Current Events > Dungeons & Dragons Scraps Plans to Update Its Open Game License

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https://gizmodo.com/dungeons-dragons-will-no-longer-deauthorize-its-open-1850041837

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All you folks who said people should just shut up and stop complaining. That their only options were to stop enjoying their hobbies entirely or to suck it up.

Well I don't hate to say I told you so.

I feel like this is one of the most brazen attempts by a corporation to tank their own IP. I don't think they realized who they were dealing with--D&D players read every single detail of every rulebook that has ever been printed. They were always going to read between the lines and find the true intent behind the 'updated' agreement.

It was an attempt to control and monetize every piece of content ever released with even a tangential relationship to D&D. They tried to claim some bullshit about it being "a way to ensure inclusivity" or whatever the fuck that means, but everyone knew they were just making a power grab.

Little did they realize, the power is out of their control now. The third-party content creators they were trying to screw over have proven already that they're more than capable of creating excellent campaigns, supplementary materials, new rules, new classes, etc. on their own.

So why on earth did Hasbro and WotC think they could try to monopolize all of those creators' originality? Didn't one person in that cold, sterile board room think for one second that...if the user agreement became controlling and oppressive, all of those people who provide free promotion and supplementary material for the company IP would just...move on and make their own IP?

Come on, dude. It was always a stupid move.

So far, this response seems to FINALLY be the correct one, but it took too long to get there. My DM is pretty steadfast about finding another system to use once this current D&D campaign is over (we have a couple of months worth of sessions left now) and I can't blame her. It's a 'too little, too late' situation now.

They tanked so much goodwill and trust in such a short period of time that it's going to be very, very hard for them to win it back. They've taken a fall on the same level as what happened to Blizzard when those lawsuits started popping up. Different circumstances, different causes, same level of broken faith and trust.

them going back on it is a pretty big indicator of how tangible an effect the outrage was having/was poised to have. Most companies would just weather the storm and pretend if at all possible

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I feel like this is one of the most brazen attempts by a corporation to tank their own IP

I think hasbro was giving wizards unrealistic goals or something? And then they looked at the licence and went "shit, what happened with blizzard and dota is happening to us" which resulted in this kneejerk idiocy

When did I say that people should shut up and stop complaining?
The complaining made them fear that people should stop buying their products.

It's just very basic corporate greed from a leadership that doesn't understand its customers

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

All you folks who said people should just shut up and stop complaining. That their only options were to stop enjoying their hobbies entirely or to suck it up.

I don't recall doing that.

Foppe posted...

When did I say that people should shut up and stop complaining?
The complaining made them fear that people should stop buying their products.

I think TC is assuming the "usual suspects" would take Hasbro's side, and there's severe cognitive dissonance that we didn't.

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

https://gizmodo.com/dungeons-dragons-will-no-longer-deauthorize-its-open-1850041837

@foppe
@ParanoidObsessive
@Questionmarktarius
@Shadow-Bolt

All you folks who said people should just shut up and stop complaining. That their only options were to stop enjoying their hobbies entirely or to suck it up.

Well I don't hate to say I told you so.

I literally did the opposite of that but ok, whatever you need to feel self righteous

Shadow-Bolt posted...

I literally did the opposite of that but ok, whatever you need to feel self righteous

Maybe... "way to kill the golden goose, dumbasses" really is "sluping", and we actually are the ones in the wrong?
That doesn't seem right, though.

That definitely had extreme React World vibes.

So then the system works?