Current Events > Did you hear that nyc mayor eric adams wants some of the homeless in nyc...

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megamanfreakXD posted...

Some of them don't have a mental illness and are just straight up assholes.

Yeah, some people are jerks. Too bad, welcome to life.

e: to be a little more clear, I guess I don't understand why the actions of some, as you say, should be reflective of the whole. It feels more like you're using the actions of assholes as an excuse for your opinions.

darkprince45 posted...

certain people here will never want to admit there is a population of the homeless that need mental health evaluations. They have severe mental health problems and refuse to take meds or be seen.

This could be a good thing for some of them

gotta agree with this, some of them dont need long term care but they need help stabilizing and getting off the street at least

I think it's necessary especially for those that are deeply mentally ill. I think it needs to be handled by a social worker or physician with assistance by the police. The social worker or physician will be the one in charge and not the police.

I don't mind, many of them don't belong in society and will remain homeless for life. So minus house them someplace they can't harm others or themselves.

That and the less of them on the streets, the more attention and resources we can give to those with the health and mental ability to uo lift themselves.

I think there are two different sets of conversations occurring here with nuanced takes for both:

1. Some unhoused people lack the proper services to treat or manage their mental health. Due to their lack of treatment, they are stuck in a state of homelessness and/or are routinely sent to places like prison where they are not properly treated. A proper response to this would be to increase spending toward mental health services for these individuals (and the greater public at large) which may include reopening special facilities that will manage mental health.
2. Forcibly sending unhoused people to hospitals certainly appears unconstitutional and places an unfair burden on the medical system. While nurses and physicians are certainly better trained at dealing with individuals with mental health disorders, they are not necessarily specifically trained to deal with these individuals. They also clog up the resources of a hospital staff that are already dealing with a lack of nurses which makes it more difficult for the general public to receive care. Again, a proper response would be what is stated above. However, it will actually require the public to support their tax funds going to housing and treating unhoused people and advocating for more individuals to enter careers focused on mental health and support.

As a personal anecdote, I understand what megamanfreak is talking about. I had to go to the emergency room in July for something that was not life-threatening but did need more immediate care. I waited for about 3 hours to get a bed (which maybe doesn't sound bad, but it was 3 am on a Sunday night), and when I was finally in the ER, I noticed that most beds were filled with those seeking help for drugs or mental health. The staff were helping these individuals as best as they can, but it does seem that emergency care has greatly shifted in its focus.

pistachio12 posted...

I think there are two different sets of conversations occurring here with nuanced takes for both:

1. Some unhoused people lack the proper services to treat or manage their mental health. Due to their lack of treatment, they are stuck in a state of homelessness and/or are routinely sent to places like prison where they are not properly treated. A proper response to this would be to increase spending toward mental health services for these individuals (and the greater public at large) which may include reopening special facilities that will manage mental health.
2. Forcibly sending unhoused people to hospitals certainly appears unconstitutional and places an unfair burden on the medical system. While nurses and physicians are certainly better trained at dealing with individuals with mental health disorders, they are not necessarily specifically trained to deal with these individuals. They also clog up the resources of a hospital staff that are already dealing with a lack of nurses which makes it more difficult for the general public to receive care. Again, a proper response would be what is stated above. However, it will actually require the public to support their tax funds going to housing and treating unhoused people and advocating for more individuals to enter careers focused on mental health and support.
As a personal anecdote, I understand what megamanfreak is talking about. I had to go to the emergency room in July for something that was not life-threatening but did need more immediate care. I waited for about 3 hours to get a bed (which maybe doesn't sound bad, but it was 3 am on a Sunday night), and when I was finally in the ER, I noticed that most beds were filled with those seeking help for drugs or mental health. The staff were helping these individuals as best as they can, but it does seem that emergency care has greatly shifted in its focus.

You are lucky it is only 3 hours. The patients I admitted 24 hours ago are still in the ED with no bed.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Not all homeless people are mentally unwell. Some are just poor people who dont have a job.

And substance abusers

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thronedfire2 posted...

This would work fine if rehab facilities werent always underfunded and understaffed

Ive seen these places as a volunteer they are not somewhere anyone would want to be. The problems that caused the original dissolution of the larger facilities still exist en masse.

Irony posted...

This is literally a Futurama joke

Futurama does take place in NYC.