Current Events > The Salman Rushdie thing is so sad and so stupid

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DarkRoast
08/12/22 7:25:18 PM
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TLDR - the highest-level Imam was given false information about one of his books, and issued a fatwa (basically a holy edict) for Rushdie to be killed. By the time other officials realized that the fatwa was based on false information, the imam had died and the only way a fatwa can be rescinded is if either the issuer or a higher-level imam rescinds it. Since the issuer was dead and there's no higher imam position, it will permanently remain in effect.


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Crimsoness
08/12/22 7:26:16 PM
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Yeah, religion is stupid

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Zikten
08/12/22 7:26:30 PM
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Religion is pretty dumb sometimes
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g0ldie
08/12/22 7:27:47 PM
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it's messed up that someone can issue a warrant for someone's death like that, religious or not.

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womensbuttocks
08/12/22 7:29:34 PM
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It's sad that people are brainwashed into believing it's their duty to carry these things out, even sadder that it's being celebrated by millions of people right now.

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Questionmarktarius
08/12/22 7:30:06 PM
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I might buy several more copies of that book, just because.
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DarkRoast
08/12/22 7:31:15 PM
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womensbuttocks posted...
It's sad that people are brainwashed into believing it's their duty to carry these things out, even sadder that it's being celebrated by millions of people right now.

In all fairness, the vast majority of people and officials basically treated it like it didn't exist. But as long as a fatwa is in effect, a bounty is also in effect. It's stupid and ridiculous.

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Robot2600
08/12/22 7:32:27 PM
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g0ldie posted...
it's messed up that someone can issue a warrant for someone's death like that, religious or not.

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DarkRoast
08/12/22 7:36:36 PM
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It was over a book called "The Satanic Verses" and the imam was told that it was basically a bunch of satanic prayers and whatnot that were theorized to have been said by Mohammad to three pagan gods. But in reality it was mostly just a book about self-discovery.

Iran formally declared the Fatwa moot in 1998, however it technically could not be rescinded (neither could the bounty).


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Questionmarktarius
08/12/22 7:37:32 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
(neither could the bounty).
Good luck collecting that from Khomeini.
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DarkRoast
08/12/22 7:38:44 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Good luck collecting that from Khomeini.

Whether it would actually be given out is obviously up for discussion. But legally speaking they'd basically have no choice.
To Iran's credit, the government itself has tried to find ways to ignore the fatwa but never officially declare it rescinded.

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The_Creep_2020
08/12/22 7:43:59 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
It was over a book called "The Satanic Verses" and the imam was told that it was basically a bunch of satanic prayers and whatnot that were theorized to have been said by Mohammad to three pagan gods. But in reality it was mostly just a book about self-discovery.

Iran formally declared the Fatwa moot in 1998, however it technically could not be rescinded (neither could the bounty).
Didnt they since reaffirm that it was still in place, though?

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Questionmarktarius
08/12/22 7:45:31 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
To Iran's credit, the government itself has tried to find ways to ignore the fatwa but never officially declare it rescinded.
Iran seems like a country that wants to get its shit together, but just can't because of the, uh, fuddy-duddies.

The_Creep_2020 posted...
Didnt they since reaffirm that it was still in place, though?
The "new guy" basically said he technically can't rescind it, because reasons.
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ForsakenHermit
08/12/22 7:54:22 PM
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I picked up a copy of The Moor's Last Sigh as a token of solidarity towards Rushdie today.

Really hoping he makes it. He still has so much to offer the world.

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Questionmarktarius
08/12/22 7:55:16 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
I picked up a copy of The Moor's Last Sigh as a token of solidarity towards Rushdie today.
I finally got around to picking up Satanic Verses, before the scalper-vultures swoop in if he dies today.
I'm a sucker for "forbidden knowledge", to the point that I have some textbook Israel demanded be recalled and destroyed.
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s0nicfan
08/12/22 7:55:50 PM
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If that was the end of the story it would simply be tragic. Unfortunately, you also should probably point out that state-sponsored religious institutions in Iran have continued to maintain the fatwa and have in fact increased the bounty over the years.

Edit:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62528689
The bounty over Mr Rushdie's head remains active, and although Iran's government has distanced itself from Khomeini's decree, a quasi-official Iranian religious foundation added a further $500,000 to the reward in 2012.

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The_Creep_2020
08/12/22 8:17:05 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
If that was the end of the story it would simply be tragic. Unfortunately, you also should probably point out that state-sponsored religious institutions in Iran have continued to maintain the fatwa and have in fact increased the bounty over the years.

Edit:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62528689
Yeah I thought it was something like that

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IMNOTRAGED
08/12/22 8:18:48 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Yeah, religion is stupid


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AvlButtslam
08/12/22 8:25:08 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I'm a sucker for "forbidden knowledge", to the point that I have some textbook Israel demanded be recalled and destroyed.
Got any books bound in human skin?

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Questionmarktarius
08/12/22 8:29:50 PM
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AvlButtslam posted...
Got any books bound in human skin?

There's this weird one that was a dollar at a garage sale that could be. Never bothered to read it.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/3/AAEhCpAADjrn.jpg

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AvlButtslam
08/12/22 8:32:44 PM
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Questionmarktarius
08/12/22 8:34:25 PM
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AvlButtslam posted...
Nah. It's stupid overpriced at etsy, but the joke was too hard to pass up.
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PoundGarden
08/12/22 8:40:33 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
I picked up a copy of The Moor's Last Sigh as a token of solidarity towards Rushdie today.

Really hoping he makes it. He still has so much to offer the world.

Sorry, hate to be that guy, but it was actually "The Moops Last Sigh"

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Ivynn
08/14/22 6:52:31 AM
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Crimsoness posted...
Yeah, religion is stupid


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King_Rial
08/14/22 7:01:22 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Sorry, hate to be that guy, but it was actually "The Moops Last Sigh"
"It's Moors, it's a misprint!"

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Mew
08/14/22 7:28:05 AM
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Imagine getting brainwashed by religion

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