Current Events > "Here's why there's no such thing as trans genocide."

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CyricZ
03/02/23 6:48:17 AM
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https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1630597141319274496

According to Michael Knowles of the Daily Wire, it's because they're "not a legitimate category of being" and they're "laboring under a delusion, and we need to correct that delusion".

Is that a thing that a non-genocidal person says?

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MedeaLysistrata
03/02/23 6:57:20 AM
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i remember having this discussion somewhere

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Hornezz
03/02/23 6:58:35 AM
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Also note how he uses air quotes when saying the word transgender people at 1:21.

Blatant nazi rhetoric.

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Akagami_Shanks
03/02/23 7:20:52 AM
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"There's no trans genocide because I don't recognize them as people"

switch some of the words around and you have like every justification for a massacre in history lol

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Jiek_Fafn
03/02/23 7:21:22 AM
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It's easier to substantiate those claims in regards to Michael Knowles

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hockeybub89
03/02/23 7:23:56 AM
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Technically they're can't be because these fascists will extend the genocide to the entire LGBTQ+ community

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GrandConjuraton
03/02/23 7:24:32 AM
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And people wonder why my self confidence is so low.

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Raikuro
03/02/23 7:26:57 AM
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Religion is a delusion, why not spend your energy correcting that
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indica
03/02/23 7:28:23 AM
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So basically he's saying if you were to slaughter 1.6 million people it's okay because it's not genocide ( O_o) Like, even if I agreed with you, what the fuck are you saying? Is he promoting mass murder?

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Foppe
03/02/23 7:31:43 AM
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indica posted...
So basically he's saying if you were to slaughter 1.6 million people it's okay because it's not genocide ( O_o) Like, even if I agreed with you, what the fuck are you saying? Is he promoting mass murder?
Nononono, he is... correcting a delusion.

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hockeybub89
03/02/23 7:33:51 AM
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indica posted...
So basically he's saying if you were to slaughter 1.6 million people it's okay because it's not genocide ( O_o) Like, even if I agreed with you, what the fuck are you saying? Is he promoting mass murder?
He's saying it's not genocide because he doesn't recognize them as people

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hockeybub89
03/02/23 7:39:55 AM
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Remember this is the kind of stuff Republicans will defend as "everyone is entitled to free speech" while they cheer on politicians trying to unilaterally police the Internet and Disney films for "LGBT propaganda"

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CARRRNE_ASADA
03/02/23 7:40:42 AM
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Its the DAILY WIRE What did you expect? Theyre just saying what their base wants to hear, although this one is particularly dangerous rhetoric. This is how people are dehumanized.

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FunkyCat
03/02/23 8:29:08 AM
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I guess no one committed genocide under that logic.

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rexcrk
03/02/23 8:31:14 AM
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Jesus Christ wtf


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MaxEffingBemis
03/02/23 8:33:08 AM
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And the reason theyve largely shifted to trans issues is because they got owned so hard on abortion issues

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UnfairRepresent
03/02/23 8:35:09 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi
03/02/23 8:38:00 AM
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Meanwhile, I bet this very same person will self-identify as a conservative/Republican and argue that Republicans are being persecuted by the liberal/"woke" agenda without any sense of self-awareness or irony.

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ROOTFayth
03/02/23 8:49:17 AM
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I wish all things transgender would stop being on the news, its such a minority, its taking waaaay too much space atm

so many things to tackle that are far more important, just let em do whatever they want as long as they arent hurting anybody its whatever

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/02/23 8:51:19 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
I wish all things transgender would stop being on the news, its such a minority, its taking waaaay too much space atm

so many things to tackle that are far more important, just let em do whatever they want as long as they arent hurting anybody its whatever

But see that's the thing. They wouldn't be on the news so much if there weren't people who want to arrest/execute them for being trans

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wackyteen
03/02/23 8:52:43 AM
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"There's no genocide of Jewish people because they're not a legitimate (human/category of) being"

Could totally see a Nazi saying that justify the Holocaust.

It's also similar logic used by racists to justify slavery. "Our superior race deserves to subjugate the inferior races." Read in reverse its "The inferior races don't deserve equal treatment because they're not as legitimate human beings as us"

It's disgusting and dehumanizing and I'm not allowed to say what we should do to people who believe this kind of rhetoric because that might offend their feefees

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ROOTFayth
03/02/23 8:55:08 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
But see that's the thing. They wouldn't be on the news so much if there weren't people who want to arrest/execute them for being trans
yeah, its become way too political, we are far lost
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indica
03/02/23 8:57:33 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
He's saying it's not genocide because he doesn't recognize them as people
So he's suggesting the slaughter of these 1.6 million "not people", like he's straight up advocating slaughter as okay because it's not genocide. WTF?

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thronedfire2
03/02/23 8:58:38 AM
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If it acts like a Nazi and talks like a Nazi are we allowed to call it a Nazi?

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Euripides
03/02/23 9:00:45 AM
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As the father of two queer kids (one of which is trans), this terrifies me
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ElleRagu
03/02/23 9:03:26 AM
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literally a genocider 101 tactic

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famfam
03/02/23 9:04:04 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
I wish all things transgender would stop being on the news, its such a minority, its taking waaaay too much space atm

so many things to tackle that are far more important, just let em do whatever they want as long as they arent hurting anybody its whatever

yeah, that's kind of what trans people want, but the people who are stopping them keep putting them in the news
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Euripides
03/02/23 9:04:38 AM
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Real "if we just stop talking about racism it will go away and the liberals are the REAL racists" vibes going on in this thread
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SHRIKE
03/02/23 9:07:32 AM
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So its not genocide because they dont see trans people as real people? Pretty sure that step has been on the roadmap of all genocides throughout history.

I dont often agree 100% with Cyric but I wholeheartedly agree with his overall sentiment. Ive definitely got his back here completely with this being a fucking abhorrent train of thought.

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/02/23 9:10:21 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
yeah, its become way too political, we are far lost

It hasn't "become" political. Trans rights isn't a political issue. It's just basic human decency.

The GOP and their supporters are just fascists. Plain and simple.

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ROOTFayth
03/02/23 9:18:37 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
It hasn't "become" political. Trans rights isn't a political issue. It's just basic human decency.

The GOP and their supporters are just fascists. Plain and simple.
it definitely has, like covid had become political, if it wasnt you wouldnt hear about it all the time
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Euripides
03/02/23 9:25:07 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
it definitely has, like covid had become political, if it wasnt you wouldnt hear about it all the time

If you truly believe this, you're part of the problem
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CyricZ
03/02/23 9:28:30 AM
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The problem isn't things "becoming political".

The problem is that a political position has emerged that is "against" certain people.

The answer is not to make it "not political".

The answer is to fight that political position with everything we have.

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/02/23 9:31:52 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
it definitely has, like covid had become political, if it wasnt you wouldnt hear about it all the time

You hear about it all the time because it's a valid public health concern.

The only people who think it's political are people on the right. Everyone else is just talking common sense.

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Gwynevere
03/02/23 10:14:01 AM
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Trans people don't make their identities political, conservatives do. This wouldn't be an issue if right wingers weren't deflecting away from their atrocious economic policies by waging a culture war.

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ROOTFayth
03/02/23 10:20:55 AM
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so you guys agree the right made this issue political
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Ruvan22
03/02/23 11:40:40 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
so you guys agree the right made this issue political

I'd agree that the right created a political issue (not an existing 'this' issue)

I don't agree with you that all things transgender would stop being on the news, its such a minority as I would still want recognition of them and other minorities in the news.
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Lokison
03/02/23 11:49:24 AM
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It's become political because certain people decided it was and made it into that. Should it be? No. Why does how someone else dress and act matter to you unless your skin is so thin it's transparent?

Unfortunately.. it is political now because what's in your pants, my pants, and Steve's pants matters to someone whi has no need to know.

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GrandConjuraton
03/02/23 11:58:01 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
It hasn't "become" political. Trans rights isn't a political issue. It's just basic human decency.

The GOP and their supporters are just fascists. Plain and simple.


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SHRIKE
03/02/23 12:08:52 PM
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Such a silly sentiment. Everything is political.

"don't make it political" is the equivalent of saying "just ignore them" when someone is abusing you. It's only benefits the abuser.
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SHRIKE
03/02/23 12:11:26 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
It hasn't "become" political. Trans rights isn't a political issue. It's just basic human decency.

The GOP and their supporters are just fascists. Plain and simple.

I don't even know why it being "political" is even a concern in the first place. It's just another vapid statement like "woke" or "cancelling" that needs to be ignored in rational debate. It's a cypher that people imprint their own meaning on and contributes nothing to any conversation.

Just look at this topic. People are arguing more about the meaning of something being "political" than discussing the underlying issues. This is by design. Well done for anyone falling for it.
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