Current Events > Is Tactics Ogre worth $50?

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Someone told me it's better than FFT in every way so I looked it up on my Switch.

I've got way too many games on the backlog right now to spend $50 on a new game. Plus I'll have more come Christmas.

But once I'm done with that, if it doesn't go on sale between now and then, is it actually worth the price tag?

Yes. It's not better than FFT, but yes.

I feel like you said yes and no at the same time.

Why do I wanna pay $50 for something worse than FFT?

Its on sale this week for $35. Amazon, Best Buy (might be sold out there), Target (ps4 & 5 only) and GameStop.

WarfireX posted...

I feel like you said yes and no at the same time.

Why do I wanna pay $50 for something worse than FFT?

Because being worse than FFT isn't damning. Almost every game is worse than FFT. It is still easily worth $50.

My friend said it's literally better in every way.

Oh wow it is $35 on Amazon..

What do you guys think? Is it worth $35 even though it's worse than FFT?

WarfireX posted...

Oh wow it is $35 on Amazon..

What do you guys think? Is it worth $35 even though it's worse than FFT?

Yes.

WarfireX posted...

My friend said it's literally better in every way.

And he is wrong. It is definitely one of the best games ever made, but FFT is better.

I feel like you just like these tactics RPGs. You keep throwing around the term best game ever made.

A lot of the Amazon reviews are saying that its a downgrade, since its just a game dumbed down to easy mode. Anyone wanna elaborate, or argue against that?

WarfireX posted...

I feel like you just like these tactics RPGs. You keep throwing around the term best game ever made.

I said it literally once, yes.

Get the PSP version. Ninjas and Archers kind of suck in the new version.

No, wait for it to be on sale

Its on sale for 35 on amazon right meow.

Irony posted...

No, wait for it to be on sale

But it is on sale, so should I wait for it to be even more on sale?

This guy I know said it's not as good as FFT, so I'm not sure how much I want to spend on it.

You've got to be trolling.

Do you only buy groceries that are the cream of the crop?

Only go to restaurants that are 3 michelin stars?

If FFT is a 10, TO is 9.5.

Tactics is more like a 9 and this is like a 7

Apparently the remake of TO has a lot of quality of life improvements that make it (right now) a better game to play than FFT. But when the FFT remake drops, if it has the same amount of effort put into it as the TO remake, it will be back on top

Sajo posted...

You've got to be trolling.

Do you only buy groceries that are the cream of the crop?

Only go to restaurants that are 3 michelin stars?

If FFT is a 10, TO is 9.5.

No. But I don't spend my money like an idiot either.

I have over $60K in the bank and over $200K in equity so I don't need financial advice from you either.

But I'm dropping $18K on a car next week and with Christmas shopping I don't want to waste money on a game that's worse than FFT.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Apparently the remake of TO has a lot of quality of life improvements that make it (right now) a better game to play than FFT. But when the FFT remake drops, if it has the same amount of effort put into it as the TO remake, it will be back on top

Wtf, more games that don't need to be remade are being remade?

I would say that if you have the disposable cash, now is the time to get it. A bigger sale isnt likely for awhile.

Its not the best SRPG, but it is pretty good.

arbitrary level limits relegate this to waiting out $20.

The_Popo posted...

that its a downgrade, since its just a game dumbed down to easy mode. Anyone wanna elaborate, or argue against that?

relative to the PSX version, it's easier and significantly less grindy -- and this is a good thing. In the PSX version, you basically had to go into training battles inbetween most story battles (early on) because the level stat was a major factor in the damage equation. Now:

a) everyone in the battle gets the same exp at the end, so your slow knights and healers earn exp at the same rate as your rapid assassins

b) your max level is capped based on storyline progression anyways, so you cannot grind your way out of a difficult fight The people who both complain about capped levels making it too hard and the game being easy in the same breath are silly. Enemy level is roughly at the level cap anyways, they rarely have a significant advantage on you.

c) as a FFT vet, I've still needed to reset/restart about 20% of the storyline battles and try out different team comps or strategies in order to win. It's still sufficiently difficult.

Highly recommend the game. If you like FFT, you'll like this. the degree of unit customization isn't the same (no secondary/R/S/M from cross training), but because your squad is 8-12 people you now customize your composition more. As the Father of FFT, you see a lot of parallels in terms of plotline, characters (Ramza/Alma/Delita vs Denam/Cachua/Vyce), etc.

Branching story paths and a 100-floor postgame "deep dungeon" so there is replay value and postgame content galore.

I notably say this as one who did not play the PSP version. Those two are probably a touch too close, but if you've never played it before (or done only PSX) -- yes yes yes.

Flauros posted...

I would say that if you have the disposable cash, now is the time to get it. A bigger sale isnt likely for awhile.

Its not the best SRPG, but it is pretty good.

This is a good answer.

philsov posted...

relative to the PSX version, it's easier and significantly less grindy -- and this is a good thing. In the PSX version, you basically had to go into training battles inbetween most story battles (early on) because the level stat was a major factor in the damage equation. Now:

a) everyone in the battle gets the same exp at the end, so your slow knights and healers earn exp at the same rate as your rapid assassins

b) your max level is capped based on storyline progression anyways, so you cannot grind your way out of a difficult fight The people who both complain about capped levels making it too hard and the game being easy in the same breath are silly. Enemy level is roughly at the level cap anyways, they rarely have a significant advantage on you.

c) as a FFT vet, I've still needed to reset/restart about 20% of the storyline battles and try out different team comps or strategies in order to win. It's still sufficiently difficult.

Highly recommend the game. If you like FFT, you'll like this. the degree of unit customization isn't the same (no secondary/R/S/M from cross training), but because your squad is 8-12 people you now customize your composition more. As the Father of FFT, you see a lot of parallels in terms of plotline, characters (Ramza/Alma/Delita vs Denam/Cachua/Vyce), etc.

Branching story paths and a 100-floor postgame "deep dungeon" so there is replay value and postgame content galore.

I notably say this as one who did not play the PSP version. Those two are probably a touch too close, but if you've never played it before (or done only PSX) -- yes yes yes.

@philsov

Thanks, I very much appreciate the input. I figured that the Amazon reviews were leaving out a good chunk of info as to just what exactly made it a downgrade/dumbing down. Sounds like its purest stuff, which is fine - but people need to also be tolerant of the improvements.