Current Events > Kyle Rittenhouse in trouble once more.

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Too bad the people who attacked him didn't think of that too, eh? Like, why would you ever try to attack someone who is open carrying?

Don't care.

Because they thought he was an active shooter after he killed someone.

I'm agreeing with you lol

And he probably thought these were more people who were going to attack him and possibly pull a gun on him. Which is exactly what happened

And he probably thought these were more people who were going to attack him and possibly pull a gun on him. Which is exactly what happened

Which is why his being there as an untrained, plain-clothes civilian with a gun was a bad idea that endangered lives.

Glad we agree.

probably thought

shut the fuck up

Considering that's exactly what happened, maybe you should take your own advice.

No, what happened is he probably thought he was some kind of Billy Badass and wanted to play sheriff with the adults and when shit hit real he started panic shooting like the scared little bitch boy he is.

miss me with that bullshit

Yes, Gaige being there with a gun was a bad idea

Except he didn't panic shoot at all lol he only shot once people tried to murder him

It was.

But his was concealed and wasn't drawn until after Kyle shot people.

It was.

But his was concealed and wasn't drawn until after Kyle shot people.

And after chasing him down while Kyle was retreating. Please don't leave out facts

Is it wise to attack someone that's carrying a rifle? Kyle is responsible for the results of his actions that night and the same is true of the people attacking him.

Right. After he killed someone they thought he was an active shooter and tried to apprehend him. Glad we got the facts straightened out.

No, it's not wise to attack someone who you think is a mass shooter who has a gun. You should abide by the run, hide, fight principle.

But I don't think it's morally objectionable to try and stop a mass shooter.

My going into this situation in plain clothes with an open carry gun might endanger lives"

The only lives he endangered were those of the people who attacked him. That's literally what a weapon for self-defense is meant to do. It served its purpose perfectly.

The best defense would have been not to go there in the first place.

Why wouldn't he have taken that opportunity and kill them all instead of retreating?

The only lives he endangered were those of the people who attacked him. That's literally what a weapon for self-defense is meant to do. It served its purpose perfectly.

Definitely a lot of people here who still don't know the facts of the case

The best defense would have been not to go there in the first place.

Does that apply to the people that he was defending himself against too?

If Gaige had his gun pointed at Kyle first, why didn't Gaige take the opportunity to kill him if you guys keep saying that Kyle was being chased down by a mob that wanted to kill him?

"defends there lives"

Does it matter? We're talking about Kyle. Stay on topic. Or are you incapable of defending him without resorting to whataboutism?

We are talking about Kyle. Those other people are an important factor in the events of that night. He didn't defend himself against nobody, he didn't chase himself, these things didn't occur in a vacuum against shadows.

You understand that it is possible to acknowledge that, to the letter of the law, he legally defended himself while also condemning his actions and presence there, right?

I feel like your side is more incapable of that than the one you're accusing of it.

If you were just attacked by a group of people and had to resort to using your rifle to defend yourself from them because they wouldn't stop relentlessly attacking you then another person comes up from behind you and draws a gun on you, why would you wait to see what happens first?

You don't even play video games that way, and Kyle is expected to do with his own life and safety? Of course he shot the dude pointing a gun at him in that scenario. Only a fool wouldn't.

You understand that it is possible to acknowledge that, to the letter of the law, he legally defended himself while also condemning his actions and presence there, right?

I only condemn his intent for being there, but that's irrelevant because it sounds like he was just being a pretty upstanding person while he was there. He was putting out fires and helping people and some people attacked him for it. Eyewitnesses can't find fault with his actions, the law can't find fault with his actions, and even one of the people he shot can't make a compelling case for why he should be harangued based on his actions that night. Sure, criticize the guy for his grifting after the fact, criticize him for his reasons for being there at all, but while he was there he did nothing wrong.

He's under age who obtain a deadly weapon illegally and passed his curfew, he's a criminal and a murderer

Seems like that situation would never happen to me because I wouldn't go to a protest and LARP around as a cop while open carrying a gun. Seems like that would be dangerous to both yourself and everyone there.

The expectation is that he not LARP as a cop with a gun in a situation where he could endanger himself and others.

Sounds like you're a naive person who will readily believe the first thing you hear without a hint of critical thought.

I actually don't. I adjusted my views based on the release of more information and on the occurrence of the court case. Normally when facts present themselves you're supposed to adjust your views, not ignore the new information because it doesn't coincide with your preconceptions.