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Punished_Blinx
02/09/23 6:41:11 PM
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What was Bioware's best game?










In your opinion?

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MarcoRubio
02/09/23 6:42:55 PM
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Shattered Steel

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alphagamble
02/09/23 6:45:25 PM
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I love ME2

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Punished_Blinx
02/09/23 6:47:02 PM
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Yeah I think overall it is ME2 for me too. I don't really have any gripes with that game. Love almost everything about it. Basically just wish the crew interacted with each other more.

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NoxObscuras
02/09/23 6:51:38 PM
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KotOR

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Heartomaton
02/09/23 6:55:03 PM
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The only game of theirs that I've ever even touched is Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood... and I didn't get more than like twenty minutes into it.

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Dakimakura
02/09/23 6:56:20 PM
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Jade Empire was just one of those games that felt really good to play. It was just so naturally good. Plus the visual for the time were insanely good. Created a great atmosphere too. Could have been up there with one of the greatest of all-time if it wasn't so easy and lacking in content.

I wasn't really that into any other Bioware game. There were just alright. Jade Empire was easily the best one.

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JuanCarlos1
02/09/23 7:01:15 PM
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Oh crap I voted anthem cause I misread that as last game lmao. Add 1 to ME 2.

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Punished_Blinx
02/09/23 7:03:39 PM
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I loved Jade Empire. It's a bit of an overlooked gem.

I think the biggest thing was that it was right before when WRPG's became super popular on consoles (the 360 specifically). It's not tied to a franchise which means less people look back on it too.

If things were slightly different yeah it would have a bigger legacy. It was a great game.

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Funkydog
02/09/23 7:14:54 PM
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Jade Empire was fantastic and I am sad we never saw anything more with it.

I think the Dragon Age series or BG2 has to take it for me though. I will die on the hill that DA2 is a good game, despite its issues.

I'd probably go with BG2 though, as it is what formed my love of RPGs and something I still occasionally go back to do a playthrough with some odd class combination with mods jacked up to the nine hells and back. Sword Coast Stratagems, or whatever the mod is called, go!

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MarcyWarcy
02/09/23 7:25:25 PM
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Neverwinter Nights. The modding capability completely blows anything else they ever worked on out of the water because not only do you get a fun game engine trying to emulate a simplified dnd 3.5, you also get almost endless amounts of content from pen and paper adaptions to original stories and settings to persistant online worlds like little mmos
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Pitlord_Special
02/09/23 7:25:39 PM
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I'd say DA:O. It felt like they really elevated the CRPG experience with that one and playing it for the first time when it came out was something special. (just thinking about it makes me want to play it again even though I've beaten it 3 times).

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Funkydog
02/09/23 7:28:23 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
Neverwinter Nights. The modding capability completely blows anything else they ever worked on out of the water because not only do you get a fun game engine trying to emulate a simplified dnd 3.5, you also get almost endless amounts of content from pen and paper adaptions to original stories and settings to persistant online worlds like little mmos
The modding capabilities of NWN blow pretty much anything bar Skyrim out of the water tbh.

So many fantastic mods were made, and there are still online "mini mmo's" being run for a sizeable (if small compared to actual mmo's) communities.

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Punished_Blinx
02/09/23 7:30:12 PM
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I miss Bioware. Can't believe it has been nearly 10 years since I have played a Bioware game I actually liked. They used to be my favorite developer.

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synth_real
02/09/23 7:45:50 PM
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I really loved ME2 when it first came out, but when I replayed it a few years ago, the gameplay kinda fell flat. Most missions felt like a linear corridor connecting rooms with waist-level obstacles where it became immediately obvious a fight was going to occur. My favourite part of replaying it was probing Uranus. The story still holds up, but to be honest that's secondary to gameplay for me.

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Vyrulisse
02/09/23 7:48:00 PM
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Baldur's Gate 2 and it's not even really close.

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kinetika_
02/09/23 7:48:39 PM
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Baldur's Gate 2, easily, with Mass Effect 1 a close second.
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UnfairRepresent
02/09/23 7:49:16 PM
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Dragon Age: Origins

Neverwinter Nights is an underrated 2nd though as another user said. The user made mods were better than the main game

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Vyrulisse
02/09/23 7:50:07 PM
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The campaign for Neverwinter Nights was god awful which brought it down a lot in my estimation.

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UnfairRepresent
02/09/23 7:52:10 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The campaign for Neverwinter Nights was god awful which brought it down a lot in my estimation.
I liked it :(

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kinetika_
02/09/23 7:57:13 PM
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Mass Effect 2 must be everyone's first ME because that was the worst of the three lol. ME1 was an epic story and ME3 had the best gameplay, and multiplayer was awesome. ME2 was so hollow to me. The Collectors were cool, and Legion was one of my favorite characters... but the rest of the game was meh.
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Smackems
02/09/23 8:00:24 PM
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I love all three mass effects equally but I'll choose 1

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pfh1001
02/09/23 8:01:23 PM
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I put Origins slightly ahead of ME2.
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Funkydog
02/09/23 8:01:54 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The campaign for Neverwinter Nights was god awful which brought it down a lot in my estimation.
The expansions were a lot of fun though.

Same with NWN2 - Mask of the Betrayer has a fantastic story.

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UnfairRepresent
02/09/23 8:02:22 PM
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kinetika_ posted...
Mass Effect 2 must be everyone's first ME because that was the worst of the three lol. ME1 was an epic story and ME3 had the best gameplay, and multiplayer was awesome. ME2 was so hollow to me. The Collectors were cool, and Legion was one of my favorite characters... but the rest of the game was meh.
ME2 had the weakest main plot

But the squad was cool. Every character was different and each had a unique loyalty mission (Plus a lot of a recruitment missions) and a lot of dialogue throughout the main quest if you brought them with you.

There was also a ton of fun side missions

I can totally see why it's so beloved despite prefering ME1 personally

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Nosferatu_Zodd
02/09/23 8:04:47 PM
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ME3. Such an underrated game simply because the last few minutes are underwhelming.

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boxoto
02/09/23 8:05:12 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
Jade Empire was easily the best one.


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Punished_Blinx
02/09/23 8:07:10 PM
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kinetika_ posted...
Mass Effect 2 must be everyone's first ME because that was the worst of the three lol. ME1 was an epic story and ME3 had the best gameplay, and multiplayer was awesome. ME2 was so hollow to me. The Collectors were cool, and Legion was one of my favorite characters... but the rest of the game was meh.

Nah I was into ME since it was revealed (even lurked the Bioware Forums all the way up to release) and still overall like ME2 the best.

I am one who likes party members and the smaller scale stuff the most on ME and most Bioware games. That's what ME2 is all about.

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UnfairRepresent
02/09/23 8:07:17 PM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...
ME3. Such an underrated game simply because the last few minutes are underwhelming.
More like the first and last 2 hours are utterly shit

I agree that most of the stuff inbetween is fantastic but you can't just handwave the terrible opening and legit candidate for an unrionic "worst ending ever" as a simple 'underwhelming'

I can't say "it's better than ME2 if you just ignore the start, then turn the game off before the last mission and make up a better ending in your head." that's crazy.

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xlr_big-coop
02/09/23 8:18:31 PM
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Me2. Best companions and interactions, short but sweet missions, world building, tons of replayability, etc. It even has an ending where joker takes up the mantle if Shepard dies.

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Nosferatu_Zodd
02/09/23 8:58:58 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
More like the first and last 2 hours are utterly shit

I agree that most of the stuff inbetween is fantastic but you can't just handwave the terrible opening and legit candidate for an unrionic "worst ending ever" as a simple 'underwhelming'

I can't say "it's better than ME2 if you just ignore the start, then turn the game off before the last mission and make up a better ending in your head." that's crazy.

Meh.

I beat ME3 and was thoroughly satisfied with my 50+ hours.

Then I took to the internet and saw everyone calling it the most disappointing sequel ever because of the ending.

I just don't agree.

I'm enjoying it even more now my second time with the Legendary Edition. It has been the best of the 3 in almost every regard.

Main story is almost as intriguing as 1, the party is almost as great as 2, the gameplay is unparalleled. Best overall imo. The last hour or two aren't likely to change that for me.

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MarcyWarcy
02/09/23 9:06:54 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The campaign for Neverwinter Nights was god awful which brought it down a lot in my estimation.

It's not really the draw of the game. The main appeal was always modding and the ability to have a dungeon master that can do things like control npcs and spawn encounters and stuff for you while you play. It's why it has the same name as the online gold box AD&D game from the early 90s. The main campaign is kind of like a free pack in example of what you can do in the engine.

But honestly, I personally have never been able to understand why people play Bioware games for plot, so that may be why I'm biased? They like to stick a lot of it in things they make but have never been good at actually writing it, and I would extend that to everything they made except BG2 and DA:O. Mass Effect in particularly is a long and winding tale about interesting characters that almost all miss their potential.

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