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TheLiarParadox 09/12/22 12:30:23 PM #103: |
Patchwork posted... If you cant maintain a friendship despite differing political views, then there is something wrong with you.Can you do a podcast of you and your communist friends discussing the abolition of the police force? --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lennethsoki 09/12/22 12:37:07 PM #104: |
TheLiarParadox posted... Can you do a podcast of you and your communist friends discussing the abolition of the police force? I mean he's not wrong. That's how you get tested, learn new stuff, and come out with an even stronger bond than before. It's why best friends argue: trust and they know each other can take it. Basically the opposite of CE. --- <3 <3 I love life <3 <3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meestermj 09/12/22 12:40:05 PM #105: |
It depends on how conservative they are I guess. Pro-life? You shouldn't associate with people like that. Homophobic? Trash, remove them from your life. Anti trans? Why do you like these people? Misogynistic? Fucking gross. Other areas of conservstivism are less reprehensible, and whatever. Being anti-human rights isn't acceptable. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 09/12/22 12:49:13 PM #106: |
lennethsoki posted... Basically the opposite of CE. Ayyyyy --- Fifty years from now when you're looking back on your life, don't you want to say you had the guts to get in the car? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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roguecanon 09/12/22 12:59:37 PM #107: |
The conservative perspective from someone who's been a Republican and a Democrat and not a mod: -The right thinks kids should be allowed to figure out whether their gay or straight by themselves, like they did before, with no assistance from the teacher. Also, I think they're just tired of the nanny state. I don't think we can back to latchkey kids but, if nothing else, having no adult supervision for a few hours after school did give us the opportunity to think for ourselves. -Yes, the right does use the term gender dysphoria a lot, but they also think that if a person is not considered mature enough to drive or vote or drink, that person should not be transitioning. And they don't think transwomen should be competing in sports with biological women. The transwomen have too much of an advantage. Otherwise, they can be them. -The right thinks of the fetus as a human being and consider it a sin to have an abortion. What's this about eugenics? -Part of the right thinks the Ukraine shouldn't be helped because the government is corrupt and the country itself isn't a part of NATO, and if it became part of NATO, the Russians would think of it the same way that the US thought of Cuba back in the early 1960s. Also, no one was expecting the Russian military to be so inept, but they still have nukes, and no one wants a nuclear war to start simply because Russia invaded the Ukraine. -No one thinks of Trump as a saint, especially with those mean tweets, but the right does think he made the country more prosperous, self-sufficient, and less susceptible to foreign threats. Oh, and Russia didn't invade the Ukraine during Trump's presidency. Russia invaded during Obama's and Biden's presidency. As for Hunter's laptop, censoring reports about it simply because someone deemed those reports misinformation or disinformation leads to public distrust. Don't know much about Hillary's e-mails. Did anybody find them yet? -The right has issues with Critical Race Theory because they think it tells certain people that they should not only feel guilt for the sins of their ancestors, but that they should also feel responsible for the current state of race relations. And if you go back far enough, just about every race has been enslaved at one point or another. -Maybe some on the right don't believe in climate change, but climate change is always occurring. It occurred before humans, and it'll happen after we're gone. In fact, according to scientists, the Sahara should be lush and green again in about 10,000 years. We shouldn't get rid of gas before we can find another viable alternative though. -Trump never said he would make the vaccines mandatory when he was in office. He said the opposite actually. So why would the right disagree with him? And yes, the right is pro-choice when it comes to the vaccines, and for some, the cure has become worse than the disease. Also, you may want to check with the life insurance companies about a sharp increase in deaths during 2021 from non-covid related illnesses. Also, why did we get that 2021 stimulus check? -Who's going to foot the bill for the higher pay. No one's going to eat out if the food's too expensive. And what's the point of being stressed out by your high skill job if you can still live comfortably as a low skill worker. -Didn't Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton call Trump an illegitimate president because she lost the 2016 election. Hardly anyone in power raised a fuss about it then, but I guess anyone who refers to Biden as an illegitimate president now is considered a threat to democracy. --- word...words....more words... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Ephraim 09/12/22 1:19:24 PM #108: |
The only people that are insufferable to be around are MAGAs and far left loonies. They're consumed by identity politics so much they let those in power slowly make their country unaffordable to live and prosper. Everything is smokescreens and mirrors. Social media is a mistake. --- SNARGLEBLAGH ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombieGoats 09/12/22 1:23:18 PM #109: |
Ratchetrockon posted... It is evil to have conservative friends and parents and not do something about it. I'm not cutting my parents out of my life. I can't change their minds about being conservative. They are conservative because they're politically dumb, not because they are bad people. So please don't call people like me evil who unfortunately have to deal with this shit. --- I don't use Excel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 09/12/22 2:45:10 PM #110: |
roguecanon posted... The conservative perspective from someone who's been a Republican and a Democrat and not a mod: You could have just summed all that up in saying that the right believes lunacy and outright lies. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheLiarParadox 09/12/22 4:22:17 PM #112: |
lennethsoki posted... I mean he's not wrong.This is also how people realize they're no longer compatible. Not every relationship is a lifelong one and there's nothing wrong at all with ending things because of "differing political views," especially when such a vague phrase can encompass serious issues that understandably cause a wedge. People change and grow, especially in long-term friendships and the idea that someone should be willing to maintain friendships despite that or there is something wrong with them is silly. Personally speaking, it was doing exactly what y'all are preaching that led me to realizing a lot of my friendships were functionally over. I got outside of the bubble we were in, broadened my horizons, gained a whole new perspective on virtually everything in life and realized I had no place among them anymore. I would be doing all of us a disservice by pretending things were the way they used to be or otherwise forcing the relationship, especially myself if I were to willingly associate with the company they insist on keeping these days. I've simply seen enough to know I don't really stand to gain anything positive from choosing to have conservatives as friends. They're not some exotic specimen I don't know or understand. I was raised in a very right-wing environment and was a conservative for the first quarter or so of my politically conscious life. I live in Texas, so I regularly interact with right-wingers of all flavors and have to go way out of my way to fraternize with someone whose idea of leftism goes beyond the Beto sign in the front yard. Touching on something another person said, I would love to be in an actual leftist circle jerk or echo-chamber but that's actually quite difficult, not just because of my geographical constraints but because the leftist stereotype about infighting has quite a bit of truth to it <_< Anyway, my comment to him was more about the claim that he has friends all across the political spectrum, what with him being in a right-wing profession (both in who they tend to support politically and who they serve) in a country that has a very abbreviated perception of the political scale. I'd be very interested to know what he considers his furthest left comrade and his rightmost boy/i, and how they all get along. I can't shake the suspicion that it's not as diverse as he thinks. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 09/12/22 4:30:16 PM #113: |
Pizza posted... Maybe. But does being a Republican automatically make you a terrible person?Yes. If you are currently a republican you are actively supporting the party pushing hard for fascism in the laws they are introducing and the rhetoric they are pushing. If you are currently a republican you are (at the very least) tolerant of their open bigotry of trans and gay people, and (at worst) a vehement supporter of it. If you are currently a republican you are most likely still supportive of Donald "literally tried/still trying to undermine democracy" Trump, which means any talk of your "patriotism" and love for America and it's people is complete and utter horseshit. --- Twice impeached, one-term President Donald J. Trump: Officially the worst president in American history after his seditious, traitorous acts on Jan 6, 2021. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 09/12/22 4:31:46 PM #114: |
roguecanon posted... -Didn't Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton call Trump an illegitimate president because she lost the 2016 election. Hardly anyone in power raised a fuss about it then, but I guess anyone who refers to Biden as an illegitimate president now is considered a threat to democracy. I remember Hillary completely disappearing after she lost and SNL making skits about her hiding out of the spotlight. That's hardly comparable to what Trump does. It's the exact opposite. There also wasn't any Jan. 6th event or anything of any degree like that to amplify the tensions and give reason to have to push back to protect the country from it's own people --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 09/12/22 8:07:23 PM #115: |
TheLiarParadox posted... Can you do a podcast of you and your communist friends discussing the abolition of the police force? I wouldnt call my leftmost friend communist, but I also dont find most people who call themselves communist to be very serious people. My most left-leaning friend has been a friend of mine since childhood. Grew up in the same shitty neighborhood, had similar traumas as kids, etc. He went hardcore into the party scene when we were in our late teens, early 20s and experimented with a plethora of drugs in college. We stayed in contact, went to parties together, crashed at each others apartments. My family was ruined by heroin, so he was respectful enough to keep his use away from me and though I tried to steer him from what he was doing, he found his own way. He works in NYC at a marketing firm now, is very anti police, supports ending the drug war and legalizing all currently-controlled substances, and was a rabid supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement and all it encompassed. Plus, hes anti-gun. Which I am very much.. not. Weve had those conversations a million times over, and will continue to do so; he doesnt hate me because of what I do, and I dont hate him because he wants to abolish my profession. Hes my boy. I love him. I think hes naive, and he thinks Ive been hoodwinked by the state into feeding into the mass incarceration of minorities. Were as far apart politically as possible. He was just at my house warming party this year, surrounded by cops and cop wives, and he and I ran the table in beer pong. His experiences shaped his reality in a different way than mine. Doesnt mean I care about him any less, or that Ill avoid him or not invite him places or stop associating with him. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 09/12/22 9:17:19 PM #116: |
roguecanon posted... The conservative perspective from someone who's been a Republican and a Democrat and not a mod: none of this makes conservatives look better if thats what youre going for. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 09/12/22 9:32:54 PM #117: |
roguecanon posted... The conservative perspective from someone who's been a Republican and a Democrat and not a mod: Idk why but it tickled me that you had to specify not a mod --- Fifty years from now when you're looking back on your life, don't you want to say you had the guts to get in the car? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanadianMafK 09/12/22 9:34:29 PM #118: |
Damn_Underscore posted... why are you asking here, no one here has any friends ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheLiarParadox 09/14/22 9:58:15 PM #119: |
Patchwork posted... Were as far apart politically as possible.Not really. I don't want to assume too much about his other views but from what you've said about him and his reasons for opposing the police (not that they're wrong, just limited), you're both still firmly entrenched in liberalism, although at different points of it. You more than likely have more agreements about bigger issues than you realize and that's why you're able to put aside the relatively small differences, the importance of which has been exaggerated. And that's not to say that those aren't striking disagreements, especially in today's political climate. It's cool that y'all can get along but it's not like you're actually being challenged on any fundamental level by anyone whose worldview is all that distinct from your own. The only way that's the case is if you're further right than you let on. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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