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bob15x
03/11/23 9:32:24 AM
#51:


Hoodroar posted...
Maybe Microsoft shouldn't have fucked their reputation by buying franchises and making them Xbox-exclusive beforehand.

There is no reason to trust them now.

you mean like sony
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Holy_Cloud105
03/11/23 9:33:14 AM
#52:


TheGoldenEel posted...
There is nothing pro consumer about the second biggest gaming company, fresh off its massive purchase of Zenimax, buying the fifth biggest gaming company. Nothing

huge companies consolidating is always bad for the consumer
If there's one thing I've learned is that consumers love monopolies. So I say let Microsoft buy Activision and I hope they start charging $100+ per game and they barely work.

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bob15x
03/11/23 9:34:27 AM
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radical_rhino posted...
Microsoft loses money on Xbox but because their parent company is worth over a hundred times more than their gaming division, they can throw money at developers to make their games Xbox exclusive to drive Sony out of business. Its anti-competitive.

that is a very stupid response
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bob15x
03/11/23 9:35:03 AM
#54:


Holy_Cloud105 posted...
If there's one thing I've learned is that consumers love monopolies. So I say let Microsoft buy Activision and I hope they start charging $100+ per game and they barely work.

but even after purchase MS would not be a monopoly. I suggest you look up that term
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Error1355
03/11/23 9:36:52 AM
#55:


I'm rooting for whatever keeps all media companies being owned by the same parent company for a few more years longer.

So yeah, rooting for Sony to win, but also rooting for no one to ever merge massive game companies again as it's fucking terrible for the industry IMO.

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MrKapowski
03/11/23 10:05:36 AM
#56:


Yeah Sony is absolutely the bad guy in the industry.

Jim Ryan and their shills are upset that Microsoft decided to play by the rules Sony set. If you haven't noticed, everything Ryan claims Microsoft will do is shit Sony has already done or is doing.

Also love the lack of confidence Ryan has in all those great PlayStation exclusives lmao, apparently the only game that matters is CoD and Sony can't survive, even with their massive market share advantage, without it.

The hypocrisy is mind boggling.

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the_pika
03/11/23 10:09:22 AM
#57:


Id love to see Sony cutting a deal with Nintendo so the switch or whatever console is next can ps5 remote play and get versions of ps5 games too
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AceMos
03/11/23 10:25:33 AM
#58:


the_pika posted...
Lets not forget Microsoft was planning to make always-on internet mandatory on their console until they got a lot of backlash and realized Sony would not do that
sony was planning to do it to but saw the backlash so backed out

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TaylorHeinicke
03/11/23 10:28:43 AM
#59:


Can someone recap this whole thing again? Who's merging what? And isn't call of duty already on playstation?

Pls tldr

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Tyranthraxus
03/11/23 10:34:28 AM
#60:


EbonTitanium posted...
I believe that buying major publishers is a bigger deal than making some IPs exclusive.

Sony has basically said what they actually fear between the lines. They're afraid of CoD on Game pass day 1.

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Dark-Summoner
03/11/23 10:52:09 AM
#61:


radical_rhino posted...
Microsoft loses money on Xbox but because their parent company is worth over a hundred times more than their gaming division, they can throw money at developers to make their games Xbox exclusive to drive Sony out of business. Its anti-competitive.

Sony loses money on PS hardware but bc they have market share they can throw money at developers to make their games PS exclusive to drive Xbox out of business. It's anticompetitive.

The head of Xbox has went on record saying he wants to work with Sony for cross play and wants them around since competition breeds innovation. Sony been the child sitting in the corner refusing to play.

Also..."they'll raise the price to $100" Yall do realize that Sony is the one who made the decision to go $70 and everyone followed suit.

But yeah. It's corporation's so we're fucked either way and nobody is "good"...but MS is far from the villain here.
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Foppe
03/11/23 10:52:28 AM
#62:


TaylorHeinicke posted...
Can someone recap this whole thing again? Who's merging what? And isn't call of duty already on playstation?

Pls tldr
Microsoft wants to buy Activision/Blizzard.
Sony is like an angry child, trying to stop it, acting like people only buy Sony hardware to play CoD.
Microsoft says that they will promise to continue to release CoD on both Sony and Nintendo hardware for more than 10 years, with the same launch date and no timed exclusivities.
Sony refuses.

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Dark-Summoner
03/11/23 11:01:03 AM
#63:


Oh also also...CoD is a perk. Not why they're buying Activision Blizzard.

They've straight up said they want King. I think they're ramping up for a "Gamepass Mobile".

My real hope is MS throws money at the Blizzard portion of Act/Blizzard and they can manage to untangle their WoW code and get it on Xbox.
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Revelation34
03/11/23 11:01:35 AM
#64:


Foppe posted...

Microsoft wants to buy Activision/Blizzard.
Sony is like an angry child, trying to stop it, acting like people only buy Sony hardware to play CoD.
Microsoft says that they will promise to continue to release CoD on both Sony and Nintendo hardware for more than 10 years, with the same launch date and no timed exclusivities.
Sony refuses.


We don't need another monopoly company anyway.

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bob15x
03/11/23 11:09:49 AM
#65:


Revelation34 posted...
We don't need another monopoly company anyway.

do you know the definition of monopoly?
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bob15x
03/11/23 11:11:27 AM
#66:


Error1355 posted...
I'm rooting for whatever keeps all media companies being owned by the same parent company for a few more years longer.

So yeah, rooting for Sony to win, but also rooting for no one to ever merge massive game companies again as it's fucking terrible for the industry IMO.

i thought you were smarter than that. This explains why the forum is a shit show when the lead mod is a sony fanboy that can't seem to see how much bad and anti consumer sony has been.
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EbonTitanium
03/11/23 11:12:46 AM
#67:


bob15x posted...
do you know the definition of monopoly?
Do you know how a monopoly starts?

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TheGoldenEel
03/11/23 11:13:42 AM
#68:


bob15x posted...
do you know the definition of monopoly?
do you know how companies become monopolies?

do you think Microsoft, fresh off buying massive publisher Zenimax, now buying massive publisher Activision-Blizzard, plans to stop there?

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Error1355
03/11/23 11:15:21 AM
#69:


bob15x posted...
i thought you were smarter than that. This explains why the forum is a shit show when the lead mod is a sony fanboy that can't seem to see how much bad and anti consumer sony has been.
Me: I don't think the consolidation of all media into major super companies is good.

You: THIS IS WHY GAMEFAQS IS SHIT!

Fuck off.

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divot1338
03/11/23 11:15:29 AM
#70:


Gwynevere posted...
I just want CoD on Game Pass. Bringing Black Ops 2 to game pass might breathe new life into it, and I dont wanna pay $60 for that shit
Youll just pay for it in installments.

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Tyranthraxus
03/11/23 11:17:02 AM
#71:


Monopoly is a legal word. The definition changes according to law. Google is considered a monopoly in many European countries, for example.

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ViewtifulGrave
03/11/23 11:17:23 AM
#72:


Vyrulisse posted...
Sony is a blight on gaming.
They act like they are entitled to have every game on their platform and cry foul when they are at risk of losing a game yet they actively strongarm and moneyhat developers and publishers to keep their games off of other platforms.
Pretty sure Microsoft does the same by throwing money at developers/publishers to release day one on game pass. Not mention they bought around 20 studios in 2018.

I was gonna play Hellblade, but Microsoft brought Ninja Theory and made the sequel Xbox exclusive so I lost interest.

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DarthAragorn
03/11/23 12:04:20 PM
#73:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Pretty sure Microsoft does the same by throwing money at developers/publishers to release day one on game pass. Not mention they bought around 20 studios in 2018.

I was gonna play Hellblade, but Microsoft brought Ninja Theory and made the sequel Xbox exclusive so I lost interest.
Paying companies to put a game on game pass is in no way the same as paying companies to not release a game on other platforms

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TheSavageDragon
03/11/23 12:06:34 PM
#74:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Pretty sure Microsoft does the same by throwing money at developers/publishers to release day one on game pass. Not mention they bought around 20 studios in 2018.

I was gonna play Hellblade, but Microsoft brought Ninja Theory and made the sequel Xbox exclusive so I lost interest.

But that's somehow totally different and Microsoft is the savior of gaming and does it all out of the kindness of their hearts.
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DepreceV2
03/11/23 12:08:36 PM
#75:


Unknown781 posted...
Hopefully Microsoft breaks the deal and just stick to COD on Xbox, Switch and PC if the merger happen.

At this point, I kinda want to see it happen as a fuck you to Sony. This argument from Sony has been too stupid for too long

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DepreceV2
03/11/23 12:10:21 PM
#76:


TheSavageDragon posted...
But that's somehow totally different and Microsoft is the savior of gaming and does it all out of the kindness of their hearts.

That is not the same. Microsoft isnt crying to regulators when Sony makes games exclusive. Its part of the business.

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Foppe
03/11/23 12:13:43 PM
#77:


Sony paying developers to not release their games on Microsoft hardware: Consumer friendly!

Microsoft releasing games on Nintendo and Sony hardware: Anti-consumer monopoly!

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TendoDRM
03/11/23 12:15:04 PM
#78:


the_pika posted...
Id love to see Sony cutting a deal with Nintendo so the switch or whatever console is next can ps5 remote play and get versions of ps5 games too

Lol Sony didn't even want to allow Fortnite cross play with Switch.

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TaylorHeinicke
03/11/23 12:16:42 PM
#79:


Foppe posted...
Microsoft wants to buy Activision/Blizzard.
Sony is like an angry child, trying to stop it, acting like people only buy Sony hardware to play CoD.
Microsoft says that they will promise to continue to release CoD on both Sony and Nintendo hardware for more than 10 years, with the same launch date and no timed exclusivities.
Sony refuses.
Does Sony even have grounds to stop it? What does Sony have to do with Microsoft buying Activision/Blizzard? As far as we care, company A is buying company B and company C is throwing a fit.

I know it's never that simple, but so far, that's what it sounds like to me. Does Microsoft even have to offer those concessions or can they just say "well ok sony you're clearly doing this in bad faith so fuck off you get nothing?"

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TheWizardOfOrz
03/11/23 12:18:28 PM
#80:


Foppe posted...
Rare released multiple games on Nintendo hardware after Microsoft bought them.
What games were those?
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TheSavageDragon
03/11/23 12:18:32 PM
#81:


DepreceV2 posted...
That is not the same. Microsoft isnt crying to regulators when Sony makes games exclusive. Its part of the business.

You're right, it's not the same. They're not making games exclusive, they're buying up entire massive publishers. Which is a bad thing for all of gaming.
I think Sony is a POS company, but all this Microsoft wank is hilarious. It's like everyone forgot the first 2 decades of them pulling shit left and right because Gamepass is now a thing.
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PiOverlord
03/11/23 12:22:22 PM
#82:


I've always seen Sony as the bad guys.

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Lost_All_Senses
03/11/23 12:22:26 PM
#83:


Sony has Kill Zone. Why would they need CoD? :3

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andel
03/11/23 12:27:17 PM
#84:


yeah, microsoft is definitely the bigger evil at the moment. hopefully this deal continues to get nuked

call of duty isn't something i care about or play but microsoft continuing to buy up companies is terrible for gaming.

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Foppe
03/11/23 12:27:39 PM
#85:


TaylorHeinicke posted...
Does Sony even have grounds to stop it? What does Sony have to do with Microsoft buying Activision/Blizzard? As far as we care, company A is buying company B and company C is throwing a fit.

I know it's never that simple, but so far, that's what it sounds like to me. Does Microsoft even have to offer those concessions or can they just say "well ok sony you're clearly doing this in bad faith so fuck off you get nothing?"
Since it is a pretty big acquisition, the biggest one in videogame history, it must be approved by international regulators, to prevent monopoly.
Sony have the right to talk about their concerns about it, since it is in the same business, showing their side of it.
Since Sony is not taking the deal, nothing really prevents Microsoft from doing a "well ok sony you're clearly doing this in bad faith so fuck off you get nothing!"
It will however give Sony, and its fanboys, "proof" that Sony was right all the time, so Microsoft will most likely push out CoD on Sony even if they dont have to.
Hopefully it means that Sony will revive some of their old dead shooter IPs, trying to make people buy them instead of CoD.

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VeggetaX
03/11/23 12:31:16 PM
#86:


I thought y'all hated CoD. But because Sony don't want it then now it's a big deal?

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NoxObscuras
03/11/23 12:35:42 PM
#87:


TaylorHeinicke posted...
Does Sony even have grounds to stop it? What does Sony have to do with Microsoft buying Activision/Blizzard? As far as we care, company A is buying company B and company C is throwing a fit.

I know it's never that simple, but so far, that's what it sounds like to me. Does Microsoft even have to offer those concessions or can they just say "well ok sony you're clearly doing this in bad faith so fuck off you get nothing?"
Because their original complaint was that if the merger happens, CoD would become Xbox exclusive and that it would hurt Sony as it's really the only major FPS on their platform.

But they've been rejecting the CoD deals because they really just want the entire merger to stop.

And while it's hypocritical of them to complain about exclusivity, it does make sense for them to be worried about their competitor buying one of the largest developers in the industry. Especially after Microsoft already bought several other large companies.

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Foppe
03/11/23 1:01:56 PM
#88:


TheWizardOfOrz posted...
What games were those?
Donkey Kong Country GBA
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntys Revenge
Sabre Wulf
Donkey Kong Country 2 GBA
It's Mister Pants
Banjo-Pilot
Donkey Kong Country 3 GBA
Diddy Kong Racing DS
Viva Pinata: Pocket Paradise

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ViewtifulGrave
03/11/23 5:05:40 PM
#89:


DarthAragorn posted...
Paying companies to put a game on game pass is in no way the same as paying companies to not release a game on other platforms
Did you not read the second part of my post?

Microsoft bought Ninja Theory and made the sequel to a multi platform game an Xbox exclusive.

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TheWizardOfOrz
03/11/23 6:00:29 PM
#90:


Foppe posted...
Donkey Kong Country GBA
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntys Revenge
Sabre Wulf
Donkey Kong Country 2 GBA
It's Mister Pants
Banjo-Pilot
Donkey Kong Country 3 GBA
Diddy Kong Racing DS
Viva Pinata: Pocket Paradise
On August 11, 2003, Microsoft announced their partnership with publisher THQ for distributing Rare's GBA titles, including the newly revealed It's Mr. Pants, set for an early 2004 release.[9]

Interesting. So basically Microsoft contracted THQ to let Nintendo have a bunch of gba games Rare had been making. Not sure if this is particularly a good sign since this looks like a very specific limited partnership, but who knows I guess.

Also Mr Pants was apparently going to be Donkey Kong themed back when they were working with Nintendo and allowed to use the license
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Kloe_Rinz
03/11/23 6:13:30 PM
#91:


bob15x posted...
but even after purchase MS would not be a monopoly. I suggest you look up that term
Oh so that makes it 100% ethical and perfectly OK then. Because some random shitposter said its not a monopoly
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Foppe
03/11/23 6:18:52 PM
#92:


Microsoft even published a Mario-themed Minecraft on Nintendo hardware.

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Foppe
03/11/23 6:24:14 PM
#93:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Oh so that makes it 100% ethical and perfectly OK then. Because some random shitposter said its not a monopoly
So how is it a monopoly when I can still buy multiple non-Microsoft hardware that got non-Microsoft exclusives?

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Barber102
03/11/23 6:28:38 PM
#94:


Hoodroar posted...
Maybe Microsoft shouldn't have fucked their reputation by buying franchises and making them Xbox-exclusive beforehand.

There is no reason to trust them now.

yup like what happened with bethesda. Sony needs to win this. Fuck microsoft.

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Kloe_Rinz
03/11/23 6:38:05 PM
#96:


Foppe posted...
So how is it a monopoly when I can still buy multiple non-Microsoft hardware that got non-Microsoft exclusives?
what do you think a monopoly is?
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Frolex
03/11/23 7:37:20 PM
#97:


When the angry libcucks try to tell you that Standard Oil is a monoply but you counter by saying they only control 90% of the market and not 100%
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DKBananaSlamma
03/11/23 7:37:44 PM
#98:


ProfessorKukui posted...
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Spiderman23J
03/11/23 9:06:05 PM
#100:


Sony acting like some hoes

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Damn_Underscore
03/11/23 10:06:30 PM
#101:


You guys are just trying to conform to your political views. As a gamer I can see the vast benefits of Microsoft buying Activision, and that matters a lot more to me (and obviously a lot of other people on this gaming website) than Microsoft possibly becoming too powerful.

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