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AceMos
08/10/22 7:15:00 PM
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reminder a hyperloop is impossible

ppl tried to explian this to you all

and his cult ignored the facts

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mustachedmystic
08/10/22 7:15:55 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Is it Musk's fault that people are so stupid they believed a 380 mile vacuum tube would actually work for transportation?
You can say that about any con man. Is it the shady contractors fault that an idiot hired a guy in a rusted Ranger to renovate their kitchen, and payed him in full without signing any contracts and before any work was done? Yea, it is.

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Questionmarktarius
08/10/22 7:23:03 PM
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What happened to the one where you park your car in a car, and then continue driving a few hundred miles away?
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mustachedmystic
08/10/22 7:25:19 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
What happened to the one where you park your car in a car, and then continue driving a few hundred miles away?
That sounds like the hyper loop.

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Questionmarktarius
08/10/22 7:28:07 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
That sounds like the hyper loop.
Unless the "station" is near the burbs, it's pretty useless.

Imagine if a whole-ass tractor-trailer could fit on it, tho.
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MedeaLysistrata
08/10/22 7:29:20 PM
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Let me break down just how little sense it makes

7th post is a capitalist shill because of ads

One hyperloop topic was left on a 7

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TendoDRM
08/10/22 7:29:46 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
he sells cars. if ppl have good public transit they will want more invested in it.

I meant on the personal level the article mentions. The business reasons are obvious.

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Northlane
08/10/22 7:30:03 PM
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Thunderf00t gonna go in

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Zeeak4444
08/10/22 7:33:28 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
You can say that about any con man. Is it the shady contractors fault that an idiot hired a guy in a rusted Ranger to renovate their kitchen, and payed him in full without signing any contracts and before any work was done? Yea, it is.

you're responding to someone who consistently falls for con men. And the ones he doesnt fall for he outright tends to support.

Doubtful youll change his mind regardless of how sound the logic is.

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Finis-XII
08/10/22 7:35:01 PM
#62:


MrAndersonWb posted...
why do weird nerds aways defend musk?


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Finis-XII
08/10/22 7:37:24 PM
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What_ posted...
Kick him out of America
Let's deport his dumb ass to Antarctica.

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mustachedmystic
08/10/22 8:07:33 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Unless the "station" is near the burbs, it's pretty useless.

Imagine if a whole-ass tractor-trailer could fit on it, tho.
I wasnt defending it, just pointing out that it is what you were describing in the post I quoted.

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Questionmarktarius
08/10/22 8:08:54 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
I wasnt defending it, just pointing out that it is what you were describing in the post I quoted.
I thought hyperloop was some sort of vacuum train.
I dunno.

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mustachedmystic
08/10/22 8:18:16 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I thought hyperloop was some sort of vacuum train.
I dunno.
Iirc, the hyper loop is basically a vacuum tube that capsules travel through at incredible speeds thanks to the lack of air resistance. Among the many problems with the idea is that at the speeds Musk talked about when he first unveiled the concept is that the tube would have to be perfectly straight because the g forces would be so great that even the slightest curve would prove to be deadly.

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Robot2600
08/10/22 8:31:33 PM
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hyperloop is dum.

any small crack in the system and it's gg

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mustachedmystic
08/10/22 8:39:19 PM
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To be fair, the hyper loop concept would work great to transport large quantities of non living cargo at great speeds.

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Stagmar
08/10/22 9:33:59 PM
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Meanwhile, the government here is planning to build a hyperloop between two major cities.

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ellis123
08/10/22 10:17:30 PM
#70:


mustachedmystic posted...
To be fair, the hyper loop concept would work great to transport large quantities of non living cargo at great speeds.
Mathematically speaking, it wouldn't. Trains and boats are so much more efficient on all fronts that none of the garbage "future tech" have any barring on them at all. From a civil engineer perspective you are looking at price, stability, throughput, and implementation. The hyper loop concept is fine-ish on the first (not as good as trains but the initial difference isn't that big of a deal) but terrible on all three of the others. The concept mostly exists because people pine for a "super future" like the Jetsons without actually having the slightest understanding of what actual future technology would even work like. Just that it's in chrome and lacks wheels.

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mustachedmystic
08/10/22 10:24:40 PM
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Yeah, I should have said might, as might be efficient if and when future technologies make tunneling much cheaper than it is today.

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ellis123
08/10/22 10:28:34 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Yeah, I should have said might, as might be efficient if and when future technologies make tunneling much cheaper than it is today.
Frankly, the tunnels are the least of the problems. The infrastructure to run the whole thing is. Well, minus the absolutely pathetic (and I'm talking orders of magnitude here) throughput. It's to the point that even if implementation was free it would still cost more in a year than trains would to do the same thing.

Hyperloops, under all current proposed conditions, are worse period.

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AceMos
08/11/22 12:32:57 AM
#73:


Robot2600 posted...
hyperloop is dum.
its also impossible

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/11/22 12:48:01 AM
#74:


wiiking96 posted...
I'm fairly certain that more people thought it was stupid than thought it was a good idea.

Unfortunately there are to many Musk Devotees who continue propagandizing all the dumb ideas he arse pulls.

Too many College competitions and people wasting $$$ on his dumb Hyper-Loop idea.

It's like the dumb "Solar Roadways" idea that wastes more money because dumb arses in government get bamboozled because they're Technologically & Scientifically illiterate.

https://fee.org/articles/solar-roads-another-government-funded-energy-failure/

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/solar-roadways-are-expensive-and-inefficient

https://stopthesethings.com/2021/10/04/under-my-wheels-why-solar-roadways-turned-out-to-be-an-epic-engineering-fail/

https://intellectualtakeout.org/2019/08/solar-roads-another-government-funded-energy-failure/

https://www.treehugger.com/solar-roadways-dont-believe-the-hype-on-this-boondoggle-of-a-project-4867442

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/11/22 12:49:38 AM
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AceMos posted...
reminder a hyperloop is impossible

ppl tried to explian this to you all

and his cult ignored the facts

They didn't just "ignore the facts", they double downed and kept on propagandizing his crap idea.

The amount of college man hrs, $$$, organizational effort went to "Trying to implement" his dumb ideas?

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Kami_no_Kami
08/11/22 12:50:07 AM
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Can we eat him yet?
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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/11/22 12:54:15 AM
#77:


ellis123 posted...
Frankly, the tunnels are the least of the problems. The infrastructure to run the whole thing is. Well, minus the absolutely pathetic (and I'm talking orders of magnitude here) throughput. It's to the point that even if implementation was free it would still cost more in a year than trains would to do the same thing.

Hyperloops, under all current proposed conditions, are worse period.

Don't forget that explosive decompression of the tube would send a shockwave down the line and wreck anything in it, living or inanimate cargo.

There's a reason NASA uses THICC Steel + Concrete to create 'Artificial Vacuums' here on earth.

The material that these nit-wits who propose Hyperloop to be made out of is far from practical or long lasting.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/11/22 12:54:43 AM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
Can we eat him yet?

We're not done roasting Elon, much less seasoning, marinating, or BBQing him yet.

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LightningAce11
08/11/22 12:57:52 AM
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Elon Musk -weird nerds- Valid Criticism

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nfearurspecimn
08/11/22 1:04:09 AM
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I was set to aim my lasers at Musk but metallica said it might not actually be his doing and Musk is full of hot air that he should become a hot air balloon salesman on the side.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/11/22 3:38:53 AM
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The latest HyperLoop scam is linked to the stupid NEOM city that's built in a very long & large 'Line' across Saudi Arabia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB_X5ZUcZlE

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scar_the_1
08/11/22 3:49:40 AM
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Love seeing the weird defenses and deflections people make up for Musk. Here we have Musk himself admitting that the whole thing was a ploy to divert legislative pressure on high speed rails. And still some schmuck ITT is like trying to cast doubt on it? Lmao

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/11/22 4:05:55 AM
#83:


scar_the_1 posted...
Love seeing the weird defenses and deflections people make up for Musk. Here we have Musk himself admitting that the whole thing was a ploy to divert legislative pressure on high speed rails. And still some schmuck ITT is like trying to cast doubt on it? Lmao

It's like they can't admit that they were conned by a con-man who outted himself publically.

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CADE_FOSTER
08/11/22 12:56:05 PM
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musk is a terrible human his father is aswell
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AceMos
08/11/22 3:42:54 PM
#85:


Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...
The latest HyperLoop scam is linked to the stupid NEOM city that's built in a very long & large 'Line' across Saudi Arabia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB_X5ZUcZlE
why are so many ppl falling for the hyperloop scam

stupid millionairs ok fine wtv

but a fucking nation now

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Stagmar
08/11/22 5:09:47 PM
#86:


AceMos posted...
why are so many ppl falling for the hyperloop scam

stupid millionairs ok fine wtv

but a fucking nation now
On a smaller scale, the Alberta government has given Transloop $550 million to build one.

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Questionmarktarius
08/11/22 5:16:07 PM
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A vacuum train between Edmonton and Calgary would be pretty much just be 85% hockey fans.
Possibly also hockey teams.
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scar_the_1
08/11/22 5:28:56 PM
#88:


Questionmarktarius posted...
A vacuum train between Edmonton and Calgary would be pretty much just be 85% hockey fans.
Possibly also hockey teams.
So you're saying it would be 85% Canadians

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Questionmarktarius
08/11/22 5:33:07 PM
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scar_the_1 posted...
So you're saying it would be 85% Canadians
185% Canadians
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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/11/22 7:20:22 PM
#90:


AceMos posted...
but a fucking nation now
Not just any nation, the leader of the Saudi Arabia; a very "Authoritarian Nation" who killed reporters who criticized him.

He's literally going to bankrupt Saudi Arabia and misuse the Oil $$$ for this dumb plan.

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