Current Events > Landlord shows up during 2yo's party DEMANDING rent early

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codey posted...

If she wants them to pay rent early, the landlord is 100% in the wrong. If the tenants haven't been paying rent, both they and the landlord are in the wrong.

What I don't get is why anyone is certain that it's one way or the other, because the video makes no mention of early payments so none of us can be sure. But here we are and more than half this topic is people acting certain they know what's going on, whether that's the landlord wanting early payment or the tenants being squatters.

Haven't we seen enough 15 second clips out of context or where the given context is wrong by now to realize we don't actually know what's happening in or around this video?

Even if they are 6 months late on rent, this is not the correct way to handle it. Landlord is 100% wrong here, and whatever the tenant is or isn't doing has no relevance to that, period.

DipDipDiver posted...

Even if they are 6 months late on rent, this is not the correct way to handle it. Landlord is 100% wrong here, and whatever the tenant is or isn't doing has no relevance to that, period.

I said the landlord was wrong in either situation. In the scenario where rent isn't paid, though, the tenant is also in the wrong. Not for the confrontation, that's still on the landlord, but for living on someone's property without paying rent. I hate landlords just as much as the next guy, but that doesn't make squatting okay.

codey posted...

I said the landlord was wrong in either situation. In the scenario where rent isn't paid, though, the tenant is also in the wrong. Not for the confrontation, that's still on the landlord, but for living on someone's property without paying rent. I hate landlords just as much as the next guy, but that doesn't make squatting okay.

This topic is about the confrontation, and if they are squatting (which there is zero indication of that tbh) then the landlord is still very much in the wrong here

DipDipDiver posted...

This topic is about the confrontation, and if they are squatting (which there is zero indication of that tbh) then the landlord is still very much in the wrong here

You quoted to me to repeat something I said twice in my three sentence post

Slam the door on the landlord. They deserve no respect and are owed nothing at that point.

codey posted...

You quoted to me to repeat something I said twice in my three sentence post

It seems that some people on here are so tribal that they cant understand that both sides can be in the wrong.

Glob posted...

It seems that some people on here are so tribal that they cant understand that both sides can be in the wrong.

'Course not. Can't have any cognitive dissonance.

codey posted...

You quoted to me to repeat something I said twice in my three sentence post

Because you really seem to want to "both sides" this even though it literally does not matter to this situation whether or not the tenants are late on the rent

cardoor123 posted...

Imagine believing Twitter in that she was asking for the rent 5 days early. No landlord is going to ask twice for early rent and then waste their time by physically going to the house to ask for early rent for the third time. The people living there were clearly not paying rent at all, noticed how they don't even defend themselves when the landlord claim that they pay no rent.

Prove it.

codey posted...

I said the landlord was wrong in either situation. In the scenario where rent isn't paid, though, the tenant is also in the wrong. Not for the confrontation, that's still on the landlord, but for living on someone's property without paying rent. I hate landlords just as much as the next guy, but that doesn't make squatting okay.

Even if they weren't paying rent it wouldn't be squatting.

Joke's on the landlord, thanks to the trespassing and assault at the end of the video those tenants are about to own that house

TMOG posted...

Joke's on the landlord, thanks to the trespassing and assault at the end of the video those tenants are about to own that house

Imagine getting a restraining order preventing you from entering your own property lol

DipDipDiver posted...

Because you really seem to want to "both sides" this even though it literally does not matter to this situation whether or not the tenants are late on the rent

It doesnt matter in terms of determining if the landlord was in the wrong and nobody has claimed that it does.

It does, however, matter as far as whether or not the tenants did anything wrong. Im not sure why people are struggling with that.

I feel like this can't be real

Glob posted...

It doesnt matter in terms of determining if the landlord was in the wrong and nobody has claimed that it does.

It does, however, matter as far as whether or not the tenants did anything wrong. Im not sure why people are struggling with that.

It does not matter whatsoever, because there is nothing the tenants could possibly be doing that would justify this behavior. Saying "well akshually they're both wrong" has zero relevance to what is happening in this video

cardoor123 posted...

Imagine believing Twitter in that she was asking for the rent 5 days early. No landlord is going to ask twice for early rent and then waste their time by physically going to the house to ask for early rent for the third time. The people living there were clearly not paying rent at all, noticed how they don't even defend themselves when the landlord claim that they pay no rent.

On the other hand, all landlords deserve to be tossed in a woodchipper.

DipDipDiver posted...

It does not matter whatsoever, because there is nothing the tenants could possibly be doing that would justify this behavior. Saying "well akshually they're both wrong" has zero relevance to what is happening in this video

It does matter because the tenant's actions are the entire reason the landlord is so pissed off. It doesn't justify the landlord escalating like this, but it's still relevant nonetheless.

cardoor123 posted...

Are we watching the same video? While she was in the wrong for swinging at the end there, fuck people who think that they're above paying rent. If they're not paying rent then they deserve to have their party interrupted. Fucking degenerates can't afford to pay rent but are willing to waste money on a party? Fuck them, get your fucking priorities in check.

Hey there big brain, couple things

Your landlord isn't even allowed to show up unannounced. Bare minimum 24 hours notice in my state, and I have the option to call and request up to 72.

You don't have to pay your rent early just because your landlord wants it early. You pay it by the day in your lease.

All of this paints them squarely in the wrong *before* they show up showing their ass at a toddlers birthday party.

NoxObscuras posted...

It does matter because the tenant's actions are the entire reason the landlord is so pissed off. It doesn't justify the landlord escalating like this, but it's still relevant nonetheless.

It absolutely does not matter at all. Not one iota. The ONLY reason to paint this as a "both sides" scenario is to try and justify the landlord's actions, which is what you are doing when you blame the tenants for how mad the landlord is. There is no justification. It doesn't matter what they did or did not do.

DipDipDiver posted...

It absolutely does not matter at all. Not one iota. The ONLY reason to paint this as a "both sides" scenario is to try and justify the landlord's actions, which is what you are doing when you blame the tenants for how mad the landlord is. There is no justification. It doesn't matter what they did or did not do.

What youre saying is stupid. Both parties can be doing something wrong without it somehow excusing either.

Tenlaar posted...

What youre saying is stupid. Both parties can be doing something wrong without it somehow excusing either.

No, what I'm saying is correct. Both parties can be wrong, but in this instance it makes absofuckinglutely no difference what one of those parties is doing. The tenants can be wrong all day long and it does not change a single bit of the context of what is happening in this video.

Anecdotal, but I've been encouraged to pay rent in advance/early in the past so it's something that does happen.

DipDipDiver posted...

No, what I'm saying is correct. Both parties can be wrong, but in this instance it makes absofuckinglutely no difference what one of those parties is doing. The tenants can be wrong all day long and it does not change a single bit of the context of what is happening in this video.

Okay, but youre saying this as a response to people who are not saying that it changes anything or excuses the landlords behavior. That, in fact, makes it stupid.

Tenlaar posted...

Okay, but youre saying this as a response to people who are not saying that it changes anything or excuses the landlords behavior. That, in fact, makes it stupid.

If it doesn't change anything then what is the purpose of pointing it out? That's what I'm saying. The ONLY reason to make this a both sides issue is if you are trying to justify the landlord's behavior. There is no other purpose behind jumping on the "well but they didn't pay rent" narrative. And that's setting aside that the person making that claim is the person whom we all supposedly acknowledge is acting unreasonably.

This is not a both sides issue, it's a "this landlord is acting in an entirely unreasonable and probably illegal manner" issue.

GeraldDarko posted...

'Course not. Can't have any cognitive dissonance.

i dont think you know what that term means

DipDipDiver posted...

If it doesn't change anything then what is the purpose of pointing it out? That's what I'm saying. The ONLY reason to make this a both sides issue is if you are trying to justify the landlord's behavior.

It only came up because the video claims it's early for rent. Shit gets dissected and discussed. Bitching about people discussing a facet of this is even more pointless than you think the facet is.

TheOtherMike posted...

It only came up because the video claims it's early for rent. Shit gets dissected and discussed. Bitching about people discussing a facet of this is even more pointless than you think the facet is.

Yes I understand how topics work, thank you for your super insightful contribution

TheOtherMike posted...

It only came up because the video claims it's early for rent. Shit gets dissected and discussed. Bitching about people discussing a facet of this is even more pointless than you think the facet is.

This. I only brought it up because what was happening in the video differed from what the caption claimed. It made it stand out. I don't have a vested interest in their drama lol

DipDipDiver posted...

Yes I understand how topics work, thank you for your super insightful contribution

You're welcome. I noticed you were struggling and felt compelled to help.

NoxObscuras posted...

This. I only brought it up because what was happening in the video differed from what the caption claimed. It made it stand out. I don't have a vested interest in their drama lol

Dude nobody has a vested interest, it's just a topic on CE ffs

She's a dipshit.

Sounds like there's tenants there not on the lease.. So instead of going about it legally she comes in like some kinda dumbass mafioso and shoots herself in the foot.

BettyWhite posted...

Sounds like there's tenants there not on the lease..

My takeaway was that she thought the people there for the birthday party lived there full time

TMOG posted...

My takeaway was that she thought the people there for the birthday party lived there full time

That Dave Chappelle crackhead comment has a lot more credence if this is the case.

It's an out-of-context twitter clip. It can mean whatever you want it to mean.

Probably a new landlord. Probably over leveraged her investment and the banks are putting pressure on her and she's stressed. Definitely not the way to handle the situation tho.

I would have let them have there party and slapped them with a eviction notice as soon as I got it. That's more time/money lost on the property, but it comes with the territory if you don't screen your tenants well.

The first of every month is when I have autopay setup for, so I think I do pay early. The only times I dont is when I have to withhold rent to make them fix something.

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DipDipDiver posted...

No, what I'm saying is correct. Both parties can be wrong, but in this instance it makes absofuckinglutely no difference what one of those parties is doing. The tenants can be wrong all day long and it does not change a single bit of the context of what is happening in this video.

It changes the context in that it would mean that the situation isnt what the post claims it is. Nobody is excusing the landlord. Literally everybody has said that whether the rent has been paid on time or not, their actions are inexcusable.

What youre doing is arguing against a position that literally nobody has taken.

Glob posted...

It changes the context in that it would mean that the situation isnt what the post claims it is. Nobody is excusing the landlord. Literally everybody has said that whether the rent has been paid on time or not, their actions are inexcusable.

What youre doing is arguing against a position that literally nobody has taken.

A landlord can't just show up unannounced. That's the issue.

Revelation34 posted...

A landlord can't just show up unannounced. That's the issue.

Im not in any way suggesting that they can.

Revelation34 posted...

A landlord can't just show up unannounced. That's the issue.

That is not some universal truth.

Tenlaar posted...

That is not some universal truth.

Yes, it is.

Revelation34 posted...

A landlord can't just show up unannounced. That's the issue.

of course they can lmao, its their property. They just cant let themselves in when no one is home with no notice

The landlord has to give notice before entering the property, where are yall getting that they have to give notice before even showing up? I'm not finding anything that says that, but everything I'm looking at talks about entering the property or eviction, so maybe I'm just not looking right.

Zeeak4444 posted...

i dont think you know what that term means

the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change.

They are afraid to have any conflicting thoughts. When you explore complex and sensitive ideas, if you don't have conflicting thoughts, you aren't thinking.