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SodomInsane
11/08/22 10:30:34 AM
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https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2022/11/07/maureen-dowd-be-ready-marjorie/

Are we ready for our new Republican overlords? Are we ready for an empowered Marjorie Taylor Greene? Are we ready for a pumped-up, pistol-packing Lauren Boebert? How many AR-15s do you think Jesus would have had? Boebert asked a crowd at a Christian campaign event in June. Im going with none, honestly, but her answer was, Well, he didnt have enough to keep his government from killing him. The Denver Post pleaded, We beg voters in western and southern Colorado not to give Rep. Lauren Boebert their vote. The freshman representative has recently been predicting happily that were in the end times, the last of the last days. If Boebert is in charge, we may want to be in the end times. Im feeling not so Rapturous about the prospect. And then theres the future first female president, Kari Lake, who lulls you into believing, with her mellifluous voice, statements that seem to emanate from Lucifer. Shes dangerous because, like Donald Trump, she has real skills from her years in TV. And she really believes this stuff, unlike Trump and Kevin McCarthy, who are faking it.

Speaking of Paradise Lost, how about Ron DeSantis? The governor of Florida, whos running for a second term, is airing an ad that suggests that he was literally anointed by God to fight Democrats. God almighty, thats some high-level endorsement. Much to our national shame, it looks like these over-the-top and way, way, way out of the mainstream Republicans and the formerly normie and now creepy Republicans who have bent the knee to the wackos out of political expediency are going to be running the House, maybe the Senate and certainly some states, perhaps even some that Joe Biden won two years ago. And it looks as if McCarthy will finally realize his goal of becoming speaker, but when he speaks, it will be Greene, Jim Jordan and Boebert doing the spewing. It will be like the devil growling through Linda Blair in The Exorcist except it will be our heads spinning. Welcome to a rogues gallery of crazy: Clay Higgins, whos spouting conspiracy theories about Paul Pelosi, wants to run the House Homeland Security Committee; Paul Gosar, whose own family has begged Arizonans to eject him from Congress, will be persona grata in the new majority. In North Carolina, Bo Hines, a Republican candidate for the House, wants community panels to decide whether rape victims are able to get abortions or not. Hes building on Dr. Ozs dictum that local politicians should help make that call. Even Oprah turned on her creation, Dr. Odd.

Im not ready for this. I dont know what happened to the Dems candidates that led to this possibility.

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Nosferatu_Zodd
11/08/22 10:32:47 AM
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Dem leadership is inept, spineless, too old, and too moderate.

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Solar_Crimson
11/08/22 10:34:16 AM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...
Dem leadership is inept, spineless, too old, and too moderate.


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ScazarMeltex
11/08/22 10:35:57 AM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...
Dem leadership is inept, spineless, too old, and too moderate.
This and decades of gerrymandering and voter suppression.

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SodomInsane
11/08/22 10:37:59 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
This and decades of gerrymandering and voter suppression.

That explains the House. It doesnt for the Senate where you cant Gerrymander. And I imagine Dems could go to the big cities to try to empower voters.

I would have thought Dr Oz and Walker would be blowout races for the Dems. But apparently they are toss ups right now.

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DipDipDiver
11/08/22 10:41:31 AM
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How many AR-15s do you think Jesus would have had? Boebert asked a crowd at a Christian campaign event in June. Im going with none, honestly, but her answer was, Well, he didnt have enough to keep his government from killing him.

I do not think she understood that story
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CyricZ
11/08/22 10:44:31 AM
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"Fascism is taking over America. Here's how it's the Democrats' fault."

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Garioshi
11/08/22 10:55:28 AM
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SodomInsane posted...
It doesnt for the Senate where you cant Gerrymander.
The Senate is also rigged. Californian senators each represent 20 million people and Wyoming's represent about 300,000.

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RchHomieQuanChi
11/08/22 10:58:31 AM
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SodomInsane posted...
It doesnt for the Senate where you cant Gerrymander. And I imagine Dems could go to the big cities to try to empower voters.

The problem with the Senate is how deeply unrepresentative it is. It's laughably stupid that a place like Wyoming holds the same amount of power in the Senate as somewhere like California considering the massive difference in population size.

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masterpug53
11/08/22 10:59:46 AM
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DipDipDiver posted...
How many AR-15s do you think Jesus would have had? Boebert asked a crowd at a Christian campaign event in June. Im going with none, honestly, but her answer was, Well, he didnt have enough to keep his government from killing him.

I do not think she understood that story

What this woman doesn't know could fill the Library of Congress that she will eventually help burn to the ground.

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SodomInsane
11/08/22 11:00:31 AM
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Garioshi posted...
The Senate is also rigged. Californian senators each represent 20 million people and Wyoming's represent about 300,000.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The problem with the Senate is how deeply unrepresentative it is. It's laughably stupid that a place like West Virginia holds the same amount of power in the Senate as somewhere like California considering the massive difference in population size.


Wasnt it made that way as a check to the House which is based off population size. You can Gerrymander. Or iirc the GOP took advantage of rules and banned immigrants from being counted. Causing CA and NY to lose house seats.

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theAteam
11/08/22 11:00:51 AM
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DipDipDiver posted...
How many AR-15s do you think Jesus would have had? Boebert asked a crowd at a Christian campaign event in June. Im going with none, honestly, but her answer was, Well, he didnt have enough to keep his government from killing him.

I do not think she understood that story

Some politicians are called dumb because of their party or a gaffe. That woman is actually stupid.

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uwnim
11/08/22 11:01:50 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The problem with the Senate is how deeply unrepresentative it is. It's laughably stupid that a place like Wyoming holds the same amount of power in the Senate as somewhere like California considering the massive difference in population size.
That was intended. What wasnt intended was the size of the house to freeze. It was supposed to continue increasing with population growth.

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FortuneCookie
11/08/22 11:13:25 AM
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Wrong topic. Whoops.
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mybbqrules
11/08/22 11:23:33 AM
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Garioshi posted...
The Senate is also rigged. Californian senators each represent 20 million people and Wyoming's represent about 300,000.
This.

The population of California is equal to about 15 lesser MAGA states.

They have 30 senators representing the same number of people as us having two. New York is also fucked in that regard.

If representation was equal to population, we'd have a supermajority in the Senate right now.

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Strider102
11/08/22 11:32:52 AM
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I suddenly want to see a movie with Jesus dual wielding AR-15s, quoting the Word of God as he shot bullets that look like crosses at his enemies.

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Popcorn2000
11/08/22 11:37:32 AM
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CyricZ posted...
"Fascism is taking over America. Here's how it's the Democrats' fault."

basically

shits super lazy

dems Fault republicans are racist racist shitstains?
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CyricZ
11/08/22 12:23:44 PM
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By they way I don't mean to say that "the Democrats" bear no responsibility.

Only that EVERYONE who is of voting age in the country bears responsibility if this country slides into fascism.

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Humble_Novice
11/08/22 12:28:28 PM
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CyricZ posted...
By they way I don't mean to say that "the Democrats" bear no responsibility.

Only that EVERYONE who is of voting age in the country bears responsibility if this country slides into fascism.
Especially the people who refused to vote blue.
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Guns_of_Verdun
11/08/22 12:30:10 PM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...
Dem leadership is inept, spineless, too old, and too moderate.
*Republicans are objectively awful*

"See the problem here is the Dems."

I will never understand this logic

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Nosferatu_Zodd
11/08/22 12:37:01 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
*Republicans are objectively awful*

"See the problem here is the Dems."

I will never understand this logic

Because the Dems aren't doing enough to energize their base. If we had leaders and candidates our base could get excited about like the GOP does for their base it wouldn't matter how rancid the GOP has become, we would blow them out of the water every election cycle. But the few compelling leftists we have are buried by the establishment. I can't stand it.

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Antifar
11/08/22 12:49:07 PM
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God knows I have issues with the Democratic Party, but there's no Democrat who could win most of the districts in question here. And at any rate, the quality of the Democratic candidate is irrelevant to people to who only ever see them through the prism of right wing media.

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Nosferatu_Zodd
11/08/22 12:56:04 PM
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Antifar posted...
God knows I have issues with the Democratic Party, but there's no Democrat who could win most of the districts in question here. And at any rate, the quality of the Democratic candidate is irrelevant to people to who only ever see them through the prism of right wing media.

They don't need to win most, they just need to win the ones they CAN win. They shouldn't be struggling to win swing states against the GOP lunatics that are running, but the situation is so dire that they had to being Obama back to stump for these candidates, because he is the last Dem leader that we were excited about.

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argonautweakend
11/08/22 12:57:09 PM
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Greene and Boebert are the two most do-nothing politicians I have ever seen. All they do is talk crazy stuff but I don't know if they have actually gotten anything at all done.
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Nosferatu_Zodd
11/08/22 12:57:54 PM
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Obviously fuck the GOP, but it is what it is. Rather than concern myself with the deplorables ever deciding to not be deplorable, we should just, oh I don't know, make our party exciting and attractive rather than just being the party of "well at least we're not THEM."

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Antifar
11/08/22 12:58:26 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
Greene and Boebert are the two most do-nothing politicians I have ever seen. All they do is talk crazy stuff but I don't know if they have actually gotten anything at all done.
Unless my timing is off, they've also never served in a congress controlled by the GOP.

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CyricZ
11/08/22 12:58:46 PM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...
Rather than concern myself with the deplorables ever deciding to not be deplorable, we should just, oh I don't know, make our party exciting and attractive rather than just being the party of "well at least we're not THEM."
I'm interested in hearing your ideas of how.

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Agent_Stroud
11/08/22 12:59:08 PM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...
They don't need to win most, they just need to win the ones they CAN win. They shouldn't be struggling to win swing states against the GOP lunatics that are running, but the situation is so dire that they had to being Obama back to stump for these candidates, because he is the last Dem leader that we were excited about.

Not that excited if you view the responses to his advice to Democrats in the topic below.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/80201525

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SodomInsane
11/08/22 12:59:21 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
Greene and Boebert are the two most do-nothing politicians I have ever seen. All they do is talk crazy stuff but I don't know if they have actually gotten anything at all done.

Dems controlled the House. If GOP control house some of their bills could be put to a vote now. And AOC will be the all talk get nothing done politician.

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Nosferatu_Zodd
11/08/22 1:06:35 PM
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CyricZ posted...
I'm interested in hearing your ideas of how.

You pride yourself on being an intelligent person. I'm sure you could think of a few simple solutions on your own. Unless you are satisfied with the status quo that is.

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Rexdragon125
11/08/22 1:07:01 PM
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Dems don't have multiple media empires funded by billionaires to brainwash and condition people into raging at the other side
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CyricZ
11/08/22 1:10:26 PM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...
You pride yourself on being an intelligent person. I'm sure you could think of a few simple solutions on your own. Unless you are satisfied with the status quo that is.
"You figure it out. I don't want to." you say?

Here's an easy few.

A Democrat Congress will codify Roe vs. Wade.
A Democrat Congress will pass voting rights reforms.
A Democrat Congress will codify anti-discrimination laws.

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KhlavicLanguage
11/08/22 1:13:21 PM
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america deserves to slide into fascism tbh, it has proven over and over again that a supermajority of its population is either apathetic or supportive of such

glad i have canadian dual-citizenship so i can just frick off
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Antifar
11/08/22 1:14:27 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
a supermajority of its population
Citation needed on this one

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SodomInsane
11/08/22 1:19:33 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
america deserves to slide into fascism tbh, it has proven over and over again that a supermajority of its population is either apathetic or supportive of such

glad i have canadian dual-citizenship so i can just frick off

Biden can still veto stuff. So GOP wont have all the power.

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ShotWaifu
11/08/22 1:23:24 PM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...
Dem leadership is inept, spineless, too old, and too moderate.

They also wanted this
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KhlavicLanguage
11/08/22 1:23:50 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
Biden can still veto stuff. So GOP wont have all the power.
so the plan is to clench your asses every 4 years and hope to get a democratic executive branch to delay the backslide a little longer?
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dud
11/08/22 1:25:15 PM
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Imagine if the democrats actually had a unified vision and rallied around stuff like single payer healthcare and making marijuana legal

Instead their big midterm promise is to solidify rights that were rolled back that they had ample opportunity to solidify in the past

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Pepys_Monster
11/08/22 1:26:01 PM
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Our president is an ancient, crumbling man who falls going up stairs and cant give a single speech without several gaffes.

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ShotWaifu
11/08/22 1:27:42 PM
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Democrats run to make extra profits
Republicans run to have all the power

Do not be mistaken. Democrats do not fear a loss nearly a quarter as much as republicans do. In fact, they still gain from it.

This is why I hope the system itself just burns down. Fuck conservatism, neoliberalism, and oligarchs. We desperately need a progressive party to take over for the waste of the democrat party and then just attack the republican party head-on in every election.
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Nosferatu_Zodd
11/08/22 1:34:07 PM
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dud posted...
Imagine if the democrats actually had a unified vision and rallied around stuff like single payer healthcare and making marijuana legal

Instead their big midterm promise is to solidify rights that were rolled back that they had ample opportunity to solidify in the past



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ZevLoveDOOM
11/08/22 1:35:05 PM
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i would rather get ass cancer than readying myself for the Marjorie Taylor Gangreening or whatever...
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Nosferatu_Zodd
11/08/22 1:37:05 PM
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ShotWaifu
11/08/22 1:49:48 PM
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Boombam99
11/08/22 2:05:03 PM
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How many AR-15s do you think Jesus would have had? Boebert asked a crowd at a Christian campaign event in June. Im going with none, honestly, but her answer was, Well, he didnt have enough to keep his government from killing him.

I never thought I would exist in a country where an elected politician actually said this and it wasnt a part of some sort of SNL comedy skit
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RchHomieQuanChi
11/08/22 2:11:26 PM
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Exactly. I think plenty of non-voters clearly realize that the right has gone off the deep end, but the general impression I get is that they don't think Dems will actually do (or even CAN do) enough to stop it so why bother.

You have to convince these people that it's worth it for them to stand in line for potentially hours (cause certain states, like mine, have near-impossibly strict restrictions for mail-in ballots and dropboxes hours away) for an outcome that they realistically don't have much control over. And even if the side they pick DOES win, let's be honest...Democrats have not done a great job of addressing and implementing the things that people actually want.

Like yes, protecting democracy is extremely important but let's be honest and admit...American democracy is kind of a farce in the first place and always will be so long as we have a 2-party system, first-past-the-post voting and corporate money heavily influencing elections.

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Ruvan22
11/09/22 6:18:43 PM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...

To be clear, you feel if the Democrats had emphasized single payer health and marijuana legalization INSTEAD of abortion rights, they would have energized their base enough to win some swing areas? Which counties/states are those?
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Halo478
11/09/22 6:22:30 PM
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CyricZ posted...
"Fascism is taking over America. Here's how it's the Democrats' fault."


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