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Youre missing a few.

None worth considering.

Eh, maybe Lower Decks, but that's about it.

Youre missing a few.

I really like Voyager and early Deep Space Nine

Lower Decks.

Early DS9 was garbage

Voted original. Just something about it...

Early DS9 was garbage. It only improved when they added The Defiant and brought in The Dominion War.

As much as I loathe DS9 it does have my all time favourite episode of Trek in Sacrifice Of Angels.

Having missed the DS9 train, what was great about it compared to other versions?

The only decent thing about DS9 was The Dominion War. The rest was just utter garbage.

With the exception of Jadzia Dax, Elim Garak and Quark, the crew were just utter crap and abysmal (Worf and Miles Edward O'Brien do not count as they are superior TNG characters).

The Spacestation setting got old fast which is why they brought in The Defiant. Proving yet again that a Starship is better than a Spacestation.

I couldn't stand that whole Prophets and Pah-Wraiths shit and nonsense. The Sisko this and The Sisko that! Oh shut up. That got old after the first two times.

Oh look lets all go around and grab each others ears to check their "Pagh" or whatever that crap nonsense was!

Who ever it was that thought that Vic freaking Fontaine was a good idea should be banned from television.

The whole premise was utter garbage.

The only time I rewatch DS9 is when I am rewatching The Dominion War, Mirror Universe (except for The Emperors New Cloak) Trials And Tribble-Ations and Civil Defense.

This is perfectly true but during it's first run it was flopping badly. It was only after it finished it's run that it became popular.

Whole thing put in spoilers as a precaution.

Deep Space Nine closely followed by The Next Generation

Nope not missing any at all.

Youre missing a few.

The only decent thing about DS9 was The Dominion War. The rest was just utter garbage.

With the exception of Jadzia Dax, Elim Garak and Quark, the crew were just utter crap and abysmal (Worf and Miles Edward O'Brien do not count as they are superior TNG characters).

The Spacestation setting got old fast which is why they brought in The Defiant. Proving yet again that a Starship is better than a Spacestation.

I couldn't stand that whole Prophets and Pah-Wraiths shit and nonsense. The Sisko this and The Sisko that! Oh shut up. That got old after the first two times.

Oh look lets all go around and grab each others ears to check their "Pagh" or whatever that crap nonsense was!

Who ever it was that thought that Vic freaking Fontaine was a good idea should be banned from television.

The whole premise was utter garbage.

The only time I rewatch DS9 is when I am rewatching The Dominion War, Mirror Universe (except for The Emperors New Cloak) Trials And Tribble-Ations and Civil Defense.

This is perfectly true but during it's first run it was flopping badly. It was only after it finished it's run that it became popular.

Whole thing put in spoilers as a precaution.

Avery Brooks can't act.

Thanks for saving us the time we would have spent reading the rest of your post by saying something this wrong right from the start.

Deep Space Nine closely followed by The Next Generation

Ds9 has the best villain Gul Dukat

I agree with this a lot.

Avery Brooks can't act.
Nana Visitor is unbearable in season 1 (I think she's great outside that).
The dialogue is infantile. The scene where Sisko leaves Jake on DS9 while they are evacuating is pure cringe, as an example.
Again, Star Trek should be about TREKKING the stars. Every series which breaks this rule is lesser because of it (DS9 least of all, but still).
Baseball.
Jesus allegory.

Some of the plot, not the writing but the plot, is inspired. But you have to excise so much fluff to pretend the series is good. It's peak nerd-bait, similar to the PT in Star Wars which is praised for the simple fact that there is a plot, and that's somehow inpressive in the genre.

Garak and Quark, Armin Shimerman in particular, carry the series HARD. Odo keeps the series interesting and Jadzia sets the background. And, yeah, the Klingon plots are strong carryovers from TNG. Miles sees his breakout here, but is plagued with writers who don't know how to keep him consistent.

I would love DS9 as a book series (maybe minus the savior complex). As a TV show, it has major flaws. In retrospect, it ruined the episodic style of Star Trek until Lower Decks.

1. Oh look lets plagiarise and copy Babylon 5 an idea that we the execs at Paramount originally rejected after J. Michael Straczynski proposed it to us in 1991.
2. Lets set it on a Space Station with the characters not going any bloody where thus alienating all the fans of TOS and TNG who grew up with the idea that Star Trek was about a Captain on a Starship travelling The Galaxy not being stuck on a Space Station not going any bloody where.
3. Quick lets bring in the Defiant to try and win back the fans of TOS and TNG and it worked! Proving yet again a Starship is the way to go over some shit Space Station.
4. Only a Commander can be in charge of a Spacestation! Quick lets make Sisko Captain to again try win over fans of TOS and TNG! Thus changing the original premise of the series.
5. The cast and crew (with the exception of Jadzia, Quark and Garak (OBrien doesnt count as he is a superior TNG crewman)) were so crap and pathetic that the creators freely admit that Worf was brought in to try and win back ratings and viewers.
6. Sisko was so shit as Captain it was unbelieveable. Even the creators could see just how crap he was which is why they tried to change him in to Hawk a character Avery Brooks played in the TV shows Spencer: For Hire and A Man Called Hawk.
7. I agree with one commentator when he said that The Dominion story arc killed Star Trek. It made absolutely fantastic TV but then having to see Janeway and Archer go back to the old ways of trying to talk your way out of a fight just seemed dull and boring in comparison.
8. Another way The Dominion Arc almost killed Star Trek was that Seasons 5, 6 and 7 especially Seasons 6 and 7 suffered terribly because of it. Ill explain. take season 6 after the opening 6 parter only 3 episodes dealt with The Dominion War which meant the rest of the season was filled with utter shit, drivel, fluff and filler episodes. Same for Season 7. It is the only way to explain utter gems and Classics(note extreme sarcasm) in You Are Cordially Invited, Far Beyond The Stars (never watched by me never will), Profit And Lace, The Sound Of Her Voice, Times Orphan, Take Me Out To The Holosuite (Never watched by me and never will) (Oh look we are currently in the middle of a war that we are getting our asses kicked in what shall we do? Oh I know lets invite a Vulcan Captain to a game of that Americanized version of Rounders.), Badda-Bing Badda Bang, Prodigal Daughter (Even the creators apologised for that mess) and Chimera.
9. They destroyed Gul Dukat and Kai Winn by turning them into moustache twirling cartoon villains.
10. I hated the Bajorans and all their Prophets and Pah-Wraiths shit and nonsense. The Sisko this and The Sisko that oh shut up. That got boring after the first two episodes. Also why was Sisko emissary when it was both him and Dax that discovered the wormhole.
11. What You Leave Behind was a terrible way to end the series. They build up the amazing Dominion War Arc then rush through it in less than 20 minutes just so they could put a closure to all that Dukat, Winn Pah-Wraiths shit and nonsense and then the creators realized they had to pad it out to 88 minutes so added all that goodbye to the cast crap. So glad Voyager got it right.
12. Twice Babylon 5 won best Sci-Fi show over DS9 showing once again how crap DS9 was and B5 was a show in constant danger of being axed.
13. The theme tune was absolute shit. So much so that they had to remix it TWICE during it's run. They didn't need to do that to the superior theme tunes to TNG and Voyager.

Take Me Out To The Holosuite (Never watched by me and never will)

Blasphemy

Why the fuck would I be interested in an episode where they go off and play that shit sport that is nothing but an Americanized version of Rounders.

Tell me would you be interested in an episode of a British series where the characters go off to play Football or Rugby or Cricket or Darts or Snooker?

Baseball is a very very very very minor sport in Britain. It is currently only played by 22,500 people in Britain.

You need to remeber that what is popular in one country isn't popular in another.

And oh look it is the guy who thinks Harry Kim is a great character. That makes all your posts invalid.

The actual sport has literally nothing to do with why the episode is amazing. Baseball sucks balls, which is why it's great that very little time in the episode is focused on the actual plays. >_>

Thanks for saving us the time we would have spent reading the rest of your post by saying something this wrong right from the start.