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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 9:26:17 AM
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Incredible game. The way they tied the first and second game together is wild. The catalyst that destroyed and rebuilt the universe created the worlds of XC1 and XC2 and they take place at the same time, and the guy that did it was split into two and recreated those worlds. Apparently XC3 ties the two games together even further.

The villains in this game were also great. I liked how they introduced the main villain and he was the main villain the entire game. Amalthus becoming a secondary (tertiary?) antagonist halfway through the game was also good. Wonderful, engaging story.

Obv has its flaws like the field skills system. Especially having story progress locked behind field skills was stupid. Malos motivation was weak. Story takes a while to get going. Gameplay gets bloated and lack of explanations. Overall a great game though.

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 11:25:15 AM
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Where are all the Xeno-heads at

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Blue_Inigo
02/23/23 11:26:57 AM
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Did you shit your pants when Malos pulled out a fucking MONADO

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Jupiter
02/23/23 11:29:55 AM
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I just beat it a month or two ago after starting a playthrough back in like 2018 or 2019 lol. I dropped it maybe 3-5 hours in after I decided to play some quicker games first. Beat XB1 last fall or winter then came back to this on a new playthrough. Man, did I feel like this game dragged on FOREVER.

I like the characters in XC2 more than XC1, but damn everything else sucked. I think the combat was way slower in XC2. And they stupidly removed QOL features. I should be able to see all targets related to subquests on the map even if that subquest isn't set to my current. Although to be fair, I don't know if that was a thing with the original XC1 like it was with the Definitive Edition. But I hear it's the same in XC3 as it was for XC2 so I guess they did remove it.

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MJOLNRVII
02/23/23 11:31:21 AM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Where are all the Xeno-heads at
Work. Seriously though I liked Xeno 2 a lot, maybe more than 1. I think 1's the better game(and I prefer its cast), but I was more into 2 while I was playing it. Torna the Golden Country was also a fantastic prequel and better than the main game imo. 3 has no gacha thankfully, its antagonists are pretty meh compared to the first two, but I liked it a bunch. I may have to play it again or go back to Xenoblade 2 for a second playthrough to better organize my thoughts and opinions on the series, but that won't be anytime soon.

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TaylorHeinicke
02/23/23 11:31:32 AM
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such a good game

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 12:08:19 PM
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Got back to my 50+ hour play through of XC3 and Im noticing that the graphics are much worse in this game than the last one. Yeesh

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 12:08:55 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Did you shit your pants when Malos pulled out a fucking MONADO
Yeah when I was fighting him and he kept using Monado armor I was like oh shit wtf because I didnt notice. But yeah that was wild

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Jupiter
02/23/23 12:13:23 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Did you shit your pants when Malos pulled out a fucking MONADO
I don't think I even realized it was a Monado.

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TaylorHeinicke
02/23/23 12:15:52 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Got back to my 50+ hour play through of XC3 and Im noticing that the graphics are much worse in this game than the last one. Yeesh
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought this. It was still a fun game but visually a step back

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 12:51:11 PM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought this. It was still a fun game but visually a step back
Yeah its shockingly bad in comparison

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ViewtifulJoe
02/23/23 1:02:06 PM
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Which characters were your favorites?

I settled for watching it so I don't have any gameplay bolstering my connections to the characters. Still though, Zeke felt like the closest to a Xeno1 character. Vandham was cool too, it would have been nice if he got to stick around longer.

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NoxObscuras
02/23/23 1:07:01 PM
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Yeah I thought the game was good overall, but I hated the gachapon mechanics and wished they had handled blades a bit differently. I also hated the combat system at first, because it's extremely slow paced at first. But it got a lot better by mid game.

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 1:31:18 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Which characters were your favorites?

I settled for watching it so I don't have any gameplay bolstering my connections to the characters. Still though, Zeke felt like the closest to a Xeno1 character. Vandham was cool too, it would have been nice if he got to stick around longer.
Zeke was probably my favorite. When I unlocked him I maind him for a good stretch of the game. Had some good combos going with he, Nia, and Morag. Also really liked Poppi in the story, less in the gameplay. Also I never used Nia as a blade either; she was too valuable as a healer in my party

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BakonBitz
02/23/23 1:47:34 PM
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In terms of Malos's motivation being weak, I think it's just because of Amalthus. When he was awoken, he saw that Amalthus hated the world, so he felt his purpose for being awakened by him was to destroy the world. It ended up becoming instinct and over hundreds of years after being defeated by the other Aegis (Mythra) he developed human emotion and wondered if it really was his purpose in life. In the end after seeing all his friends lose their lives over his and Jin's plan, he decided he was "a horrible monster far beyond saving" and hated himself.

it kind of makes him tragic in a way.

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EndOfDiscOne
02/23/23 1:48:07 PM
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I'm not a tech guy, but I just saw this topic about how XC3 has better graphics than the others

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/80352031

I don't have an eye for this stuff, but I feel like XCX is still the best looking. Or XC:DE, of which I've only played Future Connected.

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NoxObscuras
02/23/23 1:51:58 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I'm not a tech guy, but I just saw this topic about how XC3 has better graphics than the others

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/80352031

I don't have an eye for this stuff, but I feel like XCX is still the best looking. Or XC:DE, of which I've only played Future Connected.
XCX was definitely the best graphics of the series, but XC3 does look much better than 1 and 2.

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Tappor
02/23/23 1:59:06 PM
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XC3 looks better imo but the switch is way more prone to shitting itself over it because of that. It gets really bad in areas like Erythia Sea >_>

On topic though, glad you saw it through, XC2 is one of those games with a mediocre first half (setup) followed by an incredible second half

Blue_Inigo posted...
Did you shit your pants when Malos pulled out a fucking MONADO
I'll never forget the chills that sent through me, lmao

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ellis123
02/23/23 1:59:06 PM
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I wish that people would understand the difference between art style/direction and fidelity/quality. Graphically Xeno 3 absolutely is the best, but as for style there is a lot of personal preference that can lead to different interpretations.

Anyways, Xeno 2 is amazing. It's probably my least favorite of the bunch but it really shows how good the series is when I would still say it's a 9/10 game.

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Kaiganeer
02/23/23 2:01:49 PM
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the gacha was unnecessary bullshit and having field skills essentially tied behind rng in a game that's all about exploration was an awful design decision, but it was a great game in spite of its flaws

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EndOfDiscOne
02/23/23 2:12:58 PM
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How good is the XC2 soundtrack tho. Worth the price of admission for that alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6WKA_7LZHI

I can never decide if I prefer the soundtrack of XC1 or XC2. 1 has better melancholy stuff like Fallen Arm and Eryth Sea, but XC2 is more consistently great.

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EndOfDiscOne
02/23/23 2:15:27 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Probably not

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 2:19:08 PM
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XC3 just looks choppy. Like I have Juniper in my party for instance and watching her in a cutscene her character model just looks choppy. Not sure how else to describe it. Like the fidelity of her hair maybe? Whereas most of the characters looked relatively smooth in XC2

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 2:21:27 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
In terms of Malos's motivation being weak, I think it's just because of Amalthus. When he was awoken, he saw that Amalthus hated the world, so he felt his purpose for being awakened by him was to destroy the world. It ended up becoming instinct and over hundreds of years after being defeated by the other Aegis (Mythra) he developed human emotion and wondered if it really was his purpose in life. In the end after seeing all his friends lose their lives over his and Jin's plan, he decided he was "a horrible monster far beyond saving" and hated himself.

it kind of makes him tragic in a way.
Yeah you have a point when you analyze it deeper. At face value though, evil for the sake of being evil is never good motivation imo. Amalthus you see why he was the way he was. Jin was pretty great through his entire arc. Felt bad for the other members of Torna. Malos at the end I just wanted him to die lol

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Super_Slash
02/23/23 2:25:56 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Best track in 2 is the World Tree theme.
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Kaldrenthebold
02/23/23 2:30:55 PM
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I have less than zero interest in XC2, as the art style and a bunch of other stuff utterly turns me off. Will I be able to play 3 without bothering with 2? I enjoyed 1 a fair bit.

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BakonBitz
02/23/23 2:42:25 PM
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
I have less than zero interest in XC2, as the art style and a bunch of other stuff utterly turns me off. Will I be able to play 3 without bothering with 2? I enjoyed 1 a fair bit.
I think it's possible. 3 delves a lot into lore established in 2 so you may want to at least read/watch a plot synopsis of 2. Or at least a bulletpoint of the really important stuff. Especially if you plan on going into 3's DLC at any point.

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 2:44:46 PM
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
I have less than zero interest in XC2, as the art style and a bunch of other stuff utterly turns me off. Will I be able to play 3 without bothering with 2? I enjoyed 1 a fair bit.
Youre missing out on a great game if you skip 2 tbh

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Super_Slash
02/23/23 2:47:24 PM
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
I have less than zero interest in XC2, as the art style and a bunch of other stuff utterly turns me off. Will I be able to play 3 without bothering with 2? I enjoyed 1 a fair bit.
2 is the best in the series, while 3 is probably the worst.
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FurryPhilosifer
02/23/23 2:53:38 PM
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I just think Nia is neat.

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 3:03:27 PM
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FurryPhilosifer posted...
I just think Nia is neat.
If you like Nia you should check out Mio in 3

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NoxObscuras
02/23/23 3:05:41 PM
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
I have less than zero interest in XC2, as the art style and a bunch of other stuff utterly turns me off. Will I be able to play 3 without bothering with 2? I enjoyed 1 a fair bit.
You can still understand most of 3 if you skip 2. But 3 takes elements from both 1 and 2, so some things may be lost on you.

Super_Slash posted...
2 is the best in the series, while 3 is probably the worst.
You are definitely in the minority for thinking that lol.

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Kaldrenthebold
02/23/23 4:09:23 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
I think it's possible. 3 delves a lot into lore established in 2 so you may want to at least read/watch a plot synopsis of 2. Or at least a bulletpoint of the really important stuff. Especially if you plan on going into 3's DLC at any point.

Yeah I heard it would be easy just need some background lore but otherwise it is okay to skip, figured this would be a topic to gather more information on it cause the 3rd does intrigue me for toning down the...style of 2.

MaxEffingBemis posted...
Youre missing out on a great game if you skip 2 tbh

I've heard the opposite, but it seems like the game is very love it or hate it. I've watched a bunch of it and it looks insufferable to me, I'm very much not interested.

Super_Slash posted...
2 is the best in the series, while 3 is probably the worst.

I definitely heard the opposite of this.

For reference, my favorite is XCX but I fear we will never get a sequel to that one.

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EndOfDiscOne
02/23/23 4:12:03 PM
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
I definitely heard the opposite of this.
I think I've heard every ranking possible.

I'm only halfway through 3 but my current ranking is 1 > 2 > 3 > X

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Super_Slash
02/23/23 5:15:14 PM
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
I definitely heard the opposite of this.
The story of 3 makes no sense really. Most of the characters suck too.
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Zeph
02/23/23 5:17:14 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Apparently XC3 ties the two games together even further.
god i want to comment on this which is partially my disappointment with XC3 but it would be spoilers for that game lol

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 5:17:25 PM
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Super_Slash posted...
The story of 3 makes no sense really. Most of the characters suck too.
Hey I kinda like the characters. Eunie is the boss. Everyone else is kinda eh. But Im only in chapter 4 and only Taion has had his character arc so far

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ViewtifulJoe
02/23/23 5:40:03 PM
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I liked the characters in 3 when they were all together and had each other to bounce off of but as individuals I don't really vibe with any of them.

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pauIie
02/23/23 5:43:23 PM
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absolutely hated this game

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NoxObscuras
02/23/23 5:43:23 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I think I've heard every ranking possible.

I'm only halfway through 3 but my current ranking is 1 > 2 > 3 > X
My ranking is 3 > 1 > X > 2

I don't hate 2, but it didn't top any of the other games for me.

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Blue_Inigo
02/23/23 5:44:20 PM
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Did you realize in the hot bath scene that Nia was a Blade all along? A Flesh Eater no less? The former took a long while to realize. Makes some of her words and actions have a new layer. She's got a real fucked up backstory too.

I need to replay this game

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 6:29:36 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Did you realize in the hot bath scene that Nia was a Blade all along? A Flesh Eater no less? The former took a long while to realize. Makes some of her words and actions have a new layer. She's got a real fucked up backstory too.

I need to replay this game
I cant remember if i did or not. I may have spoiled myself accidentally that she was. Or that she was a blade was a dead giveaway by the way that mythra reacted

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BakonBitz
02/23/23 6:37:11 PM
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Zeph posted...
god i want to comment on this which is partially my disappointment with XC3 but it would be spoilers for that game lol
I'll just put it this way...the blatant connections/crossovers is stuff that the main game of 3 doesn't do a lot of. But thematically it very much does take from the previous 2.

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 6:37:47 PM
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Supposedly the DLC is gonna have both Shulk and Rex so thats cool

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MorganTJ
02/23/23 6:38:31 PM
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For me its X>3>1>2. I do like 2s main party but the lack of visual cohesion between all the guest-designed Blades, slower-paced combat, and gacha mechanics drop it to the bottom for me. Torna was a step up though.
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Arcanine2009
02/23/23 6:39:18 PM
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I'm not about to read all these replies... Didnou play the Torna DLC story? It's worth it.

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 6:45:13 PM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
I'm not about to read all these replies... Didnou play the Torna DLC story? It's worth it.
No Im thinking about it though. I just jumped straight back into chapter 4 of XC3

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MaxEffingBemis
02/23/23 6:46:37 PM
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Btw what was everyones favorite blades? I personally loved Kassandra. Also I thought Brighid had the best design in the game

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