Current Events > Anti-psychiatric medicine views popping up on my twitterfeed have increased

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VIXVLV
10/09/22 11:37:47 AM
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Over the past couple of months.

Not great.

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VIXVLV
10/09/22 4:22:13 PM
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Bad things are afoot.

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CRON
10/09/22 4:23:02 PM
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Get off Twitter. It's better for your mental health.
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VampireCoyote
10/09/22 4:23:56 PM
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Bad things are awrist.

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Turtlemayor333
10/09/22 4:32:10 PM
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All I follow on Twitter are game publishers and some gimmick accounts like "Shrek History."

But in my feed I still sometimes see dudes I don't even follow saying the Covid vaccine is bad.

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VIXVLV
10/09/22 4:33:50 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
All I follow on Twitter are game publishers and some gimmick accounts like "Shrek History."

But in my feed I still sometimes see dudes I don't even follow saying the Covid vaccine is bad.

They changed the algorithm pretty drastically some months ago, so now I get a bunch of irrelevant shit that's trending outside my network of followers/followees. Which is why I'm seeing this crap.

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VIXVLV
10/09/22 6:55:56 PM
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Unfortunately the anti-psych trend currently takes advantage of progressive values, and frames all psychiatric labels and neural implications as inherently stigmatizing and therefore false. Mental illness is not real, we're all just different individuals.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/09/22 7:00:47 PM
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There's definitely room to challenge how mental health disorders are viewed. liberal ideologies are not equipped to do that though.

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Ruvan22
10/10/22 8:31:08 AM
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VIXVLV posted...
Unfortunately the anti-psych trend currently takes advantage of progressive values, and frames all psychiatric labels and neural implications as inherently stigmatizing and therefore false. Mental illness is not real, we're all just different individuals.

I've sadly seen variations of this - "I'm/they are on the spectrum, it's ableist of you to not let me/them sit right next to you"
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haloiscoolisbak
10/10/22 9:51:03 AM
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It is a tricky subject. Olanzapine suppressed my psychotic thoughts but I gained 20kg(50 pounds) seemingly overnight. The increased appetite side effects are literally so extreme. As is the insane levels of drowsiness, I honestly feel like a zombie on them

I managed to lose 15 of those kgs, but only after stopping the medication and I'm kind of just hoping I never go psychotic again (quitting drugs helped). I'm still supposed to be on them but w/e

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averagejoel
10/10/22 12:23:43 PM
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a significant part of the problem is that mental health is largely conceptualized as an issue at the individual level, when it's actually societal. most mental health problems are rooted in real societal problems that exist outside of the individual

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VIXVLV
10/10/22 1:00:43 PM
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Nah, mental illness is real thing, not just an effect of society.

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averagejoel
10/10/22 3:32:45 PM
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VIXVLV posted...
Nah, mental illness is real thing, not just an effect of society.
not only does this not contradict what I said; those two things aren't even mutually exclusive

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VIXVLV
10/10/22 3:43:01 PM
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There's no real point in trying to discuss this with you. And you know that.

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averagejoel
10/10/22 3:58:44 PM
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VIXVLV posted...
There's no real point in trying to discuss this with you. And you know that.
that's a You problem

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Irony
10/10/22 3:59:50 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Bad things are awrist.
Wouldn't it be ahand?

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VIXVLV
10/10/22 4:05:19 PM
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No, it's not. We've already had lengthy discussions about this, in which you have blocked me at the end of each one. I know your stances, i know that you view autism as natural variation, that society is the issue, and any treatment or development of treatment, or even scientific study of the disorder, is tantamount to eugenics.

You are heavily biased, and have strong personal feelings that drive you to believe what you believe. If you want to talk about science, the psychology and neuroscience of it, happy to do so. But that's not how you engage with this topic.

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Zeeak4444
10/10/22 4:07:36 PM
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VIXVLV posted...
No, it's not. We've already had lengthy discussions about this, in which you have blocked me at the end of each one. I know your stances, i know that you view autism as natural variation, that society is the issue, and any treatment or development of treatment, or even scientific study of the disorder, is tantamount to eugenics.

You are heavily biased, and have strong personal feelings that drive you to believe what you believe. If you want to talk about science, the psychology and neuroscience of it, happy to do so. But that's not how you engage with this topic.

as opposed to what lol

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averagejoel
10/10/22 4:09:17 PM
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VIXVLV posted...
No, it's not. We've already had lengthy discussions about this, in which you have blocked me at the end of each one. I know your stances, i know that you view autism as natural variation, that society is the issue, and any treatment or development of treatment, or even scientific study of the disorder, is tantamount to eugenics.

You are heavily biased, and have strong personal feelings that drive you to believe what you believe. If you want to talk about science, the psychology and neuroscience of it, happy to do so. But that's not how you engage with this topic.
that isn't what I was attempting to talk about here though. that's a very different conversation. you would know that if you listened to the actual words I said instead of making things up.

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VIXVLV
10/10/22 4:10:30 PM
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How is it different at all? It's literally the same conversation, and you literally started it out the same exact way:

averagejoel posted...
a significant part of the problem is that mental health is largely conceptualized as an issue at the individual level, when it's actually societal.


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averagejoel
10/10/22 4:22:06 PM
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VIXVLV posted...
How is it different at all? It's literally the same conversation, and you literally started it out the same exact way:
here's one example of what I was talking about:

around the time the blacklivesmatter protests were going on 2 years ago, there was an article about a little black kid who had basically developed anxiety. he was afraid to go outside because he thought police officers were going to shoot at him. the article attempted to turn it into a feel-good story; where a cop sat on the front step and gave him ice cream or something.

but that kid's anxiety was not caused by a problem with his brain! that anxiety was caused because the kid observed alarming things happening in the world around him.

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VIXVLV
10/10/22 4:23:05 PM
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That kid, however, would not be diagnosed with a clinical anxiety disorder!

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averagejoel
10/10/22 4:26:58 PM
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VIXVLV posted...
That kid, however, would not be diagnosed with a clinical anxiety disorder!
do you think that prolonged exposure (like, say, many years) to similarly alarming things might result in a more consistent sustained effect on mental health, making it more likely to result in a diagnosis?

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Sonic_Cannon
10/10/22 4:29:05 PM
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People posting that stuff have probably never met anyone with schizophrenia.

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VIXVLV
10/10/22 4:29:39 PM
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averagejoel posted...
do you think that prolonged exposure (like, say, many years) to similarly alarming things might result in a more consistent sustained effect on mental health, making it more likely to result in a diagnosis?

I would say if the anxiety generalizes outside the scope of normal behavior (as in, outside expected contexts) is when the diagnosis would be more likely. As it should, as that anxiety at that point will no longer serve a functional purpose, and will likely interfere with everyday life.

Clinicians understand that there are normal responses to abnormal situations, and abnormal responses to normal situations. It's literally in the diagnosis criteria of every mental illness.

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VIXVLV
10/10/22 7:32:22 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
as opposed to what lol

I believe in long-term potentiation but have no feelings towards or about it.

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