Current Events > Stop shaming non-voters.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Everyone who can vote but chooses not to is ultimately response for every bad thing a politician does

That is idiotic to the point of absurdity. George Carlin put it best.
"If you go out, and you vote, and these people get into office and they screw everything up, then you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You have no right to complain.
I on the other hand, who did not vote, who on fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every reason to complain as loud as I want about the mess that you made that I had nothing to do with."

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Hillary Clinton

They deserve to be shamed. White supremacy is on the rise and people won't stand in line and give up even a little bit of their time to fight it. If voting in the US were mandatory, Republicans would get 30% of the vote.

It's easier to pull a "my vote won't count" or a "they'll suppress my vote" than it is to actually do something. Let Republicans suppress your vote if it comes down to it. If Democracy is a faade, if Republicans can claim a parsley 30% of the vote and still take the White House, then it's best we rip the mask off and do something about it. Under no circumstances can we allow white supremacists to dictate terms to a nation.

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You seem to have the strange belief that everyone who didn't vote would have been on your side, instead of the other side, or simply indifferent.

CaptainStrong posted...

Hillary Clinton

Won the majority/popular vote across all 50 states.

Jagr_68 posted...

Won the majority/popular vote across all 50 states.

Then she would have won the Electoral College in a landslide victory even bigger than Reagan's victory in 1984.
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So what? Popular vote doesn't determine the president. She knew that and she still campaigned like a dumbass and ignored the rust belt.

I blame Clinton refusing to campaign in battleground states under the assumption she would win because nobody would vote for Donald Trump

I also blame Clinton for propping up Trump over other candidates during the primary

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Consider also the possible number of "why bother" republican-leaning non-voters in New York and California.

Jagr_68 posted...

Won the majority/popular vote across all 50 states.

It was also the vote with one of the lowest voter turnout in history.

Americans stayed home for that vote.

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If they block your right to vote, take to social media.

VGAddict90 posted...

Stop shaming non-voters. Not everyone can afford to take time off work to wait in line for hours to vote. Not everyone has the same access to voting that you do.

ok now what about non-voters in normal countries? @VGAddict90 please make your topic titles less misleading in the future

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Not sure about the Bernie Sanders thing, but it's more of a "millenial" and maybe "zoomer" problem than it is a left problem. Age demograph shows that Baby Boomers and Gen X'ers have been fairly consistent while Millenials have shown time again and again are more likely to abstain from voting. The issue is Millenials tend to vote left on politics, which as you saw was the biggest contributing factor to the 2016 election. This is one of the reasons we're given the "lazy" stereotype (even though I'll say it's farther from the truth), but there is no doubt that Millenials and especially Zoomers are more likely to participate in slacktivism than they are actually doing anything to help on a legislative level.... like voting.

OudeGeuze posted...

I blame Clinton refusing to campaign in battleground states under the assumption she would win because nobody would vote for Donald Trump

I also blame Clinton for propping up Trump over other candidates during the primary

Don't forget completely shitting on or ignoring progressives and Bernie voters by picking a VP who was essentially her own mirror image.

While its important to vote, I can understand why people wouldnt want to. It seems like no matter what or who you vote for, it doesnt really matter in the end.

There are more important things you can be doing than voting, so its not like youre powerless if you cant find a way to vote.

AloneIBreak posted...

There are more important things you can be doing than voting, so its not like youre powerless if you cant find a way to vote.

Such as?

Xatrion posted...

That is idiotic to the point of absurdity. George Carlin put it best.
"If you go out, and you vote, and these people get into office and they screw everything up, then you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You have no right to complain.
I on the other hand, who did not vote, who on fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every reason to complain as loud as I want about the mess that you made that I had nothing to do with."

Carlin put it quite poorly in this case

I won't say voter suppression isn't a thing because it absolutely is. However, between early voting and mail-in voting I personally have not come across someone who legitimately wanted to vote and could not. Jobs and lines make it harder to vote, not impossible. Many people skip out because it isn't convenient, not because they want to vote and literally can't.

rexcrk posted...

While its important to vote, I can understand why people wouldnt want to. It seems like no matter what or who you vote for, it doesnt really matter in the end.

On a nationwide federal level I can fully understand, but your vote can have a major impact on a local level. I fully understand if you're not politically active (If you don't know what your voting for, I don't think it's a good idea to vote), unable to vote due to State level voter suppression (my friends in Texas tell me the horror stories), or have some form of disability making it hard to vote. The only time I have a problem of being a non-voter is when I know you personally and they're political active on social media but not only announce you're not voting but encouraging others to not vote as well. Statistics show that the more people who vote, the more likely Democrats will win hence why all the voter suppression is primarily Republicans participating in it.

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I'd assume this is due to some "mommy government" delusion. Surely Washington will care what goes on in Podunkville, nowhere, right?

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It's not my fault if you don't understand.
Liberal-types seem to have no concept of "local politics" for some reason.

OudeGeuze posted...

I blame Clinton refusing to campaign in battleground states under the assumption she would win because nobody would vote for Donald Trump

Imagine not voting for someone because you're butthurt that they didn't visit your state

Euripides posted...

Imagine not voting for someone because you're butthurt that they didn't visit your state

That creates a sense of "[candidate] doesn't care about [state]"

pkmnlord posted...

Then you need to change the powers that be by voting them out or establishing rogue militia groups to cause grievous bodily harm to them.

This might be the biggest "had us in the first half, and completely lost us in the second half" post I've ever seen.

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Trump won because of a perfect storm of having a dedicated base, running against a DEEPLY unpopular candidate, foreign interference, and Hillary ignoring the Rust Belt. Even then, he lost the popular vote by 3 million votes.

When he ran against Biden, who has NOWHERE NEAR the baggage Hillary had, he lost by the exact amount he won in 2016.

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Oh, Trump was able to talk directly about Wisconsin's issues? DO TELL

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Nice. Now Rush to the vote!

My back is spineless.

My belly is yellow.

I am the American non-voter.

Punished_Blinx posted...

My back is spineless.

My belly is yellow.

I am the American non-voter.

Hah, I actually just watched that one the other night.

Staying and sleeping > voting

Besides we're just gonna get some out of touch douchebag that's gonna be unqualified to run the country and doesn't give a shit about the people.

Not voting is the one kink it will always be okay to shame.

SychopathicRyda posted...

Staying and sleeping > voting

Besides we're just gonna get some out of touch douchebag that's gonna be unqualified to run the country and doesn't give a shit about the people.

Trump showed that notion is utter bullshit.