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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 1:36:41 PM
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/celebrate-30-years-magic-gathering-30th-anniversary-edition-2022-10-04

Special collector backs and "not legal" but still.

Can get a black lotus or absolute junk.
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Norman_Smiley
10/04/22 1:39:58 PM
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This seems contrary to their stated goals for the last 25 years of wanting to release stuff that gets played and not have outrageously priced crap.

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Alucard188
10/04/22 1:40:44 PM
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US politics has poisoned my head. I thought of Marjorie Taylor Greene (whatever her fucking name is) and Covid 19.

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 1:41:49 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
US politics has poisoned my head. I thought of Marjorie Taylor Greene (whatever her fucking name is) and Covid 19.

Don't lie. Boosters in title.
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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 1:42:28 PM
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Norman_Smiley posted...
This seems contrary to their stated goals for the last 25 years of wanting to release stuff that gets played and not have outrageously priced crap.

Hasbro bought them and wants quick profit.
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Were_Wyrm
10/04/22 1:42:34 PM
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The GOP grift continues

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Norman_Smiley
10/04/22 1:43:53 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Hasbro bought them and wants quick profit.
Forgot about that, but it does explain it.

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Tyranthraxus
10/04/22 1:44:17 PM
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ABU = alpha/beta/unlimited?

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 1:44:30 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
ABU = alpha/beta/unlimited?

Correct
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Blue_Target
10/04/22 1:44:35 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
US politics has poisoned my head. I thought of Marjorie Taylor Greene (whatever her fucking name is) and Covid 19.
I'm sure TC knew what he was doing when making the topic title

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 1:45:37 PM
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Blue_Target posted...
I'm sure TC knew what he was doing when making the topic title

Shut the fuck up
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Tyranthraxus
10/04/22 1:45:39 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Correct
Fuck that noise. I ain't paying money for a fuckin white border or a literal different shape card.

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 1:46:33 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Fuck that noise. I ain't paying money for a fuckin white border or a literal different shape card.

Gold border I think.

Same shape maybe
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MabusIncarnate
10/04/22 1:47:37 PM
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So I was into Magic in the mid 90s, I had a shoebox of the original series and maybe a blue box set and one expansion. Looking at those cards in the link, I definitely had half of those pictured, and i'm really hoping those aren't the valuable ones.

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yunalenne10
10/04/22 1:48:26 PM
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I already have the original Collector Editions of the Power 9, so whatever.

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Fable
10/04/22 1:48:35 PM
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Blue_Target posted...
I'm sure TC knew what he was doing when making the topic title

MTG was the abbreviation for Magic: The Gathering well before Marjorie Taylor Greene was even a thought.

WingsOfGood posted...
Shut the fuck up


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Tyranthraxus
10/04/22 1:48:51 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Gold border I think.

Same shape maybe
Same shape means there's no difference between alpha and beta. And actually if it's gold border then it's not really even unlimited. It's basically those premade decks they sell that place in the semi / finals at tournaments except random shit instead of knowing what you're getting and way overpriced.

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 1:51:19 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
So I was into Magic in the mid 90s, I had a shoebox of the original series and maybe a blue box set and one expansion. Looking at those cards in the link, I definitely had half of those pictured, and i'm really hoping those aren't the valuable ones.


If you had lotus, time twister, time walk, any of the gems you woukd have had thousands and if condition really good close to millions.
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Ajiri
10/04/22 1:51:30 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
So I was into Magic in the mid 90s, I had a shoebox of the original series and maybe a blue box set and one expansion. Looking at those cards in the link, I definitely had half of those pictured, and i'm really hoping those aren't the valuable ones.
your shoebox was likely worth thousands, that's what makes them valuable now though, they've gotten lost through the ages

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FigureOfSpeech
10/04/22 1:52:42 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Don't lie. Boosters in title.

I don't think that user was lying. I thought the same thing. I thought the bent-faced fanatic had been working with a pharma company to develop some alternate vaccine with 4 booster shots that had some sketchy attribute to it that would make it not scary to anti-vaxxers (I thought ABU was some acronym to some medical thing that would have been relevant to that idea)

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BlueTigerLion
10/04/22 1:53:48 PM
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I had no idea MTG was in favor of vaccine boosters.

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 1:54:08 PM
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FigureOfSpeech posted...
I don't think that user was lying. I thought the same thing. I thought the bent-faced fanatic had been working with a pharma company to develop some alternate vaccine with 4 booster shots that had some sketchy attribute to it that would make it not scary to anti-vaxxers (I thought ABU was some acronym to some medical thing that would have been relevant to that idea)


Lmao
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MabusIncarnate
10/04/22 1:55:40 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
If you had lotus, time twister, time walk, any of the gems you woukd have had thousands and if condition really good close to millions.
None of those, I definitely had Llanowar Elves, Hypnotic Specter, Black & White Knights, Healing Salve, Dark Ritual, Giant Growth, the art is very nostalgic and recognizable. I remember having an Armageddon card that had a big boulder with lava pouring out of his mouth, friends wanted that one. I had thousands of cards, it was probably 94-95 when I was into it, and remember buying those current expansion card decks at the mall when they released.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
10/04/22 1:59:03 PM
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1k is beyond abusive just for the CHANCE at power 9, dual lands THAT CANT BE PLAYED beyond casual games. Fuck Hasbro.

Yet...Its probably my only chance at getting dual lands at a sub 200 price.

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 2:00:05 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
None of those, I definitely had Llanowar Elves, Hypnotic Specter, Black & White Knights, Healing Salve, Dark Ritual, Giant Growth, the art is very nostalgic and recognizable. I remember having an Armageddon card that had a big boulder with lava pouring out of his mouth, friends wanted that one. I had thousands of cards, it was probably 94-95 when I was into it, and remember buying those current expansion card decks at the mall when they released.

Depending on edition even some of that has value.

Hypnotic beta like $500
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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 2:01:27 PM
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
1k is beyond abusive just for the CHANCE at power 9, dual lands THAT CANT BE PLAYED beyond casual games. Fuck Hasbro.

Yet...Its probably my only chance at getting dual lands at a sub 200 price.

Until secretversary we need cash now cause Hasbro execs want another yacht!
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MarcoRubio
10/04/22 2:01:33 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/2/AAUqJwAADebW.jpg

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Shotgunnova
10/04/22 2:03:56 PM
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WOTC is garbage.

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MabusIncarnate
10/04/22 2:04:06 PM
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That one I was thinking of was Chaos Orb, not Armageddon.

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SuperShake666
10/04/22 2:05:37 PM
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>not legal set for 999

Fuck right off Hasbro, you pricks.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
10/04/22 2:06:06 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Until secretversary we need cash now cause Hasbro execs want another yacht!


All these last last years MTG has shows explosive growth sales/revenue wise and this recession is threatening to put a stop to that. Latest products like dominaria are not selling as much expected even though theyre quite decent products with powerful cards. But recession coupled with product fatigue is bound to them some damage. I imagine this 1k product is them bringing out the really big guns.

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Ajiri
10/04/22 2:08:30 PM
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I understand the frustration about the contents of the box but if you're a collector or flipper you're buying this box, sealed I think if you kept it for 5 years it's going to be worth $3k

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ellis123
10/04/22 2:09:30 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
None of those, I definitely had Llanowar Elves, Hypnotic Specter, Black & White Knights, Healing Salve, Dark Ritual, Giant Growth, the art is very nostalgic and recognizable. I remember having an Armageddon card that had a big boulder with lava pouring out of his mouth, friends wanted that one. I had thousands of cards, it was probably 94-95 when I was into it, and remember buying those current expansion card decks at the mall when they released.
Those would still be expensive. Literally every card from Alpha/Beta are expensive, and the vast majority of Unlimited is as well. An Alpha Llanawar Elves, for instance, is $255 and a Beta one is $90. That isn't thousands of dollars, but for being a random common that you would have potentially quite a few copies of that is a lot of money. Similarly an Alpha Black Knight, being an uncommon, bumps the price up to $575 (with $150 for Beta). Mind you: Black Knight is utterly useless as a card nowadays so its price is quite literally only tied to being from an older set (you can buy a modern reprint for $.10 if you don't want to try and talk the owner of the store into just giving it to you).

That said, 94-95 would imply that they were the Revised versions of the card (of which the easy way for you to tell would be to simplify it from them having a white border) and that basically nukes the value of anything that isn't actually playable. Elves is $.25, Black Knight is $.50, etc. At the same time It is quite possible that you got plenty of expensive nonsense all the while. Antiquities was a set that came out during that time period and it had multiples of very high profile lower-rarity cards. For instance, Strip Mine is an uncommon that showed up a lot in packs due to having four different arts with its cheapest art version being $80.

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Ajiri
10/04/22 2:10:36 PM
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So what happened to your cards @MabusIncarnate

Maybe you still have them in your attic or something

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AP3Brain
10/04/22 2:10:38 PM
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I just don't see the point if it is "not legal" anyways. Purely for collectors?
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CARRRNE_ASADA
10/04/22 2:14:51 PM
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Wotc whishes more than anything they could reprint Black Lotus and other reserved cards so they could tap into the equity those cards have. They cant reprint them due to a promise they made and lawsuits would not make it worthy. So these NOT LEGAL cards are a sneaky way to circumvent the reserve list and tap slightly into that equity with the promise that youll get a VERY EXPENSIVE card(yet totally not playable in tournaments). Its gambling cause to top it off theyll be inside boosters with a bunch of common cards.

It will probably sell out because of whales, collectors and some people getting a shot of owning an OFFICIAL proxy card they can use for their commander decks.

So theyre thinking "oh a black lotus, moxes are valued at thousands then I bet some people would pay good money for an official proxy card"

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ellis123
10/04/22 2:14:55 PM
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AP3Brain posted...
I just don't see the point if it is "not legal" anyways. Purely for collectors?
They are proxies, so you can use them wherever proxies are allowed. This basically just means kitchen table + some of the vintage tournaments.

And this is just a scummy way to get investors more into MtG, not really for people to play with. Magic has been shown to be a very legitimate game so investors swarm to it like flies and buy up all of the collectable versions of cards to flip them later. This is aimed pretty hard at them as the cards are guaranteed to be extremely expensive later yet isn't something that most people will really care about. It's just a cash grab for Wizards.

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 2:16:26 PM
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Rip to the man losing his chaos orb or that is boulder pouring out lava

https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/9003/magic-unlimited-edition-chaos-orb?Language=English
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FaultyCircuitry
10/04/22 2:17:56 PM
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Abolish the RL

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MJOLNRVII
10/04/22 2:23:08 PM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
Abolish the RL
This is the closest they've gotten to working around the Reserved List in a while. I remember the added rule about them no longer doing gold bordered versions of RL cards, so I'm surprised that this was fine with them.

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Jagr_68
10/04/22 2:24:25 PM
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MarcoRubio posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/2/AAUqJwAADebW.jpg

Morbius Time Go! is what I always refer MTG as tbph

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 2:34:08 PM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
Abolish the RL

why tho
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TMOG
10/04/22 2:35:31 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
US politics has poisoned my head. I thought of Marjorie Taylor Greene (whatever her fucking name is) and Covid 19.
Same.
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Tyranthraxus
10/04/22 2:36:36 PM
#45:


WingsOfGood posted...
Rip to the man losing his chaos orb or that is boulder pouring out lava

https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/9003/magic-unlimited-edition-chaos-orb?Language=English

RIP to me too. How much is this one? That's also something that's gone (originally bought it for $40)

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/6/5/AARLwzAADvqh.jpg


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EmbraceOfDeath
10/04/22 2:37:02 PM
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
All these last last years MTG has shows explosive growth sales/revenue wise and this recession is threatening to put a stop to that. Latest products like dominaria are not selling as much expected even though theyre quite decent products with powerful cards. But recession coupled with product fatigue is bound to them some damage. I imagine this 1k product is them bringing out the really big guns.
MTG products are planned around two years in advance and have to be because of the printing schedule. This isn't in response to the economy.

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WingsOfGood
10/04/22 2:37:48 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
RIP to me too. How much is this one? That's also something that's gone (originally bought it for $40)

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/6/5/AARLwzAADvqh.jpg

$95 at played so not too bad

https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/8986/magic-unlimited-edition-berserk?Language=English

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s0nicfan
10/04/22 2:40:05 PM
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If they're not "legal" then save your money and just get a proxy of the rare card for like $2

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TerraSeeker
10/04/22 2:42:44 PM
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May as well just get a proxy

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MabusIncarnate
10/04/22 2:47:44 PM
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I don't remember having any white border cards, I sort of remember when the game came out and I bought a large starter box, but I wanna say they were all dark bordered.

But basically I joined the Army and my parents gave my cards away to the comic book store, along with about 1800 comic books. I don't want to talk about that any further lol.

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