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SocialistGamer
12/26/22 8:27:00 PM
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https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1607520020862750721?s=20&t=Y62MYpNyzRI-MuwI1PrjtQ
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ViewtifulJoe
12/26/22 8:27:34 PM
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It's like an interactive movie but you have it's divided into different box sets you have to buy.

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DoesntMatter
12/26/22 8:27:48 PM
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yeah that's what i want to experience when i play a game, is a TV show

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SuperShake666
12/26/22 8:28:36 PM
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I miss Jak and Daxter.

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K181
12/26/22 8:30:19 PM
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Protagonist: *quippy one-liner*
*pauses for laugh track*
*commercial break*

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SSJKirby
12/26/22 8:31:59 PM
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not inherently bad, Alan Wake is structured like a tv show and it was rad

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Solar_Crimson
12/26/22 8:32:21 PM
#7:


DoesntMatter posted...
yeah that's what i want to experience when i play a game, is a TV show


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Alucard188
12/26/22 8:33:09 PM
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Neil CUCKman lmao

Dude wants to make a TV show. He should just make one.

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g0ldie
12/26/22 8:33:39 PM
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iirc, Alan Wake and Metal Gear Solid V did something like this.

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DoesntMatter
12/26/22 8:33:41 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Neil CUCKman lmao
loooooooool

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DeadBankerDream
12/26/22 8:34:10 PM
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Can someone explain to my dumb ass what that even means.

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SSJKirby
12/26/22 8:34:46 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Can someone explain to my dumb ass what that even means.
chapter breaks are gonna be more prevalent probably

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DeadBankerDream
12/26/22 8:39:32 PM
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So Life is Strange?

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DarkBuster22904
12/26/22 8:40:45 PM
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Wow. An episodic game.

Revolutionary. Haven't seen that before.

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Scarecrow17
12/26/22 8:41:53 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
So Life is Strange?

Yes, but without cute girls

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Proto_Spark
12/26/22 8:42:42 PM
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Note that the first TLOU game was really structured like a TV show. It was very directly split into very clear sections that would take you about 45-90 minutes to play through (depending on stuff like difficulty and how good a gamer you are) that ended with very obvious "this is the end of the episode" moments for you to put the game down and come back to later.

It was honestly one of the strongest points of that game, and something TLOU2 strayed from, which is part of the reason the 2nd game isn't as good (I mean, I really liked the 2nd game, but I think the first one is better).
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DipDipDiver
12/26/22 8:44:04 PM
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I actually loved this about Mass Effect 2, the way the recruitment and loyalty missions were structured made it feel just like a tv show
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Shotgunnova
12/26/22 8:46:22 PM
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Here's a sneak peek of his upcoming game:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/8/AABhrNAAEB8G.png

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g0ldie
12/26/22 8:48:24 PM
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oh yea, also Deadly Premonition was also structured like a show, with the whole end of a chapter/episode, and how there was a re-cap of important events at the beginning of new ones.

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CrashLightning
12/26/22 8:50:01 PM
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g0ldie posted...
iirc, Alan Wake and Metal Gear Solid V did something like this.
Alone in the Dark (2008) also did this and you could choose which 'episode' to play and you could skip forward if you couldn't be bothered to play your current episode.
It was 'The Room' of video games along with other classics like Autobahn Police Simulator 3, Sonic 06 and Two Worlds.
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g0ldie
12/26/22 8:57:17 PM
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^ thanks.

I'm not too familiar with the franchise, but that sounds like it could be interesting, depending on how it was utilized.

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Jagr_68
12/26/22 9:19:55 PM
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Remedy did this with Quantum Break and look how that turned out >________>

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alphagamble
12/26/22 9:33:06 PM
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Resident Evil Revelations as well

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DuuuDe14
12/26/22 10:04:24 PM
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Imagine buying a Naughty Dog game

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InTheEyesOfFire
12/26/22 10:05:49 PM
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Killer7 did it pretty well too.

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metralo
12/26/22 10:06:32 PM
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DuuuDe14 posted...
Imagine buying a Naughty Dog game

buying peak after peak after peak is pretty great yeah

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Ivynn
12/26/22 10:06:53 PM
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Man some devs really are just wannabe directors and feel like they do games because they couldn't break into tv and film. :\

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Jagr_68
12/26/22 10:16:00 PM
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DuuuDe14 posted...
Imagine buying a Naughty Dog game

Imagine being a moderator.

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TheGoldenEel
12/26/22 10:16:22 PM
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No More Heroes 3 also did this

Dude is just so far up his own has he thinks treating chapters of a game like episodes is some crazy new idea

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g0ldie
12/26/22 10:18:28 PM
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tbf, we don't know what he means by making the next game more TV-like, it's just that we're assuming its structure since we have nothing else to go by right now.

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NozomisHusband
12/26/22 10:22:57 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Note that the first TLOU game was really structured like a TV show. It was very directly split into very clear sections that would take you about 45-90 minutes to play through (depending on stuff like difficulty and how good a gamer you are) that ended with very obvious "this is the end of the episode" moments for you to put the game down and come back to later.

It was honestly one of the strongest points of that game, and something TLOU2 strayed from, which is part of the reason the 2nd game isn't as good (I mean, I really liked the 2nd game, but I think the first one is better).

Yeah I was getting ready to say that this isn't really a new thing, even for Naughty Dog, so maybe this is him saying the next game is going to be more like TLOU1 than the second game or something.

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metralo
12/26/22 10:23:40 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...


Dude is just so far up his own has he thinks treating chapters of a game like episodes is some crazy new idea

it really, truly doesn't sound like this is the case here

this sounds more like cringe ass gamers freaking out over a nothing comment

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HylianFox
12/26/22 10:23:57 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Here's a sneak peek of his upcoming game:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/8/AABhrNAAEB8G.png
I was NOT expecting a Rockin' Cats reference

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BakonBitz
12/26/22 10:30:27 PM
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Tbh other games that I really liked also tried to do the "TV Show" story structure before, so I'm curious to see what exactly he's talking about. Some of the games have been cited here, but another one is Asura's Wrath. It felt like a playable anime with how the story was structured: split into chapters and called "Episodes", each one starts with a teaser for the chapter, each one has a "commercial break" moment (except there's no commercials of course), and then credits at the end of each one.

Had such a blast playing that game even though the gameplay was 80% QTE.

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Ratchetrockon
12/26/22 10:32:36 PM
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some point n click games already do this like "The Last Door" and "The Dream Machine"


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ViewtifulJoe
12/26/22 10:35:18 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Had such a blast playing that game even though the gameplay was 80% QTE.
You spent 20% of the game in menus and buying the true ending as DLC? How!?

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BakonBitz
12/26/22 10:39:09 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
You spent 20% of the game in menus and buying the true ending as DLC? How!?
Well, the other 20% was actual gameplay, but yes, I did buy the true ending, and I did love my time. I really wish they didn't lock the true ending behind DLC though. I read a story that they were planning a sequel but sales didn't do so well, so they decided to just wrap up the story with a DLC chapter...dunno how true that is though.

If the game got a remaster with all its DLC content packed in I'd heavily consider getting that.

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Punished_Blinx
12/26/22 10:41:37 PM
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Good lord some of you are dramatic

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ViewtifulJoe
12/26/22 10:54:03 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
If the game got a remaster with all its DLC content packed in I'd heavily consider getting that.
Obligatory "I believe that's already out on Youtube."

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Scarecrow17
12/26/22 11:07:13 PM
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metralo posted...
buying peak after peak after peak is pretty great yeah

Pfffft, you definitely need to play more video games if you think current Naughty Dog shit is peak.

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metralo
12/26/22 11:08:54 PM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
Pfffft, you definitely need to play more video games if you think current Naughty Dog shit is peak.

what do you suggest

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BakonBitz
12/26/22 11:44:16 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

At least that's how people perceive them now.

I'm pretty sure Neil was responsible for the first TLOU and yet that one was beloved.

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g0ldie
12/27/22 12:10:47 AM
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I don't see how.

Druckmann was both the writer and creative director of TLoU.

Straley was the game director.

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Doom_Art
12/27/22 12:13:04 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

how are TLoU, Uncharted 4, and TLoU2 shit?

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Jagr_68
12/27/22 12:14:29 AM
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idc for Drunkman but man some posters are really big mad to the point of just blatantly making up shit

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DarkBuster22904
12/27/22 3:33:45 AM
#49:


g0ldie posted...
tbf, we don't know what he means by making the next game more TV-like, it's just that we're assuming its structure since we have nothing else to go by right now.
I mean, what else could he mean?

The structure is basically THE defining characteristics of a TV show. Whether it's an episodic narrative, long form, or somewhere in between, the only thing separating it from a movie is the structure.

I mean, what else is there? Title cards? Commercial breaks? Getting cancelled by netflix?

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g0ldie
12/27/22 6:36:06 AM
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I'm just saying, who knows? maybe he could be talking actual development rather than game presentation , or something.

I'd just wait for more details.

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