Board 8 > ALCOHOL MAFIA Topic 2. Drunk on a plane

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Corrik7 posted...

You promised to claim if I answered your previous questions. You refused. Thus, I see no equity in trusting you going forward, DEAR SIR.

You have one more question to answer.

If you refuse to answer that, then I can only assume your answers have all been lies so far, and then you would not have earned the claim.

plum just peaced out when pressured to vote han...

Obellisk posted...

plum just peaced out when pressured to vote han...

I'm pretty positive Plum thinks I'm Town.

Obellisk posted...

plum just peaced out when pressured to vote han...

I peaced out to do literally anything in the world other than vote Han

##unvote
##Vote: Han

Why did you vote ctes? You never answered.

Though with 3 hours left we probably should figure out what we are doing here.

Still think Abacus is a good option

UnderUrMattress posted...

##unvote
##Vote: Han

Why did you vote ctes? You never answered.

Or maybe stay on marth

Plum peaced out when he realized how embarassing his flavor argument became.

UnderUrMattress posted...

##unvote
##Vote: Han

Why did you vote ctes? You never answered.

You are awfully active for going to work.

Also I'm not feeling scumvibes from han and we've got a few hours left in the day bark up a different tree.

UnderUrMattress posted...

##unvote
##Vote: Han

Why did you vote ctes? You never answered.

Sorry, I did not.
He's done nothing to earn Townlooks.
And when Corrik made his list, Ctes was sitting on it.
And he was around, so I thought we'd get more out of it in the current than someone like Isquen who has claimed he won't be around, or Ben.

Corrik7 posted...

Ctes is in this game?

It's funny how you said this at least thrice and I still went unnoticed completely regardless of activity.

masterplum posted...

Though with 3 hours left we probably should figure out what we are doing here.

Still think Abacus is a good option

Remind me of this. Abacus came in and voted Han because he thought Han said plum had a hard time putting himself into players' shoes. He didn't back much off knowing he had misunderstood. What happened then?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Hey now this is giving me less credit than I deserve.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Remind me of this. Abacus came in and voted Han because he thought Han said plum had a hard time putting himself into players' shoes. He didn't back much off knowing he had misunderstood. What happened then?

Yeah, I don't know, I think he came back and made a better case for himself in adjusting, but I can't remember exactly what he did. Still, it feels better than what others have offered.

Leafeon13N posted...

You are awfully active for going to work.

Well now I'm on break so you're going to be even more disappointed for me playing the game lol.

masterplum posted...

Though with 3 hours left we probably should figure out what we are doing here.

Still think Abacus is a good option

I'm down for Abacus pressure, but I don't think I'll personally vote there.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Sorry, I did not.
He's done nothing to earn Townlooks.
And when Corrik made his list, Ctes was sitting on it.
And he was around, so I thought we'd get more out of it in the current than someone like Isquen who has claimed he won't be around, or Ben.

I see.
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Yeah, I kinda got this vibe too.

UnderUrMattress posted...

I'm down for Abacus pressure, but I don't think I'll personally vote there.

Now this is putting yourself on both sides of the same case.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Now this is putting yourself on both sides of the same case.

Idk he kinda fell off recently.

Ctes

Leafeon13N posted...

Ctes

Red.

So many Votes its like I'm Drunk

[3] Han -( Abacus), SBell,Corrik, Marth
[2] Marth -( SBell), (Corrik), Ctes, Plum
[2] Ctes- (Marth), Han, Lea
[1] Corrik- (Lopen), (Han,) (Lopen), (Plum,) (Lea), (Marth), Red
[1] Mzero- JC
[0] Isquen- (Abacus)
[0] Ben - (Lopen), (Lea)
[O] Lopen - (JC)
[0] SBell - (Lea)
[0] Marth - (Lopen)
[0] Plum - (Han), (Lea), (Marth)
[0] Abacus- (Plum),(Lea)

14 are alive, so it takes 8 to lynch. Day ends tonight at 9 pm Eastern!

Town
Plum - The early fumbling reminds me more of early plum in last game, and in games where he's Scum, he comes out of the gate with a lot more decisiveness. I think what we've seen today also matches up more with where he ended up going in the previous game.

Townish
Red - I know LEA disagrees, but the fact that Red has basically just been snotty to her and SBell and provided a few select sentence that I agreed with make me feel pretty confident that he's Town.

SBell - Frankly, his obstinance has reminded me more of our games of tete-a-tete than in game where he was SK, and was keen to push at me but let Lopen lead the charge. In the previous game, he slunk - now, he's brash and hitting the town. I am fighting my defensiveness on this one, and saying he's more Townish.

Lea - I think I've developed a gut nervousness when it comes to Lea because I'm feeling it a bit here, but I also think we've been thinking along the same lines a lot more often this game. Part of me is afraid that she is pocketing me as sorts, but she's been providing insight and that rings more Town, so I'm going to chalk up to being paranoid as reasons for not putting her higher.

Corrik - Frankly, moving through the topic, I did feel like it was stream of consciousness. We would be better off if you were engaging me more instead of just asking for a claim. I didn't like so much that you based your hill around the Marth list, but you have adjusted since, and coming off of Marth makes me feel better about Corrik.

Marth - Leaning Townish here because I see him more frustrated with claiming. It doesn't feel like a prepared half-claim. I liked his answers and I liked how he opened the game up.

JC - Honestly, given today and the way he's spoken, he feels really earnest so he's bumped up here and I won't endorse him being specialed.

Lopen - I'd say I'm feeling good about Lopen, so he's upper end here, but I can't help but feel a little uneasy. Still, that he would start things off by countering me voting Plum to get shit off the ground was the kind of move I wouldn't expect Scum Lopen to make. It doesn't line up with his Scum profile at all.

????
Abacus - Upper end here. He came off of me easily for my explanation which is, idk, sensible? Still, I haven't gotten quite enough from him to feel great, so much as I feel better.

Ctes - Kind of played hop-on with Marth, but I think he's still on him? And didn't hop off to join the votes on me which shows independent thought. Also, he's here, which makes him look better than people who aren't.

Isquen - Inactive, only reason I don't feel worse is because I'm hesitant to gun for him after last game.
Ben - Inactive, only reason I don't feel worse is that he did bother to keep up and post check-in posts that he wouldn't need to do as Scum
MZero - Inactive, no reason to feel better

It is HIGHLY unlikely that all the Scum are just inactive but

This is where thoughts lie.

I dont remember a single thing ctes posted, which is a decent D1 target

It worries me to put that many of the most established players as town but let's have this post around for a day where I can concentrate reading it more carefully the whole way through.

ctesjbuvf posted...

It worries me to put that many of the most established players as town but let's have this post around for a day where I can concentrate reading it more carefully the whole way through.

Excuse you, Ben and MZero are very established.

I think we just kill mzero and call it a day.

masterplum posted...

I dont remember a single thing ctes posted, which is a decent D1 target

Then remember better. You just allowed me to win a game as scum where I wasn't even hiding by paying no attention to me. If you're town step that up.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Excuse you, Ben and MZero are very established.

I didn't say all.

ctesjbuvf posted...

It worries me to put that many of the most established players as town but let's have this post around for a day where I can concentrate reading it more carefully the whole way through.

Why?

Do you have reason to doubt any of them being town?

UnderUrMattress posted...

Why?

Do you have reason to doubt any of them being town?

I have played a decent amount of games here in 22. There are many players there difficult to build a lynch on under any circumstances.

Ok

##Unvote
##Vote:Ctes

ctesjbuvf posted...

I have played a decent amount of games here in 22. There are many players there difficult to build a lynch on under any circumstances.

That doesn't really answer the question?

Also because I'm struggling to build strong reads on anybody this game, if makes me worry some of the more established players, several of which I've only seen as town, rolled scum.

Oh right! What I liked about Abacus was that I think he's only Scum if Corrik is Scum. Otherwise, his reaction was Townish.

Bump him up a tier.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I have played a decent amount of games here in 22. There are many players there difficult to build a lynch on under any circumstances.

What I'm saying is sometimes a game is just as easy as all the inactive players being wolf.

You seem hesitant to accept this. What reasons do you have, and who fits the narrative of a player that Han is misreading?

ctesjbuvf posted...

Also because I'm struggling to build strong reads on anybody this game, if makes me worry some of the more established players, several of which I've only seen as town, rolled scum.

Can you point out who?

I'd love to believe your paranoia, but it is difficult when you make generalized reads like this.

I like the way Marth is talking Ctes through this.

I also miss Lea. Lea is quiet.

UnderUrMattress posted...

What I'm saying is sometimes a game is just as easy as all the inactive players being wolf.

I mean, reads are usually wrong somewhere, especially this early. But i think the inactive pile has a high likelihood of scum right now.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

That doesn't really answer the question?

No is the shortest answer.

But it makes me pause. Ben and MZero are good players, but I've also just won a game taking advantage of how they could be mislynched by screwing up. I've never seen you mislycnhed, Lea mislynched, red mislynched nor Corrik mislynched.

I just don't understand why you're placing doubt on Han's worldview if you can't pinpoint a specific person you think may be tricking you. At the end of the day it is just planting seeds of doubt which is commonplace for mafia to do.

UnderUrMattress posted...

What I'm saying is sometimes a game is just as easy as all the inactive players being wolf.

To some extent sure, but never completely.

Also my votes build while I'm active and you jumped on me (twice) while I was active.

Wow, a lot of things happened while I was at my doctors appointment.

Im inclined to let Marth have a chance to resolve himself if thats even possible, call it ptsd from lynching Isquen last game without giving him the chance.

I endorse more MZero pressure. The scummoning ritual clearly requires more participants. Up until basically right now he was flying far too under the radar while Isquen, Abacus, and Ben were getting more inactivity spotlight on them. Is it scum avoiding bringing him up?

Something is still not quite sitting right with SBell for me. Hes not doing what he did last game, admittedly, but it still bothers me hes not playing the kind of game that scum SBell said town SBell plays (town clearing as opposed to scum hunting). Why wouldnt town SBell be playing the way he self-describes his town game?

Trust me I'm really trying my best to be as charitable with you as possible but you're really falling flat.

I've been mislynched twice in the history of ever.

One time, Scare had to fakeclaim as Cop and suicide into me in Smash Bros. mafia. Town ended up losing.

The other time was when I pinged both Plum and BCT as Scum in my first post, and any train I tried to push got blocked, so Ulti gunned me in the end of day and I was too stubborn to claim as Doc, which would have led to Scumplum getting lynched, so that's on me.

Otherwise, I'm never mislynched because I just wear my heart on my sleeve as Town, and I tend to put in tons of effort when it becomes necessary.