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And I can't take soccer seriously as long as they are used to decide a winner if necessary. And no amount of appealing to popularity of the sport as a whole is going to change my mind.

You can't take a sport where ties happen frequently seriously?

Carlbertomfg posted...

You can't take a sport where ties happen frequently seriously?

When it's seen as an acceptable outcome most of the time and when ties are broken in the lamest way possible when necessary? No.

Your solution is prolly golden goal/sudden death but it's proven all it did was slow down the tempo of the game because teams would refrain from being aggressive on the attack cause they didn't want to get scored on so they would "park the bus"

Honestly pk's aren't so bad, it's adds more drama and suspense to the game. Or better yet who on england is gonna do the bottle job this year.

MLS Cup was crazy.

It's imperfect and I, personally, would prefer if the old MLS shootout were to be adopted more widely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRITqS6WEn0

The thing that made it difficult to take it seriously for me was the flopping.

What if after 90 min tie the goalies are taken out

Antifar posted...

It's imperfect and I, personally, would prefer if the old MLS shootout were to be adopted more widely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRITqS6WEn0

Lol i remember how cringe it was.
Glad they realized how dumb and dangerous this was and moved to traditional pks.

Penalty kicks are kind of weird because in most cases the goalie cannot react fast enough to be skilled. they either have to guess the right side or the kicker must have a tell.

But you can't expect players to run like that for much more than 120 minutes if the game has to be decided

if you hate shootouts you'd fucking hate how major league soccer used to do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRITqS6WEn0

I this this is neat, but people are saying if the players were more skilled they would score nearly all of the time.

OH SHIT SOMEBODY ALREADY MENTIONED THIS

ShineboxPhil posted...

Your solution is prolly golden goal/sudden death but it's proven all it did was slow down the tempo of the game because teams would refrain from being aggressive on the attack cause they didn't want to get scored on so they would "park the bus"

Honestly pk's aren't so bad, it's adds more drama and suspense to the game. Or better yet who on england is gonna do the bottle job this year.

Honestly I think championship soccer matches should allow infinite substitutions to nix the fatigue argument and or if necessary start taking players off the field in extra time.

I'll never understand how big events in a team sport bases around 11 v 11 can end in a series of one on one encounters.

SodomInsane posted...

The thing that made it difficult to take it seriously for me was the flopping.

Flopping exists in every sport.
They do it in the nba and nhl.
At least in football/soccer they now use VAR to see if players are guilty of diving.

ShineboxPhil posted...

Flopping exists in every sport.
They do it in the nba and nhl.
At least in football/soccer they now use VAR to see if players are guilty of diving.

I think FIBA tournaments give out the equivalent of a red card if basketball players are caught flopping but I'm not 100% sure.

ShineboxPhil posted...

Flopping exists in every sport.
They do it in the nba and nhl.
At least in football/soccer they now use VAR to see if players are guilty of diving.

Those sports arent as bad as soccers flopping. They dont have sniper videos like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w68_1HV4l8M

Flopping in soccer dramatically lessens in the post-season. Which is the only soccer worth watching anyway.

real leagues dont have a dang "post season"

Pks are not easy either.
A lot of pressure goes into taking them.
Watch the 2005 champions league final and see how Dudek became a god shutting down ac milan.

SodomInsane posted...

Those sports arent as bad as soccers flopping. They dont have sniper videos like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w68_1HV4l8M

Oh look i can find videos on youtube too
https://youtu.be/9_GEgGXE1zU

what if after 90 minutes if its a tie, they put in a 2nd ball

What if after 90 minutes the ref thinks of a number from 1 to 100 and whoever guesses closest wins

They should start adding balls to the field every 5 minutes past 90 minutes of regulation time

Blue_Popo posted...

what if after 90 minutes if its a tie, they put in a 2nd ball

Damn. Someone already mentioned it

WilliamPorygon posted...

What if after 90 minutes the ref thinks of a number from 1 to 100 and whoever guesses closest wins

As effective as penalty kicks

When MLS first started they tried to "Americanize" it by having things like a countdown clock and using methods to resolve tied (or as we say in Britain drawn) games even for league matches.

But all of that went down like a cold plate of sick to all the traditionalist FOOTBALL fans.

So after going almost bankrupt MLS decided to drop all their attempts to "Americanize" the sport and adopt the International Football Association Board (IFAB) rules and since then the MLS has flourished.

What do you expect them to do? Play on until somebody scores? Which was actually a way of settling matches in England during the 1940's. In 1946 a match between Stockport County and Doncaster Rovers lasted 3 hours and 23 minutes. They had to stop when the sun set and it was too dark to play on as floodlights didn't exist then. But it was dropped a few months after that game as nobody liked that rule.

They tried "The Golden Goal and " The Silver Goal". With Golden Goal when a team scored in Extra Time it was game over. No one liked it so they tried Silver Goal where if a team scored in Extra Time the game didn't end there and then but ended at the end of the half (period).

No penalty kicks are fine for settling matches.

You are in the minority for not liking them.

CassandraCroft posted...

When MLS first started they tried to "Americanize" it by having things like a countdown clock and using methods to resolve tied (or as we say in Britain drawn) games even for league matches.

But all of that went down like a cold plate of sick to all the traditionalist FOOTBALL fans.

So after going almost bankrupt MLS decided to drop all their attempts to "Americanize" the sport and adopt the International Football Association Board (IFAB) rules and since then the MLS has flourished.

What do you expect them to do? Play on until somebody scores? Which was actually a way of settling matches in England during the 1940's. In 1946 a match between Stockport County and Doncaster Rovers lasted 3 hours and 23 minutes. They had to stop when the sun set and it was too dark to play on as floodlights didn't exist then. But it was dropped a few months after that game as nobody liked that rule.

They tried "The Golden Goal and " The Silver Goal". With Golden Goal when a team scored in Extra Time it was game over. No one liked it so they tried Silver Goal where if a team scored in Extra Time the game didn't end there and then but ended at the end of the half (period).

No penalty kicks are fine for settling matches.

You are in the minority for not liking them.

See post 11

Fuck penalty kicks.