Current Events > India furious at Biden for selling even more weapons to Pakistan.

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US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has defended US military sales to Pakistan amid criticism from India, which says it is the target of a $450m F-16 fighter jet deal between Washington and Islamabad.

During a news conference in the United States capital on Tuesday, Blinken said that the military package approved earlier this month was for maintenance of Pakistans existing fleet.

These are not new planes, new systems, new weapons. Its sustaining what they have, said Blinken, who spoke alongside Indias External Affairs Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar.

Pakistans programme bolsters its capability to deal with terrorist threats emanating from Pakistan or from the region. Its in no ones interests that those threats be able to go forward with impunity, he said.

Blinken met with Jaishankar a day after he held separate talks with his counterpart from Pakistan, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari.

In our discussions we talked about the importance of managing a responsible relationship with India, Blinken said after that meeting on Monday, without elaborating.
The US has maintained strong ties to both India and Pakistan for decades, despite various points of tension between the nations.

US State Department spokesman Ned Price said earlier this week that the relationship we have with India stands on its own; the relationship we have with Pakistan stands on its own.
While Jaishankar did not criticise Blinken publicly over the F-16 deal, the Indian foreign minister said during an event on Sunday that the US position was not fooling anybody.

For someone to say, Im doing this because its for counter-terrorism, when youre talking of an aircraft like the capability of the F-16, everybody knows where they are deployed, he said, referring to the fleets positioning against India.

Very honestly, its a relationship that has neither ended up serving Pakistan well nor serving American interests well, he added.

Pakistans military relies heavily on the US, but the relationship has strained in recent years, particularly during the war in Afghanistan.

For its part, India historically has bought military equipment from Moscow and has pressed the US to waive sanctions required under a 2017 law for any nation that buys significant military hardware from Russia.

Jaishankar said on Tuesday that India also has purchased arms from countries such as the US, France and Israel, while noting that India had the right to exercise a choice which we believe is in our national interest and was free to reject changes due to geopolitical tensions.

Over the last 30 years, the US has made strengthening its relationship with India a high priority as it seeks allies in the region to help counter the growing strength of China.
The US has stayed largely quiet on Indias continued relationship with Russia following the invasion of Ukraine, and was pleased when Indias Prime Minister Narendra Modi told Russian President Vladimir Putin that it was not a time for war.

US President Joe Biden held talks with Modi in April as Washington sought more help to apply economic pressure on Moscow over the war.

Jaishankar has suggested that India is working behind the scenes and that it weighed in with Russia during negotiations to open grain shipments from the Black Sea, part of what Jaishankar called the countrys widening international footprint.

There are many more regions where we will be intersecting with American interests. It is to our mutual benefit that this be a complementary process, Jaishankar said.

Meanwhile, Blinken said during the news conference that India and the US should lean into core values including respect for universal human rights, like freedom of religion and belief and freedom of expression, which makes our democracies stronger.

In recent years, India has been accused of a range of human rights abuses, including curbs to religious freedoms, particularly against Muslims.

Jaishankar responded indirectly to Blinkens comments on Tuesday that both India and the US were committed to democracy but from their history, tradition and societal context.
India does not believe that the efficacy or indeed the quality of democracy should be decided by vote banks, he said.

Full Article: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/27/us-defends-arms-sales-to-pakistan-amid-criticism-from-india

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Ukraine begs for jets all year

US: "Here's 50 billion dollars...but no jets"

Pakistan: "Can I haz jets?"

US: "SURE!" :D

India and Ukraine: "WTF DUDE!?"

lol.
then they should buy weapons from USA too instead from russia.

So India can buy weaponry from Russia all they like and no should even bat an eye but Pakistan buys weaponry from the US and India gets furious, lol

Aitz posted...

So India can buy weaponry from Russia all they like and no should even bat an eye but Pakistan buys weaponry from the US and India gets furious, lol

welcome to politics

Look at what happens when "Stop running. Parry of law and order" Americans are wanted by the police

or what happens when pro lifers get their mistresses pregnant

Pakistan buys jets while millions are suffering from the floods

teep_ posted...

Pakistan buys jets while millions are suffering from the floods

oh yes because as you well know being at yur most vulnerable means you need even less defence.

Kimbos_Egg posted...

oh yes because as you well know being at yur most vulnerable means you need even less defence.

Also not a defense but America has been wasting money on the military, 1% and indulgent vanity projects while half the country suffers

teep_ posted...

Pakistan buys jets while millions are suffering from the floods

One hand of the government rarely knows what the other hand is doing, let alone what it needs.

This was likely a deal agreed to (in principle at least) months before the floods

Aitz posted...

So India can buy weaponry from Russia all they like and no should even bat an eye but Pakistan buys weaponry from the US and India gets furious, lol

Exactly. Fuck em.

All the US allies have joined in on Russian sanctions right now except India. India barely used to import Russian oil now it imports a huge portion of if.

Dan_Haren- posted...

Exactly. Fuck em.

All the US allies have joined in on Russian sanctions right now except India. India barely used to import Russian oil now it imports a huge portion of if.

Probably because Russia has a fuck ton and is looking to sell it (cheaply) to whoever will buy.

It's morally questionable, but financially smart for India

wackyteen posted...

It's morally questionable

Thats exactly the point. Europe is suffering right now in large part due to the sactions they are also taking part in. Russia is suffering because of it. India is letting russia release some of that steam. Its counterproductive to what the US and its allies are doing and its prolonging the conflict. Modi spoke out against Putin but its all bullshit cuz where it matters, he's helping them. Modi is also a known piece of shit.

Dan_Haren- posted...

Thats exactly the point. Europe is suffering right now in large part due to the sactions they are also taking part in. Russia is suffering because of it. India is letting russia release some of that steam. Its counterproductive to what the US and its allies are doing and its prolonging the conflict. Modi spoke out against Putin but its all bullshit cuz where it matters, he's helping them. Modi is also a known piece of shit.

I'd argue that it might be better to let Russia have a small release valve. If the entire world had backed Russia into an inescapable corner, they might have already done something drastic.

It sucks, don't get me wrong, to let a bully have escapes/releases but when they can tip the scales over into lava and potentially be (in)directly responsible for the deaths of millions, if not billions, then you gotta play smart.

They will get to that point sooner or later, you are delaying the inevitable. And in delaying it you are prolonging suffering for many. So them buying russian oil isn't isolated to just them and russia, it indirectly hurts us and most of europe. ...not to mention all the ukranians/russians who have to die in the process.

wackyteen posted...

the entire world had backed Russia into an inescapable corner, they might have already done something drastic.

Yeah like threaten to nuke everyone and have a draft

oh wait

*biden puts sanctions on Russia oil*

india: hi Russia!! Dont worry about it! We will buy your oil!!! Fuck the west, right comrade? lol USA u dont tell us what to do!

biden: *sells weapons to Pakistan*

india: how could you!? We told you not to!

the hypocrisy is off the charts

Wtf are we dealing with Pakistan for?

wackyteen posted...

Probably because Russia has a fuck ton and is looking to sell it (cheaply) to whoever will buy.

It's morally questionable, but financially smart for India

so how can they get mad if the US does something financially smart too?

AtelierGaming86 posted...

Wtf are we dealing with Pakistan for?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8CTeLy3Ujxc

Scohen posted...

so how can they get mad if the US does something financially smart too?

rules for thee

Dan_Haren- posted...

They will get to that point sooner or later, you are delaying the inevitable. And in delaying it you are prolonging suffering for many. So them buying russian oil isn't isolated to just them and russia, it indirectly hurts us and most of europe. ...not to mention all the ukranians/russians who have to die in the process.

The idea would be to hope they lose interest if the prolonged cost becomes too great.

If a man worth $1M lost $1M all at once, he may make a rash, drastic decision like [redacted].

If a man worth $1M lost $1M over the course of a year, he can rationalize away from drastic decisions

wackyteen posted...

The idea would be to hope they lose interest if the prolonged cost becomes too great.

If a man worth $1M lost $1M all at once, he may make a rash, drastic decision like [redacted].

If a man worth $1M lost $1M over the course of a year, he can rationalize away from drastic decisions

And that's incorrect in this case. India buying Russia's oil is bad for every other country in the world, cut and dry, 100%.

wackyteen posted...

The idea would be to hope they lose interest if the prolonged cost becomes too great.

If a man worth $1M lost $1M all at once, he may make a rash, drastic decision like [redacted].

If a man worth $1M lost $1M over the course of a year, he can rationalize away from drastic decisions

Bruh....