Current Events > Peter Pan and Wendy trailer from Disney

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https://twitter.com/filmhoundsmag/status/1630616556051873808?s=46&t=HlWYnysZDSQaBihLlVHFwQ
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I'm going to be honest, I'm legitimately surprised Wendy isn't Black. I guess another studio already did that though.

This looks surprisingly decent. Though, unless I missed her somewhere, I didn't get a good look at Tinkerbell. Is she CGI in this one?

looks like it could be good, tbh.

Where tf is the color @Zithers

Avatar 2 has spoiled me

Blue_Inigo posted...

Where tf is the color @Zithers

Avatar 2 has spoiled me

dude

the annihilation of joy in cinema is real

unless you are god cameron or god cruise @blue_inigo

Was that Jude Law as Hook?

Almost want to see this just to see what they do with the Indian scenes.

BurmesePenguin posted...

Almost want to see this just to see what they do with the Indian scenes.

They'll probably leave them out like Hook did.

FortuneCookie posted...

This looks surprisingly decent. Though, unless I missed her somewhere, I didn't get a good look at Tinkerbell. Is she CGI in this one?

I'm pretty sure the black fairy zooming around is supposed to be Tinkerbell.

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Killer mustache on the dude:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/2/AABfkMAAEOnk.jpg

FortuneCookie posted...

I'm going to be honest, I'm legitimately surprised Wendy isn't Black. I guess another studio already did that though.

This looks surprisingly decent. Though, unless I missed her somewhere, I didn't get a good look at Tinkerbell. Is she CGI in this one?

Tinkerbell is BLACK

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/3/AAZaD9AAEOnl.jpg

Ivynn posted...

Tinkerbell is BLACK

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/3/AAZaD9AAEOnl.jpg

Oh thank god they made classic character black, I was so close to demanding a boycott. I think they could have also made Wendy or Captain Hook black but this is ok.

Okay, that surprises me.

I support inclusive casting, but Tinkerbell is genuinely the last character in any Disney property that I would expect to receive a cosmetic change. She's always been Disney's second-biggest mascot character after Mickey Mouse himself. In that regard, it's kind of like changing Mickey's fur.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did it to prevent another studio from imagining Tinkerbell as a Black character. When CBS tried to make an animated series called Peter Pan and the Pirates, Disney threatened to sue if Tinkerbell was depicted as anything other than a ball of light. Executives then pointed to the fact that Tinkerbell receives a human description in the original novel. CBS backed down from making the cartoon -- but Fox picked it up months later as a middle finger to Disney. Just because a character is public domain, that doesn't prevent Disney lawyers from bullying other studios.

Anyway, she's kinda cute.

Ivynn posted...

Tinkerbell is BLACK

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/3/AAZaD9AAEOnl.jpg

I feel bad for the kids who see this temporary representation, think "Omg she looks like me!", go to Disney World, and wonder why Tinkerbell is white.

I didn't watch the movie, but Lucius Malfoy was Captain Hook in one of those many peter pan adaptations and I think that was the best casting for Hook easily. Jason Isaacs plays the scary Hook perfectly

looks like shite

Are there any Asian actors/actresses casted in this movie?

FortuneCookie posted...

Okay, that surprises me.

I support inclusive casting, but Tinkerbell is genuinely the last character in any Disney property that I would expect to receive a cosmetic change. She's always been Disney's second-biggest mascot character after Mickey Mouse himself. In that regard, it's kind of like changing Mickey's fur.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did it to prevent another studio from imagining Tinkerbell as a Black character. When CBS tried to make an animated series called Peter Pan and the Pirates, Disney threatened to sue if Tinkerbell was depicted as anything other than a ball of light. Executives then pointed to the fact that Tinkerbell receives a human description in the original novel. CBS backed down from making the cartoon -- but Fox picked it up months later as a middle finger to Disney. Just because a character is public domain, that doesn't prevent Disney lawyers from bullying other studios.

Anyway, she's kinda cute.

Black, white, all that's important is she has dat booty

https://youtu.be/KGe7HGyeEMA?t=4

Ivynn posted...

Black, white, all that's important is she has dat booty

https://youtu.be/KGe7HGyeEMA?t=4

Fairy dust comes from there!

lennethsoki posted...

I feel bad for the kids who see this temporary representation, think "Omg she looks like me!", go to Disney World, and wonder why Tinkerbell is white.

The Tinkerbell series has a character who is Black. They could have given Tink a cameo and used that character as the primary fairy instead. You know they're not redesigning the character going forward since this is just a Disney+ movie.

In general, this is kind of an issue. On one hand, inclusion is important and reimagining a homogenous cast as a diverse cast can be a good way to include actors and audience members. On the other hand, it's kind of like tossing someone a shirt to borrow. There's no longevity.

It's especially bad when you're talking about stories that are public domain. You can tell a version of Robin Hood where Little John is Black. You can give Sherlock Holmes a friend who is Asian. But when that story gets retold next time, and by another studio, that character (or character version) is going to be absent.

Ivynn posted...

Black, white, all that's important is she has dat booty

https://youtu.be/KGe7HGyeEMA?t=4

Nice.

RISEofCHRISTIAN posted...

Are there any Asian actors/actresses casted in this movie?

Yara Shahidi, the actress playing Tinkerbell, is half-Iranian.

holy shit i realized i'm so tired of this music
why does this trailer sound like an mcu movie this is so stupid
and then the required slowmo jump with that sound, fuck

lazy ass shit. even AI could write up less predictable shit.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/3/0/AAPstsAAEOzu.jpg

What the fuck is going on here lol

Why does Peter have black hair? Is that canon?

FortuneCookie posted...

Okay, that surprises me.

I support inclusive casting, but Tinkerbell is genuinely the last character in any Disney property that I would expect to receive a cosmetic change. She's always been Disney's second-biggest mascot character after Mickey Mouse himself. In that regard, it's kind of like changing Mickey's fur.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did it to prevent another studio from imagining Tinkerbell as a Black character. When CBS tried to make an animated series called Peter Pan and the Pirates, Disney threatened to sue if Tinkerbell was depicted as anything other than a ball of light. Executives then pointed to the fact that Tinkerbell receives a human description in the original novel. CBS backed down from making the cartoon -- but Fox picked it up months later as a middle finger to Disney. Just because a character is public domain, that doesn't prevent Disney lawyers from bullying other studios.

Anyway, she's kinda cute.

Most people understand that different versions of a character can exist at the same time. Even by the same company.

creativerealms posted...

Most people understand that different versions of a character can exist at the same time. Even by the same company.

We're talking about two different things here. Changing a character's ethnicity is different from having a different version of a character. And most companies do not want to have the latter.

Changing a character's ethnicity means that you have the same character, but a different ethnic background. Having a different version of a character is like having the upbeat blue-clad George Clooney Batman in a live action movie while the animated Batman and comic book Batman are dark and gritty. That misstep caused Batman movies to go into an eight-year hiatus. Today, they make sure that even the Lego Batman is gloomy. That's character consolidation. That's branding. When you see the name, you know what to expect.

Yara Shahidi is clearly playing the classic Tinkerbell. She may yet prove to be a little modernized in some of her mannerisms, but they saw fit to make sure that she had the same costume and hairstyle that we all recognize.

FortuneCookie posted...

We're talking about two different things here. Changing a character's ethnicity is different from having a different version of a character. And most companies do not want to have the latter.

Changing a character's ethnicity means that you have the same character, but a different ethnic background. Having a different version of a character is like having the upbeat blue-clad George Clooney Batman in a live action movie while the animated Batman and comic book Batman are dark and gritty. That misstep caused Batman movies to go into an eight-year hiatus. Today, they make sure that even the Lego Batman is gloomy. That's character consolidation. That's branding. When you see the name, you know what to expect.

Yara Shahidi is clearly playing the classic Tinkerbell. She may yet prove to be a little modernized in some of her mannerisms, but they saw fit to make sure that she had the same costume and hairstyle that we all recognize.

Changing a fairy or mermaid from black to white is completely irrelevant to ethnicity in this context. It doesn't affect the actual character at all. It's no different than having another version of the character. Kids are certainly able to make the distinction. It's adults that seem to be struggling.

lolife67 posted...

Changing a fairy or mermaid from black to white is completely irrelevant to ethnicity in this context. It doesn't affect the actual character at all. It's no different than having another version of the character. Kids are certainly able to make the distinction. It's adults that seem to be struggling.

I said that in my last post. It doesn't change the character.

There's nothing wrong with this casting.

Oh, this argument again

FortuneCookie posted...

I said that in my last post. It doesn't change the character.

There's nothing wrong with this casting.

Oh, I know you don't have an issue with it.

FortuneCookie posted...

We're talking about two different things here. Changing a character's ethnicity is different from having a different version of a character. And most companies do not want to have the latter.

Changing a character's ethnicity means that you have the same character, but a different ethnic background. Having a different version of a character is like having the upbeat blue-clad George Clooney Batman in a live action movie while the animated Batman and comic book Batman are dark and gritty. That misstep caused Batman movies to go into an eight-year hiatus. Today, they make sure that even the Lego Batman is gloomy. That's character consolidation. That's branding. When you see the name, you know what to expect.

Yara Shahidi is clearly playing the classic Tinkerbell. She may yet prove to be a little modernized in some of her mannerisms, but they saw fit to make sure that she had the same costume and hairstyle that we all recognize.

Unless the new version for this live action movie is going to be the only version of Tinkerbell from now on, then my point still stands. A different version.

creativerealms posted...

Unless the new version for this live action movie is going to be the only version of Tinkerbell from now on, then my point still stands. A different version.

A cosmetic change isn't a different version.

I am more bothered by the fact that Hook and Dr. Darling (the father) are not played by the same actor. Jude Law should have played both roles.

creativerealms posted...

I am more bothered by the fact that Hook and Dr. Darling (the father) are not played by the same actor. Jude Law should have played both roles.

Fucking what.

Joke movie.

creativerealms posted...

I am more bothered by the fact that Hook and Dr. Darling (the father) are not played by the same actor. Jude Law should have played both roles.

Isn't that tradition because it's all a dream?

I'm not acquainted with the stage play or the silent film version, but the animated movie is implied to all be a dream. Peter Pan doesn't show up until Wendy goes to bed. Later, when the children return from Neverland, Wendy is asleep at the window whereas her two brothers are tucked in their beds where their parents left them. She's the only one who wakes up and recounts what happened because it was her dream.

Of course, they had a sequel which later showed that the events did happen, but that wasn't until nearly half a century later. With the events of the film actually taking place in this continuity, there's reason for Wendy to imagine her irate father as the villainous Captain Hook.

Another lazy race and gender swap of established characters that I will not be watching

Peter Pan has been nothing but downhill since Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman anyway.

https://youtu.be/Mi-cMWcXtBI

I'M IRRATIONALLY ANGRY ABOUT MELANIN

Seriously, would this somehow be less of a mediocre cash-in if Tink was white?

It's OK guys, they just cast the best actress for the role.

A_Good_Boy posted...

It's OK guys, they just cast the best actress for the role.

I mean, probably

A_Good_Boy posted...

It's OK guys, they just cast the best actress for the role.

Some people honestly believe it's impossible for a POC to be the best person for a role. They think casting directors just pick the first black person they see.