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TooSoon
11/06/22 10:30:44 AM
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Holy shit at that ending lol
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Stallion_Prime
11/06/22 10:32:28 AM
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Because bayonettas story was always shit.

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dancing_cactuar
11/06/22 10:33:24 AM
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Because those are two games aiming to do completely different things?

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Irony
11/06/22 10:33:41 AM
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Because Bayonetta is a very niche series and most people have already stated that its story and ending are complete trash.

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ssk9716757
11/06/22 10:38:03 AM
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Whats so bad about the ending?

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TooSoon
11/06/22 10:40:15 AM
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ssk9716757 posted...
Whats so bad about the ending?

Bayo and Jeanne are dead. New tomboy character is the next "bayonetta". Also MCU multiverse shenanigans.
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s0nicfan
11/06/22 10:40:36 AM
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Mass effect 3 is always going to be a bit of a special case in terms of bad endings, not just because it just made you choose by hitting a button, but also because it was the end of the trilogy that claimed your choices across all 3 games were really going to matter. While most people probably didn't really believe that promise, I think a lot of people still held out a little bit of hope.

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markconig
11/06/22 10:41:44 AM
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Because Mass Effects big claim to fame was how its story spanned across 3 games and your choices in game 1 would affect game 3.

Everyone knows Bayonetta's story is bad, not a single person is playing those games for the story. I thought Bayo 3 ending wasn't that bad because I couldn't care less about the story in the first place.

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Akagami_Shanks
11/06/22 10:42:32 AM
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people would have to play bayonetta in the first place

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Prestoff
11/06/22 10:46:39 AM
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For starters, I think Mass Effect 1 sold more than the Bayonetta Trilogy...

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Ivynn
11/06/22 11:18:58 AM
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Because people aren't playing Bayonetta for story.

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JuanCarlos1
11/06/22 11:23:31 AM
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You play bayo the story?

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CruelBuffalo
11/06/22 11:27:50 AM
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Couldnt mass effect just be making commentary that basically in the grand scheme of things your choices are meaningless?
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Funkydog
11/07/22 6:48:14 PM
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It's a game that was never about the story.
Less popular
I've not heard a single good thing about 3's story and only heard a unaminous agreement that it shits over her entire character and is garbage.

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AirFresh
11/07/22 6:50:54 PM
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Funkydog posted...
It's a game that was never about the story.
Less popular
I've not heard a single good thing about 3's story and only heard a unaminous agreement that it shits over her entire character and is garbage.
Those people are idiots. She's more Bayonetta in 3 than she is in 2. They're just mad she's straight and Luka wins the Bayo Bowl.

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Funkydog
11/07/22 6:54:18 PM
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AirFresh posted...
Those people are idiots. She's more Bayonetta in 3 than she is in 2. They're just mad she's straight and Luka wins the Bayo Bowl.
You're the first person I know to say this. And I've spoken to literally two other people about the game, so you know my thoughts are very representative of the general population.

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AirFresh
11/07/22 7:01:24 PM
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Also Viola is a good character idk why she's getting heat. She's a great mirror of Bayonetta, since Bayonetta exudes confidence, and Viola is clearly very insecure. And of course Bayo being her mother and giving her mother/daughter moments was cute as fuck even if Bayo didn't realize it at first, Just her nature like with Cereza.

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Punished_Blinx
11/08/22 10:43:52 PM
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I finished the game and yeah ending sucks. Not as bad as ME3 though as most of Bayo's story kinda sucks.

AirFresh posted...
Those people are idiots. She's more Bayonetta in 3 than she is in 2. They're just mad she's straight and Luka wins the Bayo Bowl.

I dunno. Her scenes with Luka in 3 are so drastically different. It's weird. In this Luka is the guy with the power dynamic when it was the opposite in 1 and 2.

Also the ending implies that Bayo in both 1 and 2 are alternate versions for some reason? I'm not even entirely sure what the history of Bayo 3 is even supposed to be.

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Ikzai
11/08/22 10:44:54 PM
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Platinum doesn't do storylines. No one comes to Platinum games for a good story. They've never produced one worth a damn. It's just not what their interest in game development is. They want to make the same character action game over and over which is fine they have an audience. Mass Effect is very story dependant. It's a completely different situation.

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Irony
11/08/22 10:48:04 PM
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AirFresh posted...
Those people are idiots. She's more Bayonetta in 3 than she is in 2. They're just mad she's straight and Luka wins the Bayo Bowl.
Considering this is what Kamiya said he wasn't going to do the comparison to ME3 fits.

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Darkninja42
11/08/22 10:55:35 PM
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If anything I've seen more complaints about the gameplay itself. Setpieces that are too long; Jeanne and to a lesser extent, Viola's sections; and using the Kaijus

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Ricemills
11/10/22 4:07:43 AM
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TooSoon posted...
Bayo and Jeanne are dead. New tomboy character is the next "bayonetta". Also MCU multiverse shenanigans.

didn't sound that bad.
plus it will help with the VA issue if they going to make another sequel.

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CyricZ
11/10/22 8:02:14 AM
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So I just heard Pat from Castle Super Beast podcast say this and I think it's worth stealing.

Bayonetta 3 is not Mass Effect 3.

Bayonetta 3 is The Rise of Skywalker.

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Punished_Blinx
11/10/22 5:45:50 PM
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CyricZ posted...
So I just heard Pat from Castle Super Beast podcast say this and I think it's worth stealing.

Bayonetta 3 is not Mass Effect 3.

Bayonetta 3 is The Rise of Skywalker.

Maybe. But Rise of Skywalker doesn't have fun gameplay to fall back on.

Bayonetta 3 doesn't really have much of a story at all. It's just Bayonetta watching alternate versions of herself die so she can grab an object and then a bunch of bullshit happens at the end that you aren't meant to think about. Then the credits acts like what you've seen is really emotional.

It's just overall a bit nonsense lol

Rise of Skywalker was a sequel to a movie that wanted to take things to a new direction and ROS said "nevermind that" and tried to play it as safe as possible to its detriment. As bad as I think Bayo 3's story overall is none of it was really safe.

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BakonBitz
11/12/22 8:42:27 PM
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So there's a reason why there's a weird thing going on with Bayonetta and Luka.

Luka is from a different universe and Bayonetta is little Cereza from 1.

Also because of the multiverse everybody will be coming back, Viola is not gonna be a replacement. She's the Nero of the Bayonetta franchise now.

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