Current Events > What's the best way to play Wolfenstein 3D?

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Presuming DOSBOX isn't the best way

In the third dimension, I reckon.

Use a source port like ECWolf.

SrRd_RacinG posted...

In the third dimension, I reckon.

But what do we do when the Nazis invade the second dimension?

Man this game is such a product of its time <___<

It'd be a lot less frustrating if damage you take was actually logical beyond "closer = more damage"(Shots doing anywhere from 4 to like 50 damage randomly may be 'realistic' but I don't take that that is what they were going for)

I've had these chestgun Nazis take like 6 shots to go down or they go down in 1

GOG maybe

Are enemies supposed to be able to shoot you blindly from around a corner? or is it a glitch with the engine?

Cause I've taken plenty of shots when the enemy isn't even on screen and the angle wouldn't be able to hit me but BAM there goes 57% of my health despite being a fucking football field a goddamned way

wackyteen posted...

Man this game is such a product of its time <___<

It'd be a lot less frustrating if damage you take was actually logical beyond "closer = more damage"(Shots doing anywhere from 4 to like 50 damage randomly may be 'realistic' but I don't take that that is what they were going for)

I've had these chestgun Nazis take like 6 shots to go down or they go down in 1

A game that was like the 2nd or 3rd fps ever made is a product of its time? Noooooo, you don't say?

Also press spacebar on every wall. Secrets everywhere. I still remember most of them. Played it recently after 25 years and it's still fun. But then again I played it so much as a kid I can probably do a run blindfolded.

There's also an interesting version of it on wolfenstein 2 where your the German fighting Russian and american soldiers. They just palette swap and change some audio files around but still neat.

EC Wolf is great.

That game came out SNES believe it or not

IIRC they couldn't use any Nazi emblems, and the dogs were changed to giant rats

Anyone remember Wolfenstein VR?

It was released only in arcades.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/arcade/569208-wolfenstein-vr

Is there something wrong with the version of Steam?

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ECWolf didn't like that I left it idling for like an hour and a half

Tried to leave the level, program is dying

well I killed Hitler.

Episode 3 felt a lot easier than Episode 2 ngl <_<

I just booted up the steam version. It was pretty fine for me, only the main menu was kind of finicky. What exactly is ECWolf?

discodancer77 posted...

What exactly is ECWolf?

ECWolf is an advanced source port for Wolfenstein 3D, Spear of Destiny, and Super 3D Noah's Ark based off of the Wolf4SDL code base. ECWolf pulls a substantial amount of code from ZDoom and aims to provide a wide array of mod editing capabilities without the need to modify the source code. Most importantly you will no longer need to replace entire data sets. With ECWolf you could for example add a weapon without needing to distribute every sprite in the game along with it. Mods will be neatly packaged into a single file just like they are for Doom.
For players, ECWolf provides many useful features such as better control binding, support for wide screen resolutions, and unlimited save slots. ECWolf allows you to keep all of your game data in one directory as one binary plays all supported games. Support for even more Wolfenstein engine games is planned for the future! (I know you're all waiting for Blake Stone support.) In terms of accuracy to vanilla Wolf, it is about the same as the accuracy of ZDoom to vanilla Doom.
To run through some of the highlights:

• One binary plays Wolfenstein 3D, Spear of Destiny, and Super 3D Noah's Ark.
• Runs on all popular operating systems. (That's Windows, Mac OS X, Android, Ubuntu, and other Linux based operating systems.)
• Modern control schemes supported.
• Super 3D Noah's Ark/Rise of the Traid/Mac Wolfenstein style automap.
• Widescreen and tall screen support with aspect ratio correction (Hor+/Vert+).
• Soft-moding (no need to deal with compilers)!
• Unrestricted map size with support for non-square maps.
• Support for high resolution textures and mixed definition.
• Support for additional image formats and archive formats.

https://maniacsvault.net/ecwolf/

wackyteen posted...

well I killed Hitler.

Episode 3 felt a lot easier than Episode 2 ngl <_<

I remember playing this as a kid, Hitler's death animation was the single goriest thing I'd seen in a game up to that point in my life

well boys looks like we playing wolfenstein tonight

Hmm so the Steam/DOSBox version of the game does not let you move laterally/strafe. At least very easily, you need to use WASD while holding Alt. Otherwise it just moves the camera/your direction. Apparently shooters from back in the day did not use the mouse. ECWolf allows you to customize and modernize the controls.

it was literally the first shooter. doom had mouse controls, and mouse controls were perfected with quake. the doom mouse can also be fixed in dos with a simple program that disables all vertical movement also, then it plays normally (you auto-aim vertically anyway).

GUTENTAG!

man that boss behind the door was quite the jump scare!

wolf3d was the first game I ever played. My dad brought home a computer he got and he apparently got the game on release day and was playing the shit out of it. I managed to sneak a turn and I remember thinking it looked super real and scary lol

I remember playing it on the Atari Jaguar

Im having a lot of fun with Wolfenstein through ECWolf, (no mods other than strafing with WASD keys)

is there a similar way I should play DOOM when I get around to it? Other than the regular Steam version?

Also apparently theres a DOOM mod that turns the game into a 3D recreation of the entire Zelda NES game lol thats amazing

discodancer77 posted...

Im having a lot of fun with Wolfenstein through ECWolf, (no mods other than strafing with WASD keys)

is there a similar way I should play DOOM when I get around to it? Other than the regular Steam version?

Also apparently theres a DOOM mod that turns the game into a 3D recreation of the entire Zelda NES game lol thats amazing

If you're looking to just play DOOM/2 then Gzdoom / Zdoom provides a lot of modern comforts, and the ability to enable/disable a lot of things.

There's a lot more DOOM source ports though and they all have their own mildly unique flavors they add to the game.

Ultimately depends on what you want exactly. Just modern mouse controls and a reticle? Zdoom would work fine.

cant get ec wolf to run on windows 8. ive beaten all 60 levels, i wanna play again. guess it's dosbox for me?

i wish zdoom would just run it.

again you dont need anything except a program called "novert" to play doom on dosbox normally:

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/utils/misc/novert

it makes doom run as intended, but the controls are normal. you can't look up and down with mouse, but you never need to do this, and it looks/plays better when you don't.

zdoom is great also.

beat the first 3 episodes and killed Hitler. Seeing as how thats how it was originally intended to end, Im going to end it there and leave the Nocturnal Missions and Spear of Destiny for later. Great game, episode 2 had great level design and environmental storytelling.

asides from Portal, would you believe this is the very first FPS Ive ever played?

u should definitely play doom. it's like 100 times better than wolfenstein. also i still cant get ec wolf to work :/