Current Events > It's fucking bullshit that followers can die in Fallout 3.

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I remember way back in the day I recruited Star Paladin Cross, and she very stupidly freed a Super Mutant Behemoth to fight it (because the AI is stupid) and the damn thing just whacked her and crunched her in one hit.

After that I never got any other followers

The first time I had a follower die on me, I reloaded the save, dismissed them, and never played with a follower again. I can't be bothered to keep that shit on my mind while fighting.

Except Fawkes. Fawkes can follow me anywhere.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

The first time I had a follower die on me, I reloaded the save, dismissed them, and never played with a follower again. I can't be bothered to keep that shit on my mind while fighting.

Except Fawkes. Fawkes can follow me anywhere.

I either avoid interacting with Fawkes or shoo him away after the Enclave base because I don't want to hurt him.

They can die in fallout 1 and 2 too. Prob worse in those games because you can accidently shoot your companions during an action if they are next to the target lol. Killed mine lots of times when I used submachine guns

Oh yeah companions can accidently kill each other too

Sounds like you need to play A Tale of Two Wastelands.

I'm in the same class that doesn't use a follower, same with games like Far Cry. They shouldn't perma-die, they should respawn at your house and need like 2 full days to recover and then they can be used again.

Doom_Art posted...

I either avoid interacting with Fawkes or shoo him away after the Enclave base because I don't want to hurt him.

Fawkes had a stupid high amount of health, so I was never really too concerned about him.

Ratchetrockon posted...

They can die in fallout 1 and 2 too. Prob worse in those games because you can accidently kill your companions during a round lol. Killed mine lots of times when I used submachine guns

Oh yeah companions can accidently kill each other too

Fallout's version of Dogmeat canonically dies from walking into one of the last level's forcefields which is an actual pain in the ass thing in that game.

And yeah, I definitely had to reload a few times because either my or a companion's burst fire completely obliterated one of my dudes.

Get Broken Steel installed before finding Dogmeat, then watch as he becomes nigh invulnerable and able to tank several mini nukes to the face without breaking a sweat. Also works with Fawkes and Sergeant RL-3, but not any of the other Fallout 3 companions sadly.

Shadowplay posted...

Sounds like you need to play A Tale of Two Wastelands.

How does it work? Like does it try to frame it as "Oh the Courier went to the Capital Wasteland to do some stuff" or is just like "oh okay you switch over to playing F3 now"?

MabusIncarnate posted...

I'm in the same class that doesn't use a follower, same with games like Far Cry. They shouldn't perma-die, they should respawn at your house and need like 2 full days to recover and then they can be used again.

The mercenary buddies in Far Cry 2 gave me such an absurd amount of anxiety because I was constantly paranoid about them doing dumb shit and getting themselves killed when they showed up

Doom_Art posted...

How does it work? Like does it try to frame it as "Oh the Courier went to the Capital Wasteland to do some stuff" or is just like "oh okay you switch over to playing F3 now"?

You play through Fallout 3 as normal, but can travel to the Mojave via train and when you do that the first time then the New Vegas intro happens

It's next to impossible for enemy NPCs to kill Fawkes, at least. I'm pretty sure one of the patches made Dogmeat nigh-immortal as well.

Agent_Stroud posted...

Get Broken Steel installed before finding Dogmeat, then watch as he becomes nigh invulnerable and able to tank several mini nukes to the face without breaking a sweat. Also works with Fawkes and Sergeant RL-3, but not any of the other Fallout 3 companions sadly.

lol, is that intentional? I do remember Dogmeat being able to take a mini-nuke to the face and a thought it was a bug.

Wait until you play 1 and 2 where, not only can they die, but they can very easily accidentally kill you too

UnholyMudcrab posted...

The first time I had a follower die on me, I reloaded the save, dismissed them, and never played with a follower again. I can't be bothered to keep that shit on my mind while fighting.

Except Fawkes. Fawkes can follow me anywhere.

Fawkes died as a companion on one of my playthroughs. Don't remember the circumstances but I think it involved an encounter with a Super Mutant Master

masterpug53 posted...

It's next to impossible for enemy NPCs to kill Fawkes, at least. I'm pretty sure one of the patches made Dogmeat nigh-immortal as well.

Depending on Dogmeats level, he has between 2,500-15,000 hp if you have broken steel.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Dogmeat_(Fallout_3)?so=search

I like permanent losses in video games now. Makes things have more meaning.

wanderingshade posted...

lol, is that intentional? I do remember Dogmeat being able to take a mini-nuke to the face and a thought it was a bug.

Its more of Bethesda not being good at maths than a bug, as the added algorithm for calculating your companions health and damage threshold is hilariously way off for the aforementioned companions, while the others function as intended.

Agent_Stroud posted...

Its more of Bethesda not being good at maths than a bug, as the added algorithm for calculating your companions health and damage threshold is hilariously way off for the aforementioned companions, while the others function as intended.

Makes sense I guess, when you find Dogmeat at like level 9 and he takes 8 mini-nukes before he goes aggro.