Current Events > Why didn't people like Bioshock Infinite?

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WingsOfGood posted...

Progressives make wealth tax a thing watch Bezos, Elon, Zuck make a flying city.

Lmao

Unknown5uspect posted...

Lmao

and the people who would go there be conservatives cause they the ones who praise the guys and rally behind them now

pegusus123456 posted...

I'm not sure that's the best example, it's a dude trapped in a giant mech suit with his heart expose. That line seems pretty self-explanatory. <_<

why is he randomly telling you things? Like get away from me while following you around making noise.

IIRC handymen and other bosses (like
the ghost) were going to have a much bigger role in the game, like, fully fledged characters

CyricZ posted...

It's narratively shoddy compared to its predecessors. That's my big one.

It's already been mentioned, but the whole "both sides are bad" message for Founders/Vox is absolutely off-base, to the point where when you're fighting Vox they have the exact same combat units as the Founders, just slightly different weapons.

Plasmids tied into the theming of Bioshock with it being a product of the rare processed material that everyone's fighting over and a result of their objectivist ideals leading to "forbidden" research. Vigors are just... there. Because we needed to have Plasmids, right?

I feel the "infinite worlds" story was the one they wanted to tell, which is why they focused so poorly on the "racism is bad" premise of the setting.

infinite was supposed to be a criticism on the hard right, just like bioshock was about capitalism, but they got cold feet and made a bOtH sIdEs narrative and it feels forced

the_pika posted...

infinite was supposed to be a criticism on the hard right, just like bioshock was about capitalism, but they got cold feet and made a bOtH sIdEs narrative and it feels forced

It feels forced because it is forced, and that's just part of why it's bad.

dioxxys posted...

Maybe a year or two.

We finally got a trailer at least:
https://youtu.be/pmefiirV0JM

Not strictly Bioshock but watch that trailer and tell me that's not BioShock.

oh shit this is awesome. When was this trailer released @dioxxys ?

Video description says about a month ago.

No solid date yet

The demos and trailers for this game would've been infinitely better than the shit we got

For me the plot loses its way around the part with Chen(?) and the guns.

overall it's still decent as far as video game stories though.

I fucking hated the two weapon system. More so because all the Vox weapons were useless

alphagamble posted...

For me the plot loses its way around the part with Chen(?) and the guns.

It's just super dumb that Booker and Elizabeth think that the solution to completing a deal with a dude is to move to a reality where they've never spoken to him.

Credit where it's due though, the game is very good at obfuscating how stupid it is. It wasn't until after I finished it and starting really thinking about it that I realized so much of it makes no sense.

Wasn't it straight up confirmed and admitted to by the head developer that he literally thought he had such a clever twist and worked backwards to create a game around it?

The twist was alright

The ending was dumb though

I thought of another one, but the game may actually explain this.

I seem to remember there being a thing where if you're dead in another reality, it really fucks you up. Like you're semi-catatonic. But with infinite realities, that just means everyone would be brain dead because surely you're dead in one of them.

I liked it a lot, might be my favorite overall trilogy.

I didn't like the second one but getting the online trophies was actually fun. Infinite was colorful and bright which was a nice change

1. Bioshock
2. Infinite
3. Bio 2

It was worse in every important way than the previous games.

I don't remember enough about the story of a game I played 10 years ago to criticize. I had fun with the game, though. It wasn't amazing but it was a decently fun FPS, which isn't a genre I typically enjoy.

I enjoyed it.

If I recall, so did a lot of the people who went on to bitch about it later on.

Three-month-rule in action, I guess.

Sphyx posted...

I enjoyed it.

If I recall, so did a lot of the people who went on to bitch about it later on.

I'll cop to this. Sort of. Even while playing, the two-weapon limit irked my nerves.

But I enjoyed it despite that because:

pegusus123456 posted...

the game is very good at obfuscating how stupid it is. It wasn't until after I finished it and starting really thinking about it that I realized so much of it makes no sense.

Ill always be salty about Infinites potential being thrown away to cash in on dated AAA gaming industry trends.

SHRlKE posted...

Because the story is ass.

the fact there are infinite universes make what we do in the game worthless because there are still infinite universes where bad shit happens. Booker should have just chilled out and enjoyed life.

yup.

Burial at sea made andrew ryan and fontain characters way worse, and the multiverse crap made everything you did feel pointless.

Every time I think of it I think of DASUBERMACHT

Bait & switch.

Early trailers showed a much different gameplay.

St0rmFury posted...

Bait & switch.

Early trailers showed a much different gameplay.

this. Id love for the proto to leak

Shit story

Two weapon limit

Was a mechanical downgrade compared to the previous games

Beyond the bait and switch trailer, shit plot and cod style hallways? Its still not a good game.

It's the only one I played. I didn't care about issues with the story. The actual gameplay was too much of entering an area and then enemies just kind of swarm in until you've killed them all. Reminded me of Deadspace 3

Extremely overrated, i remember playing it and thinking the first one was way better.

BioShock Infinite felt like they made a carnival ride version of the first game. It has very similar beats, but keeps you moving along and make sure your arms are inside the car at all times. It has similar characters and motivations as the first game, but everything has now been dolled up to be exaggerated carnival representations of those same characters and concepts. This all means that by the time you found something interesting you may want to learn more about, you're already being shuttled down the rail to the next set piece and the game would prefer you not think too much about what you just saw.

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Nah, I agree with you. Two felt much more like a publisher mandated sequel. The fact that you're going back to rapture and the big twist is "what if religion instead of capitalism", combined with the fact that you do feel slower and clunkier as a big daddy, definitely made the second game feel very mediocre. That being said, the second game has the best vigor and trap system of the three so you end up being able to do some of the coolest and craziest stuff in the franchise in that game.

I liked the new enemies in Bioshock 2 but I was never enamoured with the game overall

Another thing was the equipment buffs were very mild or very situational.

The firefights just went on and on and on.

I was excited for new plot points and groaned when I had to go back to gameplay.

HA4e posted...

The demos and trailers for this game would've been infinitely better than the shit we got

This is my MAJOR gripe.

Anyone else feel like with the power of the ps5, we could finally get the bioshock infinite we should have gotten 10 years ago?

Noumas posted...

Anyone else feel like with the power of the ps5, we could finally get the bioshock infinite we should have gotten 10 years ago?

yes.

but itd take a lot of budget to make it

I hate that it made the original Bioshock (Rapture) part of a multiverse and the events that happen in both games tied with one another. I would have been fine with a not so-direct connection that we could speculate on but oh well.

iPhone_7 posted...

I hate that it made the original Bioshock (Rapture) part of a multiverse and the events that happen in both games tied with one another. I would have been fine with a not so-direct connection that we could speculate on but oh well.

Eh, the name still being Bioshock heavily implied that its still very connected. But I do see your point, I thought this would end with Columbia crashing and its skeleton becomes Rapture, not a multiverse.

alphagamble posted...

I liked the new enemies in Bioshock 2 but I was never enamoured with the game overall.

I liked the combat in Bioshock 2 more than in the first one, specifically the Big Sister fights. But the pacing and story just made it completely forgettable and not very interesting.

Noumas posted...

Anyone else feel like with the power of the ps5, we could finally get the bioshock infinite we should have gotten 10 years ago?

So the power of PCs 10 years ago?

I dont think the problem was that we didnt have the technology, its that in general AAA game companies tend to cut corners A LOT. Making a fully 3D modern game is expensive, takes super long, needs tons of people working on it and theres often tight deadlines. Until we can more efficently make games then this will be an inevitability.

Oh and also if you are a basic grunt worker you are easily replacable because "everyone wants to code games as their career!".