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Tyranthraxus
12/22/22 7:40:15 PM
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Seriously

https://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-super-bowl-the-flash-promo/

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MabusIncarnate
12/22/22 7:40:45 PM
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The NFL is a wealth of great decisions

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Tyranthraxus
12/22/22 7:41:19 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
The NFL is a wealth of great decisions
Don't worry there's no nipple they made sure of that

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 7:41:38 PM
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It's not "for Ezra Miller," it's for The Flash and all of the people who worked on it. Characters are bigger than their actors, and like it or not, an actor's work is separate from any psychotic criminal sprees that may or may not have arisen from their off-work lives.

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Blue_Inigo
12/22/22 7:42:04 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's not "for Ezra Miller," it's for The Flash and all of the people who worked on it. Characters are bigger than their actors, and like it or not, an actor's work is separate from any psychotic criminal sprees that may or may not have arisen from their off-work lives.
Do you realize how fucking stupid this sounds

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Zikten
12/22/22 7:42:52 PM
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Someday they should do a meta story where Flash learns that some villain ruined his reputation with an evil movie actor portraying him in a different reality
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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 8:02:52 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Do you realize how fucking stupid this sounds
No. Why don't you explain in detail why a movie should be utterly abandoned and condemned because one of the people who worked on it committed crimes unrelated to its production?

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Questionmarktarius
12/22/22 8:08:55 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Do you realize how fucking stupid this sounds
...it's true though.
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EndOfDiscOne
12/22/22 8:09:08 PM
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I dont really care, but I wonder why Ezra is the one actor that they try so hard to keep

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Questionmarktarius
12/22/22 8:10:09 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I dont really care, but I wonder why Ezra is the one actor that they try so hard to keep
I'm assuming a bit-player or extra is related to David Zazlav somehow.
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Zikten
12/22/22 8:10:23 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I think he is facing 27 years in prison if convicted in an upcoming trial
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Tyranthraxus
12/22/22 8:11:21 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
No. Why don't you explain in detail why a movie should be utterly abandoned and condemned because one of the people who worked on it committed crimes unrelated to its production?

The "everyone else" has already been paid in full. The only people benefiting from this commercial are WBD's CFO, Miller, and maybe Keaton.

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Zikten
12/22/22 8:11:45 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I'm assuming a bit-player or extra is related to David Zazlav somehow.
Even before Zazlav took over, WB was defending Ezra though. This goes deeper. Maybe Ezra has blackmailed someone at WB
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Tyranthraxus
12/22/22 8:12:33 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I dont really care, but I wonder why Ezra is the one actor that they try so hard to keep
In test screenings the movie has gotten insanely positive reception.

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Questionmarktarius
12/22/22 8:12:36 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The "everyone else" has already been paid in full.
Apart from, you know, the other actors who got "points". Someone either has dirt on Zazlav, or is a close relative. Possibly both.
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MarcyWarcy
12/22/22 8:12:40 PM
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boo hoo wahhhh blub blub waaaaah
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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 8:21:12 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The only people benefiting from this commercial are WBD's CFO, Miller, and maybe Keaton.
When you say "WBD's CFO" you mean the company itself, right? As in...the company for whom all of those people work/worked? I ask again why it would make sense to completely cancel a movie just because one person who worked on it committed crimes that had nothing to do with the creation of the movie itself.

Yeah, Miller is a criminal who is a danger to society....but that's not a reason to flush hundreds of millions of dollars down the drain. "Oop, the guy we hired to do this job turned out to be a criminal, guess we'll just set all this money on fire now."

It doesn't (and shouldn't) work that way.

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Zikten
12/22/22 8:22:32 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
When you say "WBD's CFO" you mean the company itself, right? As in...the company for whom all of those people work/worked? I ask again why it would make sense to completely cancel a movie just because one person who worked on it committed crimes that had nothing to do with the creation of the movie itself.

Yeah, Miller is a criminal who is a danger to society....but that's not a reason to flush hundreds of millions of dollars down the drain. "Oop, the guy we hired to do this job turned out to be a criminal, guess we'll just set all this money on fire now."

It doesn't (and shouldn't) work that way.
They had multiple chances to cancel production and save some of their costs. But they always kept going
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Nukazie
12/22/22 8:22:59 PM
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seems like america just doing american things

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Tyranthraxus
12/22/22 8:26:12 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
When you say "WBD's CFO" you mean the company itself, right?

No I meant the CFO because corporations are not people.

Given zaslav's propensity to kick "everyone" to the curb for a tax credit and dodge royalties there's no guarantee anyone will benefit from anything except the top top.


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WarfireX
12/22/22 8:27:50 PM
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JFC this board defends Ezra Miller now....

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 8:29:07 PM
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Zikten posted...
They had multiple chances to cancel production and save some of their costs. But they always kept going
Because they didn't intend to cancel the movie at any time. Why would they cancel a movie because one of the people working on it had been accused of crimes? I legitimately don't think that's the right move.

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Questionmarktarius
12/22/22 8:29:12 PM
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WarfireX posted...
JFC this board defends Ezra Miller now....
did you even read the fucking thread?
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CableZL
12/22/22 8:29:17 PM
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The DCEU is a mess

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 8:30:03 PM
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WarfireX posted...
JFC this board defends Ezra Miller now....
Not defending Ezra Miller. I'm saying it doesn't make financial sense to cancel an upcoming movie with a massive budget because one of its stars committed crimes.

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WarfireX
12/22/22 8:35:15 PM
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Come on, Gobstoppers, stop. You aren't even close to one of the worst posters on this board. Why you acting like this?

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Punished_Blinx
12/22/22 8:35:56 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
In test screenings the movie has gotten insanely positive reception.

How have their test screenings gone in the past

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Turtlemayor333
12/22/22 8:37:29 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Not defending Ezra Miller. I'm saying it doesn't make financial sense to cancel an upcoming movie with a massive budget because one of its stars committed crimes.
What if I told you Warner Bros has been cancelling several upcoming movies

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Zikten
12/22/22 8:39:30 PM
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So why cancel Batgirl with a innocent actress, but preserve Flash with an actor facing 27 years in prison?

If he gets convicted they won't even be able to make Flash 2
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Questionmarktarius
12/22/22 8:41:13 PM
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Zikten posted...
So why cancel Batgirl with a innocent actress, but preserve Flash with an actor facing 27 years in prison?
Amusing sunk-cost fallacy, accountants not getting adequate tax write-offs, and everything in posts #11 and #16.
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WarfireX
12/22/22 8:43:37 PM
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This board spends their every waking minute slandering cops and trying to have bull breed dogs put to sleep but shills for American aristocracy drunk on power and the CFO's that got them there.

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Tyranthraxus
12/22/22 8:44:12 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
How have their test screenings gone in the past

Much worse than this one by all metrics

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 8:46:14 PM
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WarfireX posted...
Why you acting like this?
Because I believe it to be the truth? Knee-jerk cancellations that waste hundreds of millions of dollars are just...generally not advisable. Especially since, as of yet, he hasn't been convicted of anything. I think it's fairly clear he's going to be recast, since James Gunn has a whole new plan for the DC stuff going forward...

This is one of the last huge blockbuster movies from the present era of DC, and people are genuinely very hyped to see a Flash standalone movie. Especially with a lot of the leaks and plot details that have come out over the past few years.

It's worth releasing it even if it means Ezra Miller gets some of the money he's contractually owed.

Turtlemayor333 posted...
What if I told you Warner Bros has been cancelling several upcoming movies
I'm aware. Those movies have either been lower-budget products specifically for HBO Max (like Batgirl was) or movies in very early development (Like Wonder Woman 3).

I'm not going to say I agree with cancelling those, either. I'm a fan of people who finish projects that are started.

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WarfireX
12/22/22 8:49:12 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Because I believe it to be the truth? Knee-jerk cancellations that waste hundreds of millions of dollars are just...generally not advisable. Especially since, as of yet, he hasn't been convicted of anything. I think it's fairly clear he's going to be recast, since James Gunn has a whole new plan for the DC stuff going forward...

This is one of the last huge blockbuster movies from the present era of DC, and people are genuinely very hyped to see a Flash standalone movie. Especially with a lot of the leaks and plot details that have come out over the past few years.

It's worth releasing it even if it means Ezra Miller gets some of the money he's contractually owed.

No, see, that's the entire point. It's NOT worth further empowering these toxic, destructive, awful people who already have too much influence presently.


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TheGoldenEel
12/22/22 8:51:40 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Not defending Ezra Miller. I'm saying it doesn't make financial sense to cancel an upcoming movie with a massive budget because one of its stars committed crimes.
The actor playing The Flash, in the film The Flash, is not just one of its stars

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 8:55:10 PM
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WarfireX posted...
It's NOT worth further empowering these toxic, destructive, awful people
Literally contractually obligated to pay him royalties (if he is indeed signed to such a deal) and not worth moral grandstanding to lose hundreds of millions of dollars.

I agree that Ezra Miller is a trashperson based on the current allegations (and previous ones) but I don't think a person's shitty behavior is reason enough to trashcan a multi-million dollar production that's set for a huge theatrical release.

When they cancelled Batgirl, it was in service of a new philosophy. What was that philosophy? Focusing more on major theatrical releases as opposed to HBO Max exclusive films. The Flash is going to be a major theatrical release. It would be directly opposed to their new philosophy to cancel it.

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 8:55:26 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
The actor playing The Flash, in the film The Flash, is not just one of its stars
He is one of its stars, is he not?

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Tyranthraxus
12/22/22 8:56:36 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
He is one of its stars, is he not?
That's like saying Elon Musk is "an employee of Tesla"

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WarfireX
12/22/22 8:56:44 PM
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Man I would so much rather talk MGS with you than watch you shill for this creep. This is a dark day for CE.

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 8:59:57 PM
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WarfireX posted...
Man I would so much rather talk MGS with you than watch you shill for this creep. This is a dark day for CE.
...I'm not shilling for Ezra Miller. Ezra Miller is clearly a criminal and a danger to society, and he deserves prison time if he's convicted of the numerous crimes he's accused of.

I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to cancel the entire movie, thus dumpstering hundreds of millions of dollars, just because Ezra Miller is a bad person.

Release this movie, let it be what it is, and then recast him to make another movie. Either a sequel or a reboot, it doesn't matter.

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Tyranthraxus
12/22/22 9:25:53 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Ezra Miller is clearly a criminal and a danger to society, and he deserves prison time if he's convicted of the numerous crimes he's accused of.

Just fyi he's only going to trial for the B&E incident. All the other creepy shit he was accused of the accusers either recanted or prosecutors thought there wasn't enough evidence to make a case

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Questionmarktarius
12/22/22 9:28:37 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
He is one of its stars, is he not?
You're better than this, Gobb.
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thronedfire2
12/22/22 9:29:09 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
That's like saying Elon Musk is "an employee of Tesla"

the star of a movie is still just an employee of the movie studio

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Tyranthraxus
12/22/22 9:30:29 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
the star of a movie is still just an employee of the movie studio
No he's a contractor but that's besides the point. Ezra Miller is the single most important member of the staff by a lot.

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StormSignal
12/22/22 9:36:55 PM
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Punished_Blinx
12/22/22 9:41:19 PM
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Is Michael Keaton still a major role in this? I care about him more than Henry Cavill.

Can we just delete Ezra and have a time travelling Keaton Batman movie instead

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SwayM
12/22/22 9:41:31 PM
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They literally should just cancel this movie and eat the costs. Fuck em.

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Pastryarchy
12/22/22 9:43:18 PM
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New word is Ezra Miller is still getting canned.

WB wants any relation to the Snyder-verse gone.

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