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CableZL
01/17/23 11:12:37 AM
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https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/01/17/attack-on-titan-s4-part-3-to-release-in-2023-but-expect-a-shorter-broadcast/

Additionally, season 4 part 3 will actually be split into two parts itself; with season 4 part 3 part 1 starting its broadcast in March, followed by the final part before the end of 2023.

I think they're getting kinda ridiculous with this. Season 4 part 3 part 1 in March and then season 4 part 3 part 2 later this year... Just release the rest of it all at once, ffs

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uwnim
01/17/23 11:13:20 AM
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Just how far behind schedule are they that they need to do that?

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Holy_Cloud105
01/17/23 11:14:53 AM
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They're milking the hell out of it because they know the ending is stupid and will probably make a lot of people upset.

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ZevLoveDOOM
01/17/23 11:17:21 AM
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i stopped at season 3 and waited for the rest to come out.

like goddamn, how many parts does a final season need? this is getting ridiculous...
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Doom_Art
01/17/23 11:17:47 AM
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Didn't read the manga. Why would the ending be disappointing? Spoil it for me.

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Holy_Cloud105
01/17/23 11:24:58 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Didn't read the manga. Why would the ending be disappointing? Spoil it for me.

Eren does all the stuff he's doing because he's in love with Mikasa and she didn't say that when he asked her during the trip to Marley. He had a vision about it but because there were no deviations he figured following the vision was the only way to protect her and his friends. Everyone on Paradis allies with Marley to kill Eren and it ends with Mikasa decapitating him. We get a flashback to Eren telling Armin his plan before erasing his memories and Armin tells him he's a moron. This leads to Eren having a breakdown about how he loves Mikasa and he doesn't want anyone else to be with her. She ends up marrying Reiner or whoever, there's a temporary peace achieved by Armin but Marley kills everyone on Paradis anyway. Oh, and Eren turns into the tree that Ymir found with the Titan parasite in it and some kid finds it years later. He's also hinted to have reincarnated into a bird or something that watches Mikasa be with whoever she married.

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lorddrakath1522
01/17/23 11:32:46 AM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Eren does all the stuff he's doing because he's in love with Mikasa and she didn't say that when he asked her during the trip to Marley. He had a vision about it but because there were no deviations he figured following the vision was the only way to protect her and his friends. Everyone on Paradis allies with Marley to kill Eren and it ends with Mikasa decapitating him. We get a flashback to Eren telling Armin his plan before erasing his memories and Armin tells him he's a moron. This leads to Eren having a breakdown about how he loves Mikasa and he doesn't want anyone else to be with her. She ends up marrying Reiner or whoever, there's a temporary peace achieved by Armin but Marley kills everyone on Paradis anyway. Oh, and Eren turns into the tree that Ymir found with the Titan parasite in it and some kid finds it years later. He's also hinted to have reincarnated into a bird or something that watches Mikasa be with whoever she married.

There's some parts very wrong here but it's mostly this.
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Holy_Cloud105
01/17/23 11:33:16 AM
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lorddrakath1522 posted...
There's some parts very wrong here but it's mostly this.
Like what? Please correct me. if it's the Eren goes psycho thing because Mikasa said she isn't in love with him, how is that wrong? If she told him she loved him he 100% would have done something different. It was incredibly stupid.

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TheShadowViper
01/17/23 11:51:05 AM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Like what? Please correct me. if it's the Eren goes psycho thing because Mikasa said she isn't in love with him, how is that wrong? If she told him she loved him he 100% would have done something different. It was incredibly stupid.
His underlying motivation is not Mikasa, it is his search for freedom and having his friends live out their lives (that is, should they survive trying to kill him). He also doesn't want Mikasa to be with another man. What Mikasa is the key to is releasing Ymir, as she is what Ymir was to the old king (Mikasa showed her it was possible to put her loyalties aside and move on by killing Eren). Keep in mind he refuses to use his Founding Titan's ability to remove "their freedom" (that is, them trying to kill him) since he could literally just tell them to die death note style.

Armin says he pities Eren, not that he is a moron. Moreover, Eren tells Armin that he went forward with the rumbling because it is what HE wanted. He is also struggles to tell the difference between past and present due to his abilities.

Eren killed 80% of the world's population in his attack. Marley doesn't destroy Paradis, the world does well after the events of the rumbling (Mikasa is said to die of old age before this takes place). The titan abilities are removed from the world with the departure of Ymir, but at the very end there is a similar scene to what happened prior to Ymir gaining her abilities, hinting that the creature (or another like it) could bring titans back to the world.
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Holy_Cloud105
01/17/23 12:06:02 PM
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TheShadowViper posted...
His underlying motivation is not Mikasa, it is his search for freedom and having his friends live out their lives (that is, should they survive trying to kill him). He also doesn't want Mikasa to be with another man. What Mikasa is the key to is releasing Ymir, as she is what Ymir was to the old king (Mikasa showed her it was possible to put her loyalties aside and move on by killing Eren). Keep in mind he refuses to use his Founding Titan's ability to remove "their freedom" (that is, them trying to kill him) since he could literally just tell them to die death note style.

Armin says he pities Eren, not that he is a moron. Moreover, Eren tells Armin that he went forward with the rumbling because it is what HE wanted. He is also struggles to tell the difference between past and present due to his abilities.

Eren killed 80% of the world's population in his attack. Marley doesn't destroy Paradis, the world does well after the events of the rumbling (Mikasa is said to die of old age before this takes place). The titan abilities are removed from the world with the departure of Ymir, but at the very end there is a similar scene to what happened prior to Ymir gaining her abilities, hinting that the creature (or another like it) could bring titans back to the world.
From what I remember:
If she had responded differently from his vision he was planning to not go through with the rumbling. Maybe I'm missing something here but it felt like that was the determining factor for him actually going through with it and why that scene was focused on.

I'll admit me being wrong about the second point.

Third point:
If I'm not mistaken, the epilogue chapter shows fighter jets destroying Paradis as they ended up in a war with the rest of the world anyway. It wasn't immediately after the Eren stuff but it still occurred.


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ROBANN_88
01/17/23 12:09:22 PM
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That's still going?
I thought they reached the end ages ago

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CableZL
01/17/23 12:10:19 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
That's still going?
I thought they reached the end ages ago
The manga ended. The anime is still going.

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Slaya4
01/17/23 12:11:36 PM
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I think I might just read the manga. They bullshitting

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gunplagirl
01/17/23 12:16:06 PM
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There's more "the final season" parts than the rest of the series lmao

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CyricZ
01/17/23 12:16:08 PM
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Been a minute but as I recall (question): doesn't Armin essentially "see your point" with regards to Eren initiating the Rumbling that kills 80% of the world's population? "You were doing what was best for us" or some garbage like that?

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TheShadowViper
01/17/23 12:16:41 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
If she had responded differently from his vision he was planning to not go through with the rumbling. Maybe I'm missing something here but it felt like that was the determining factor for him actually going through with it and why that scene was focused on.
It wasn't. He was trying to see if the future could change and that was one of the elements that showed him it couldn't. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that was the driving factor in his decision to go ahead with it.

It is theorized he would have run off with her if she said yes, but that was never going to happen and he knows that because he has literally seen the future where he enacts the rumbling (through Grisha's memories that were beamed back by his future self).

Eren's always been fucking insane. The ending was just a wake up call for those who chose to ignore it.

CyricZ posted... Been a minute but as I recall (question): doesn't Armin essentially "see your point" with regards to Eren initiating the Rumbling that kills 80% of the world's population? "You were doing what was best for us" or some garbage like that?
And that's the real problem with the ending...Armin's random about face on Eren. It would have actually made sense if Armin had just accepted that Eren drove himself insane trying to protect his friends, but his attempts to justify it are laughable and it doesn't even make sense in-chapter, let alone for the story as a whole.
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SocialistGamer
01/17/23 12:16:52 PM
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Final season part e part 1 part 4 part 6

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Takuya_Lee
01/17/23 12:20:15 PM
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Oh for **** sake ... There's only 9 chapters or so left to animate. There's no reason for a split.

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Holy_Cloud105
01/17/23 12:21:36 PM
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TheShadowViper posted...
It wasn't. He was trying to see if the future could change and that was one of the elements that showed him it couldn't. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that was the driving factor in his decision to go ahead with it.

It is theorized he would have run off with her if she said yes, but that was never going to happen and he knows that because he has literally seen the future where he enacts the rumbling (through Grisha's memories that were beamed back by his future self).

Eren's always been fucking insane. The ending was just a wake up call for those who chose to ignore it.

That makes more sense. I guess I remembered wrong and thought the theorizing about them running off was actually canon. Thanks for the clarification.

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CyricZ
01/17/23 12:24:55 PM
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TheShadowViper posted...
And that's the real problem with the ending...
Yeah despite being fuzzy on the specifics I remember that being my biggest problem. Not that Eren became the problem. Not that everyone had to kill him. Not the ErenxMikasa relationship tripe. The fact that basically the "smart guy" character meant to come up with the message for all this basically looks out from the page and says "sometimes you gotta do a genocide".

Like that's how I reframed it in my head, so I wanted to be cautious about how I asked my question lol.

Also I know not everyone will agree with me on this, but a lot has been made about the parallels of this story and WW2/the Holocaust and I personally don't think a story of "the Jews are persecuted but what if there was a darn good reason to do it (they have monster powers)" is sending the right message.

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Cobra1010
01/17/23 12:28:36 PM
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What so it's got season 4 part 1, season 4 part 2 and now there's season 4 part 1.1 and season 4 part 1.2?

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Strider102
01/17/23 12:29:53 PM
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Let's go a bit further and split it up into more parts that way we can have Season 4 Part 3 Part 1 Part 1.

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s0nicfan
01/17/23 12:32:16 PM
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Just wait until Attack On Titan: The Final Season: The Final Part: Part 2 ends on a cliffhanger because they plan on ending things in Attack On Titan: The Final Season: The Final Part: The Movie, alternatively titled AoT 2: The Search for More Money

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Solo_Wing
01/17/23 12:45:32 PM
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Aot final season : this time it's final : for real : I promise

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ROBANN_88
01/17/23 10:30:18 PM
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Why not just call it season 5 at that point?

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lilORANG
01/17/23 10:41:15 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
That's still going?
I thought they reached the end ages ago
Same lol. I even watched season 4 part 1 and assumed part 2 came out and ended it.

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Solo_Wing
01/17/23 11:21:42 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Why not just call it season 5 at that point?
Probably at some point during development "hey we can milk the shit out of this"
"But sir we already called the prior season final season"
"Eh, just call it part 2"
"..."
"What?"
"Sir.. You're a genius"

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A_Good_Boy
01/17/23 11:22:57 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Why not just call it season 5 at that point?
Because that would mean that season 4 wasn't the final season.

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Letsago
01/17/23 11:24:54 PM
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This has the same energy as "Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3"

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Null_Gain
01/17/23 11:27:12 PM
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Still waiting for the Season 4 Part 2 dub to get completed.

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DarthDemented
01/17/23 11:35:45 PM
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Null_Gain posted...
Still waiting for the Season 4 Part 2 dub to get completed.
It has. Pretty sure toonami already aired it. Just be a bit longer before it gets added to Hulu unless you have live

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dummy420
01/17/23 11:45:37 PM
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Finally gave in and read the Manga when they decided to stretch season 4 into 3 seasons.


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DarthDemented
01/17/23 11:46:47 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Finally gave in and read the Manga when they decided to stretch season 4 into 3 seasons.
I did that a couple years ago before part 2 even had a release date. Even pre-ordered the final volume.

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WingsOfGood
01/17/23 11:49:35 PM
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ERRRREEENNNN!!!!!!!!

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WingsOfGood
01/17/23 11:50:17 PM
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Solo_Wing posted...
Probably at some point during development "hey we can milk the shit out of this"
"But sir we already called the prior season final season"
"Eh, just call it part 2"
"..."
"What?"
"Sir.. You're a genius"


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Nukazie
01/17/23 11:51:50 PM
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nice

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Kimbos_Egg
01/17/23 11:55:41 PM
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an ending so bad the author apologised for it.

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pegusus123456
01/17/23 11:57:57 PM
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I've skipped most of this topic because I haven't read the manga, but there's a post on the AoT subreddit saying that this news is slightly misinterpreted/mistranslated. The final part is essentially going to be two long episodes, one in March and one later on. The comments are saying that this makes sense because only a few chapters are left to adapt and they're like 70% action which takes far less time in an anime than it would a manga.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/10e8wem/japanese_fan_here_the_final_season_is_not_2_cours/

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Null_Gain
01/18/23 12:00:27 AM
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DarthDemented posted...
It has. Pretty sure toonami already aired it. Just be a bit longer before it gets added to Hulu unless you have live

Yeah, I've been waiting on Hulu to pick it up.

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Kami_no_Kami
01/18/23 12:06:29 AM
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Im gonna be honest and say that I dont understand what people wanted Eren to do. The timeskip starts with the world declaring war on Paradis, with Eldians in general being soon to follow. From there on the situation is very clearly kill-or-be-killed. Eren outright states that he knows Marley and the people of the outside world arent any different from his friends and we see that the rumbling causes him extreme trauma but at the end of the day hes stuck in the sacrifice a billion strangers or sacrifice all your friends/family hypothetical, and I cant really fault him for making the choice many people would.

I also enjoyed the fact that we got to see Eren as a human in the flashback rather than the generic stoic anime psycho hed been for the rest of the timeskip. He deeply wanted to be with Mikasa and live life alongside his friends, but he knew his death was a prerequisite for his friends surviving, as it eliminated titans while also showing the world that Eldians arent all bad. Thats what I took from the Thank you scene at the end. Its not necessarily saying the rumbling was justified. Thats not the point. Eren sacrificed his humanity in starting the rumbling and eventually his life to save his friends. Theyre showing gratitude for his sacrifices even if they dont agree with his actions.

Oh and, the epilogue doesnt make Eren a failure. Ending war forever was never something Eren set out to do. He wanted to give his friends full, free, peaceful lives and its made clear he succeeded.

Is the ending perfect? Absolutely not. But its serviceable. I was worried that it was going to end with everyone forgiving each other and Im glad thats not what we got. Billions died, including the protagonist, and the only upside to all of that bloodshed is that the other main characters have a chance at not being ostracized and only if they work hard and make a strong case for themselves.
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K181
01/18/23 12:07:18 AM
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I legitimately thought that the show ended a year or two ago.

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