'd say about 20 years. I think once Eminem and 50 cent got big it definitely started to feel like corporate gangster rap.