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Noumas
02/12/23 9:32:54 PM
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Liam Cunningham added so much to the character, he's pretty much the only reason why I like the character. In the books I was completely disinterested in how Davos was borderline in love with his lord king Stannis and how he'd follow him to the ends of the earth even despite some misgivings.

But show davos was great and extremely likable. They did a good decision having the person who teaches him to read be Stannis daughter. It's cliche but it works and is heartwarming
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lilORANG
02/12/23 9:37:29 PM
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Yeah, Davos was my favorite character by the end of the show. Everyone else had become insufferable lol.

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pegusus123456
02/12/23 9:38:44 PM
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I quite like book Davos, but Cunningham definitely adds to the role.

And you're right about Shireen teaching him to read being a great addition.

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VampireCoyote
02/12/23 9:40:29 PM
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book davos is good too

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lilORANG
02/12/23 9:41:03 PM
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Stannis is the king of jobbers. I liked his actor trying his best but the dude is just pathetic in the show, despite constantly being called the most competent military leader left in Westeros.

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UnholyMudcrab
02/12/23 9:43:02 PM
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Stannis hasn't even died in the books, so Davos hasn't really had all that much of a chance to grow

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CyricZ
02/12/23 9:44:20 PM
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Well the greatest example of this is Tyrion.

Book Tyrion - Well-read but deeply unlikeable little troll man. Every single person he meets reminds him how damn ugly is.

Show Tyrion - Gorgeous and charismatic Peter Dinklage.

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pegusus123456
02/12/23 9:44:44 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Stannis is the king of jobbers. I liked his actor trying his best but the dude is just pathetic in the show, despite constantly being called the most competent military leader left in Westeros.
They fucked him up by having him compromise his principles and burn his daughter. I'd even say that having him enthusiastically fuck Melisandre was a mistake. Stannis in the book is interesting because he's all duty. It's only implied that he banged Melisandre to make the shadow baby and it's very easy to imagine him begrudgingly doing it.

And in the book, when someone says he might die, he tells them that he'll avenge his death and put Shireen on the throne or die trying.

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Noumas
02/12/23 9:51:01 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I quite like book Davos, but Cunningham definitely adds to the role.

And you're right about Shireen teaching him to read being a great addition.
He's just so white bread though. His entire existence is just to provide a viewpoint chapter to what stannis is up to, and no one likes stannis
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pegusus123456
02/12/23 9:52:11 PM
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Noumas posted...
no one likes stannis
I bet you think Cersei's smart

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UnholyMudcrab
02/12/23 9:54:48 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Well the greatest example of this is Tyrion.

Book Tyrion - Well-read but deeply unlikeable little troll man. Every single person he meets reminds him how damn ugly is.

Show Tyrion - Gorgeous and charismatic Peter Dinklage.
Book Tyrion - Loses most of his nose at the Blackwater, making him somehow even more ugly

Show Tyrion - Just a scratch. If anything, it makes him look even better.

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pegusus123456
02/12/23 9:56:04 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Book Tyrion - Loses most of his nose at the Blackwater, making him somehow even more ugly

Show Tyrion - Just a scratch. If anything, it makes him look even better.
You can't blame them for that really, the effort to remove the entire nose of a main character every time he's on screen is a bit much.

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CyricZ
02/12/23 9:57:23 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
You can't blame them for that really, the effort to remove the entire nose of a main character every time he's on screen is a bit much.
Nah man you only gotta do it once.

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Noumas
02/12/23 9:57:55 PM
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I want to say on paper stannis sounds like an intriguing character with a surprisingly complex dilemma but the books are on paper -__-'

I think its the culty religion portion and the fact that he really buys into meli's sweet talk prophecies that he's "the one" Neo style. I mean come on its no different than those losers who go to Crystal Ball fortune tellers and are like "she said I would meet the man of my dreams and be prosperous in my career!"
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pegusus123456
02/12/23 10:00:17 PM
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Noumas posted...
I think its the culty religion portion and the fact that he really buys into meli's sweet talk prophecies that he's "the one" Neo style
I didn't get that at all, I always interpreted it as him thinking that it's absolute bullshit but going along with it because her magic is helpful.

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lilORANG
02/12/23 10:01:36 PM
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He probably also believes it a little bit bc he is genuinely the rightful heir to the throne >_>

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dameon_reaper
02/14/23 7:21:34 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Well the greatest example of this is Tyrion.

Book Tyrion - Well-read but deeply unlikeable little troll man. Every single person he meets reminds him how damn ugly is.

Show Tyrion - Gorgeous and charismatic Peter Dinklage.

Thing is, people who read the book love Tyrion. Peter Dinklage just resonated with him so well.
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dameon_reaper
02/14/23 7:23:42 PM
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Noumas posted...
I want to say on paper stannis sounds like an intriguing character with a surprisingly complex dilemma but the books are on paper -__-'

I think its the culty religion portion and the fact that he really buys into meli's sweet talk prophecies that he's "the one" Neo style. I mean come on its no different than those losers who go to Crystal Ball fortune tellers and are like "she said I would meet the man of my dreams and be prosperous in my career!"

I mean, let's be honest though, out of all the gods, theirs is probably the one with the most merit and the prophecy has its claws in the whole series. It just happens that, even though we dont' know yet, Stannis isn't in that prophecy.
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Stannis_Joplin
02/14/23 7:30:26 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Stannis is the king of jobbers. I liked his actor trying his best but the dude is just pathetic in the show, despite constantly being called the most competent military leader left in Westeros.
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Gobstoppers12
02/14/23 7:33:35 PM
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Davos is one of very, very few genuinely good people in the Game of Thrones universe.

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jumi
02/14/23 9:01:56 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Davos is one of very, very few genuinely good people in the Game of Thrones universe.

A former smuggler who follows a heretical fool.

He also leads his children to their deaths because of that heretical fool and STILL follows him afterward.

He's like Anakin Skywalker without the charisma or cool powers.

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Gobstoppers12
02/14/23 9:03:39 PM
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jumi posted...
He's like Anakin Skywalker
Now that's a take I never thought I'd see.

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jumi
02/14/23 10:10:58 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Now that's a take I never thought I'd see.

  • Followed an asshole.
  • Got burned.
  • Continued to follow said asshole.

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DarthAragorn
02/14/23 10:12:34 PM
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Noumas posted...
He's just so white bread though. His entire existence is just to provide a viewpoint chapter to what stannis is up to, and no one likes stannis
How does it feel to be fucking wrong

Stannis is low-key the funniest dude in the entire series

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Revelation34
02/15/23 1:02:51 AM
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jumi posted...


A former smuggler who follows a heretical fool.

He also leads his children to their deaths because of that heretical fool and STILL follows him afterward.

He's like Anakin Skywalker without the charisma or cool powers.


The children wouldn't have died if he had been in charge of the battle.

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Seaman_Prime
02/15/23 1:20:50 AM
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show Davos completely lost me when he suddenly became Jon Snow's biggest fan and willing to use magic to bring him back for raisons. But I guess they didn't know what else to do with him since they cut out Wyman fucking Manderly.
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jumi
02/15/23 5:29:27 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
The children wouldn't have died if he had been in charge of the battle.

They would have lost that battle anyway with the way Tyrion rigged the bay. The only winning play was either not to fight or not to use ships.

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pegusus123456
02/15/23 5:35:12 AM
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jumi posted...
They would have lost that battle anyway with the way Tyrion rigged the bay. The only winning play was either not to fight or not to use ships.
No, I think Stannis was actually winning until the Tyrell army came and joined the defense.

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008Zulu
02/15/23 5:44:38 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Stannis hasn't even died in the books, so Davos hasn't really had all that much of a chance to grow
Didn't Ramsay send a note to Jon taunting him about Stannis's death? Offscreen death.

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pegusus123456
02/15/23 5:47:23 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Didn't Ramsay send a note to Jon taunting him about Stannis's death? Offscreen death.
For various reasons, it's commonly believed that the letter is bullshit and possibly not even sent by Ramsay.

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008Zulu
02/15/23 6:00:10 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
For various reasons, it's commonly believed that the letter is bullshit and possibly not even sent by Ramsay.
Who is the letter speculated to have been sent by, and for what reason?

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UnholyMudcrab
02/15/23 6:38:21 PM
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I'm of the opinion that the letter was actually written by Ramsay, but he's bullshitting or going off of incorrect information. I see the arguments for Mance, but I don't really see what Mance has to gain by doing it.

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008Zulu
02/15/23 9:04:06 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Interesting write up. It could be turned in to something interesting, but part of me thinks that due to the time difference in the book's releases, George Martin may just have forgotten or misremembered key points. I wonder if we will ever find out?

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DarthAragorn
02/15/23 9:14:27 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Wyman Manderly is my favorite just because him being a big deal and orchestrating this whole Northern Conspiracy to remove the Freys and Boltons and restore the Starks is a significantly better plot than just some rando old lady telling a girl the north remembers then getting murdered.

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