Current Events > Blinken Russia might have used nukes in Ukraine if not for China and India

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WingsOfGood
02/24/23 12:42:17 PM
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/blinken-suggests-russia-might-have-used-nukes-in-ukraine-already-were-it-not-for-china-and-india/ar-AA17TaiI

China and India may have told Russia directly that they opposed any use of nuclear weapons by Moscow in Ukraine, according to US secretary of state Antony Blinken.
Speaking on the first anniversary of the full-scale invasion, Mr Blinken credited China and India for having a little bit more influence with Russia these days in stalling a potential use of nuclear weapons on the battlefield.
Mr Blinken was asked by The Atlantics Jeff Goldberg how worried Washington was in crossing a line to provoke Russian president Vladimir Putin into using nuclear weapons.
The top American diplomat said escalatory measures like nuclear weapons have not been used by Russia yet because that is the last thing that Vladimir Putin needs is himself in a wider war.
He said there were heightened concerns in some moments, such as when Ukrainian forces launched a counter offensive last Spring and Mr Putin suggested the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
... we urged, and I think successfully, other countries that might have a little bit more influence with Russia these days, like China, but also other countries like India, to engage him [Putin] directly about their absolute opposition to any use of nuclear weapons, he said.
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UnfairRepresent
02/24/23 12:46:36 PM
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Bullshit

Russia is never going to nuke Ukraine, it's next door and they are trying to the damn thing over

If Russia nukes anyone it'd be the UK, hence why they threaten to do it every other week

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Foppe
02/24/23 12:48:33 PM
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Why nuke something that you see as your own country?

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WingsOfGood
02/24/23 12:49:14 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Bullshit

Russia is never going to nuke Ukraine, it's next door and they are trying to the damn thing over

If Russia nukes anyone it'd be the UK, hence why they threaten to do it every other week

I think we should all take your word over US secretary of state Antony Blinken.

Surely you have critical intel not widely available to general public and he does not.
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WingsOfGood
02/24/23 12:50:05 PM
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Foppe posted...
Why nuke something that you see as your own country?

Guys nukes aren't always gigantic explosions.

Some are just big enough to blow up a walmart that has reinforced walls as in a small military fortress.
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DrizztLink
02/24/23 12:50:34 PM
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ayyy blinken

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Foppe
02/24/23 12:51:38 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Guys nukes aren't always gigantic explosions.

Some are just big enough to blow up a walmart that has reinforced walls as in a small military fortress.
It still leaves radiation, so why not use a bunker bomb instead?

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UnfairRepresent
02/24/23 12:52:18 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
I think we should all take your word over US secretary of state Antony Blinken.

Surely you have critical intel not widely available to general public and he does not.
Google appeal to authority

Then come back then explain why any nation would nuke a nation right next door (which would effect Russia) that they are actively attempting to annex.

And then after explaining why would they do that, go to on to explain why fucking India going "Nah bruh" would make them change their mind.

It makes no fucking sense and is blatant bullshit

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Questionmarktarius
02/24/23 12:53:18 PM
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Nuking Kyiv would blow the fallout directly to Moscow.
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WingsOfGood
02/24/23 12:53:18 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Google appeal to authority

Then come back then explain why any nation would nuke a nation right next door (which would effect Russia) that they are actively attempting to annex.

And then after explaining why would they do that, go to on to explain why fucking India going "Nah bruh" would make them change their mind.

It makes no fucking sense and is blatant bullshit

I am not the one saying it, he is.

I am not appealing to authority I am reporting what he said and you are saying he is wrong.
Go argue with him not me.
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UnfairRepresent
02/24/23 12:54:57 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...


I am not appealing to authority

WingsOfGood posted...


I think we should all take your word over US secretary of state Antony Blinken.

Surely you have critical intel not widely available to general public and he does not.


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WingsOfGood
02/24/23 12:55:55 PM
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that is not appeal to authority

that is me choosing to believe him over you

I myself have no stake in this argument
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Doom_Art
02/24/23 12:59:07 PM
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who is Blinken Russia and how does he have access to nukes

he has to be stopped

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Southernfatman
02/24/23 1:01:01 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
ayyy blinken

Did you say "Abe Lincoln"?

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WingsOfGood
02/24/23 1:01:31 PM
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420 BLAZinken
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UnfairRepresent
02/24/23 1:07:07 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
that is not appeal to authority

that is me choosing to believe him over you
Because he's an authority. That's what appeal to authority is. When you don't make decisions based on logic or facts or reasoning and instead based on the title of the person saying it.

You're beliving nonsense and complete fallacies with no logic because it comes from an authority figure.

There is 0 reason to nuke the country you're trying to take over that's right next to your own country, let alone a country famous for farming

And then once you're gungho on doing that being talked out of it by India.

Do you believe Trump actually won the election because he says so? Don't just accept things because the person saying it has a fancy title. People have agendas and say complete bullshit because there are folks out there who just believe whatever they are told.

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Octans
02/24/23 1:07:07 PM
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I would absolutely take the word of a random ceman over dishonest Abe


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MedeaLysistrata
02/24/23 1:09:33 PM
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Russia can't nuke Ukraine without reverting the world further than the Cold War. if not for China and India Russia's economy would not be doing surprisingly well

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MedeaLysistrata
02/24/23 1:15:21 PM
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Joy from The View is a particularly good reason no one takes appeal to authority charges seriously

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Questionmarktarius
02/24/23 1:18:33 PM
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FigureOfSpeech
02/24/23 1:22:59 PM
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Antony "No I didn't say Abe Lincoln, I said A. Blinken" Blinken
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WingsOfGood
02/24/23 1:28:58 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Because he's an authority. That's what appeal to authority is. When you don't make decisions based on logic or facts or reasoning and instead based on the title of the person saying it.

You're beliving nonsense and complete fallacies with no logic because it comes from an authority figure.

There is 0 reason to nuke the country you're trying to take over that's right next to your own country, let alone a country famous for farming

And then once you're gungho on doing that being talked out of it by India.

Do you believe Trump actually won the election because he says so? Don't just accept things because the person saying it has a fancy title. People have agendas and say complete bullshit because there are folks out there who just believe whatever they are told.

Appeal to authority is if I make a claim myself then use an authority to back me up.

I did not.

I reported the news and you attacked the guy who is an authority all by yourself.
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Smashingpmkns
02/24/23 1:31:12 PM
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This all just seems like bad propaganda. I feel like we used to make good propaganda. What happened

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MedeaLysistrata
02/24/23 1:43:17 PM
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ok, it is possible for Putin to use nukes in Ukraine.

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WingsOfGood
02/24/23 1:43:58 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
ok, it is possible for Putin to use nukes in Ukraine.

Are you willing to debate Unfair?
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nexigrams
02/27/23 1:33:33 AM
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Foppe posted...
Why nuke something that you see as your own country?

I mean, it's not much different from what they've already been doing tbh. Half the country is rubble at this point, and they continue to bomb key infrastructure. The amount of time and effort and money it's gonna take to rebuild already is staggering. I don't think Putin really cares if Ukraine is a parking lot at the end of the war, as long as it's in his sphere of influence and not the West's.

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ManaYuka
02/27/23 2:35:40 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
This all just seems like bad propaganda. I feel like we used to make good propaganda. What happened

It was always bad after 9/11. Weapons of mass destruction, kill Isis over there so we dont have to over here, were saying the same thing about Russia now lol

Blinken is just keeping up the Putin bogeyman argument we have to somehow overthrow him

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GuerrillaSoldier
02/27/23 2:42:32 AM
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what makes you guys think he wouldn't nuke moldova

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Questionmarktarius
02/27/23 11:35:01 AM
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GuerrillaSoldier posted...
what makes you guys think he wouldn't nuke moldova
Moldova is too weird a shape to not also end up nuking Romania.
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