Current Events > Why do people not care what a beggar does with donated money?

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TheOtherMike posted...

That's youtube users, not youtube. Regardless, this doesn't change anything I said, it just means you and these users are using words wrong.

these beggars are faking being injured and/or being homeless so you might as well call them fake beggars

are they begging?

BalloonBattle05 posted...

these beggars are faking being injured and/or being homeless so you might as well call them fake beggars

Sure, you might as well if you want to be wrong.

TheOtherMike posted...

Sure, you might as well if you want to be wrong.

they are faking being crippled or homeless so fake beggar may not be the correct term to use but its the most descriptive way to describe them, because they are faking being in need. This is why every article and YouTube video would call them fake even if its the incorrect way to describe them.

Fluttershy posted...

are they begging?

lets just put it this way. They are begging for money so they would fit under a definition of a beggar but saying real beggar implies to the majority of people that they are homeless or crippled for real instead of pretending to be in need for fraud purposes.

BalloonBattle05 posted...

they are faking being in need

No they aren't. If they're begging, they're in need. People who aren't in need aren't begging in the first place. Lying about or exaggerating their circumstances doesn't change that.

TheOtherMike posted...

No they aren't. If they're begging, they're in need. People who aren't in need aren't begging in the first place. Lying about or exaggerating their circumstances doesn't change that.

so people cannot pretend to be homeless in order to get money from others

They are begging for money so they would fit under a definition of a beggar

they're a real beggar.

BalloonBattle05 posted...

so people cannot pretend to be homeless in order to get money from others

No one said this.

TheOtherMike posted...

No they aren't. If they're begging, they're in need. People who aren't in need aren't begging in the first place. Lying about or exaggerating their circumstances doesn't change that.

This is where I will agree with him. I mentioned earlier iirc a woman who would chase off the homeless (call the cops on them cause without a permit panhandling was illegal) meanwhile asking for donations for some charity that was fake all to pad her pockets. She was well off

I also remember a video of a guy who was a professional beggar. Said on a good year he could clear 80k panhandling and he had this video to give tips on how to do it. Truth be told it did look hard just easy compared to most jobs. Downside being there was no guarantees.

BalloonBattle05 posted...

they are faking being crippled or homeless so fake beggar may not be the correct term to use but its the most descriptive way to describe them, because they are faking being in need. This is why every article and YouTube video would call them fake even if its the incorrect way to describe them.

lets just put it this way. They are begging for money so they would fit under a definition of a beggar but saying real beggar implies to the majority of people that they are homeless or crippled for real instead of pretending to be in need for fraud purposes.

As I said before a liar or a fraud would be a more apt term to call them. But the simple act of begging makes one a beggar.

Fluttershy posted...

They are begging for money so they would fit under a definition of a beggar

they're a real beggar.

they may be begging but real beggar implies they are actually homeless or crippled and are not pretending for fraud purposes.

even if its the correct term to describe them, its a huge misinformer

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they may be begging but real beggar implies they are actually

begging lol.

are they begging?

Kim_Seong-a posted...

Oh no, the panhandler fleeced me out of a dollar, how will I ever afford that mcdouble now

lol right like im not expecting a return on helping someone with less money than me.

I just completely stop donating. Hard to differentiate between a homeless person and a peddler nowadays.

Fluttershy posted...

they may be begging but real beggar implies they are actually

begging lol.

are they begging?

why do you always cut out portions of someones message?

no wonder why you ignore facts

are they begging to fraud people or are they actually homeless?

if yes, theyre not a real beggar because theyre not actually in need

BalloonBattle05 posted...

why do you always cut out portions of someones message?

no wonder why you ignore facts

are they begging to fraud people or are they actually homeless?

if yes, theyre not a real beggar because theyre not actually in need

Begging isn't about being In need. It's a act. A verb. And doing it makes you a beggar.

I've begged people for cigarettes before. Do I need a cigarette? As much as I need a heart attack but still I did it. And I would say in that moment I was a beggar.

are they begging

lol, i don't know. it's your dude. are they?

Sufferedphoneix posted...

Begging isn't about being In need. It's a act. A verb. And doing it makes you a beggar.

I've begged people for cigarettes before. Do I need a cigarette? As much as I need a heart attack but still I did it. And I would say in that moment I was a beggar.

you are a beggar if you ask people for things but are you doing it to con people and take advantage of them or are you actually in need and would actually use the thing for what you claim its for is the question

BalloonBattle05 posted...

are they begging to fraud people or are they actually homeless?

Being homeless isn't a prerequisite to begging.

BalloonBattle05 posted...

you are a beggar if you ask people for things but are you doing it to con people and take advantage of them or are you actually in need and would actually use the thing for what you claim its for is the question

As said I don't need cigarettes but in my youth I would ask even random people for one. I feel that makes me a beggar.

As far as money goes everyone needs money even if they already have enough to survive on. If they are begging for it surely there is something they are after that requires money. More money than they got. People will lie cause they feel sympathy will get them money more easily.

Hell they could be truly in need and still lie. As they feel the sympathy card is effective.

I brought up a video or TV episode early where a guy explains how to be an effective beggar and one tip was to have no shame. His example though was sitting at bus stop or something and begging school kids for their change from lunch

I totally don't mind if my donated money goes towards drugs. Their life is miserable, drugs provide them some brief happiness.

Dan_Haren- posted...

I totally don't mind if my donated money goes towards drugs. Their life is miserable, drugs provide them some brief happiness.

Made me think of a weird realization I had at rehab. Drugs are called dope cause dopamine. Idk if true but it would be a hell of a coincidence if not.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

As far as money goes everyone needs money even if they already have enough to survive on. If they are begging for it surely there is something they are after that requires money. More money than they got. People will lie cause they feel sympathy will get them money more easily.

Hell they could be truly in need and still lie. As they feel the sympathy card is effective.

or they could simply just pocket the money and laugh about it or just be doing it for free money

Yes, beggers beg for free money. Not sure why you think that's a revelation.

BalloonBattle05 posted...

or they could simply just pocket the money and laugh about it or just be doing it for free money

Unlikely. Not impossible but unlikely. People who don't need the money would typically rather do more enjoyable activities

Sufferedphoneix posted...

Unlikely. Not impossible but unlikely. People who don't need the money would typically rather do more enjoyable activities

many people including me wouldnt do it but youll be surprised at how many people are kind to beggars