Current Events > China butt mad, shoot missiles at Taiwan, deploy 100+ planes, 10 warships

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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/suspected-drones-over-taiwan-cyber-attacks-after-pelosi-visit-2022-08-04/

TAIPEI, Aug 4 (Reuters) - China deployed scores of planes and fired live missiles near Taiwan on Thursday in its biggest-ever drills in the Taiwan Strait, a day after U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi made a solidarity trip to the self-ruled island.
China's military confirmed multiple firings of conventional missiles in waters off Taiwan as part of planned exercises in six zones set to run until noon on Sunday. It activated more than 100 planes, including fighter jets and bombers, and over 10 warships, state broadcaster CCTV said.
Taiwan's defence ministry said it scrambled jets to warn away 22 Chinese fighter aircraft that crossed the Taiwan Strait median line into its air defence zone, while Japan protested that five missiles appeared to land in its economic zone.
"The U.S.-Taiwan collusion and provocation will only push Taiwan towards the abyss of disaster, bringing catastrophe to Taiwan compatriots," said a Chinese defence ministry spokesperson.
Responding to the Chinese drills, President Tsai Ing-wen said Taiwan would not provoke conflicts but would firmly defend its sovereignty and national security.
"Taiwan will never be knocked down by challenges," Tsai said in a recorded video message to the people of Taiwan.
"We are calm and not impetuous, we are rational and not provocative, but we will also be firm and not shirk."
Taiwan said 11 Chinese Dongfeng ballistic missiles had been fired in nearby waters - the first time since 1996. read more
Taiwan officials said the drills violated United Nations rules, invaded its space and threatened free air and sea navigation. It has been self-ruled since 1949, when Mao Zedong's communists took power in Beijing after defeating Chiang Kai-sheks Kuomintang (KMT) nationalists in a civil war, prompting the KMT-led government to retreat to the island.
The military activity followed Pelosi's unannounced visit of support to Taiwan in defiance of warnings from China.
Before the drills officially began, Chinese navy ships and military aircraft briefly crossed the Taiwan Strait median line several times on Thursday morning, a Taiwanese source briefed on the matter told Reuters. read more
By midday, warships from both sides remained in close proximity as Taiwan also scrambled jets and deployed missile systems to track Chinese aircraft crossing the line.
"They flew in and then flew out, again and again. They continue to harass us," the Taiwanese source said.
China, which has long said it reserves the right to take Taiwan by force, says its differences with the island are an internal affair. read more
In Taiwan, life was largely normal despite worries that Beijing could even fire a missile over the main island as North Korea did over Japan's northern island of Hokkaido in 2017.
"When China says it wants to annex Taiwan by force, they have actually said that for quite a while," said Chen Ming-cheng, a 38-year-old realtor. "From my personal understanding, they are trying to deflect public anger, the anger of their own people, and turn it onto Taiwan."
Taiwan said that websites of its defence ministry, foreign ministry and the presidential office were attacked by hackers, and warned of coming "psychological warfare".
'COMRADE PELOSI'
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi called Pelosi's visit to Taiwan a "manic, irresponsible and highly irrational" act, state broadcaster CCTV reported.
Wang, speaking at a meeting of Southeast Asian foreign ministers in Cambodia, said China had tried to avert crisis by diplomatic means but would never let its core interests be hurt.
Unusually, the drills in six areas around Taiwan were announced with a locator map circulated by China's official Xinhua news agency - a factor that for some analysts illustrated playing to both domestic and foreign audiences.
In Beijing, security near the U.S. Embassy was unusually tight though there were no signs of significant protests.
"I think this (Pelosi's visit) is a good thing," said a man surnamed Zhao in Beijing. "It gives us an opportunity to surround Taiwan, then to use this opportunity to take Taiwan by force. I think we should thank Comrade Pelosi."
Pelosi, the highest-level U.S. visitor to Taiwan in 25 years, praised its democracy and pledged American solidarity during her brief stopover. Chinese anger could not stop world leaders from travelling there, she said.
"Our delegation came to Taiwan to make unequivocally clear that we will not abandon Taiwan," Pelosi told Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen, whom Beijing suspects of pushing for formal independence - a red line for China.
China summoned the U.S. ambassador in Beijing in protest and halted several agricultural imports from Taiwan.
The United States and the foreign ministers of the Group of Seven nations warned China against using Pelosi's visit as a pretext for military action against Taiwan.
The United States has no official diplomatic relations with Taiwan but is bound by U.S. law to provide it with the means to defend itself. Taiwan rejects China's sovereignty claims, saying only the islanders themselves can decide their future.

Pure Saber-rattling.

China knows better than attack Taiwan. It'd invite open war which would lead to either nuclear disaster worldwide or, short of that, a choke hold of the Malacca Strait which would strangle China's economy in less than half a year. Neither of which gives China much leverage for alliances that would last the length of a drawn out war.

Not to mention if you attacked Taiwan and you fucked up the big reason for taking Taiwan (the semi-conductor chip factories) then you've triggered a World War for nothing.

This is purely propaganda designed for the Chinese populace.

Just push the button already
I'm ready

lol Biden should go next hell let all of them show up in Taiwan and announce Taiwan is an independent country fuck em

that sounds so overdramatic for just visiting, they feel that threatened?

They're doing all this after Pelosi left?

Kinda weird

Big_Nabendu posted...

Just push the button

what does this button do?

Biofighter55 posted...

that sounds so overdramatic for just visiting, they feel that threatened?

They continue to insist the Taiwan is a breakaway province of China that needs to be reclaimed. They're throwing a fit because whenever a world leader visits Taiwan directly and doesn't go through China it delegitimizes their claim. Given everything going on in Ukraine right now, plus how badly the Hong Kong reunification went, they're probably extra sensitive to people pointing out that you can't claim ownership over something just because it once used to be a part of you.

They Streisanded the absolute fuck out of this. No one would have cared about Pelosi's visit if China hadn't whinged and moaned so much about it.

kingdrake2 posted...

what does this button do?

It's the Megas button. It can do anything.

s0nicfan posted...

They continue to insist the Taiwan is a breakaway province of China that needs to be reclaimed. They're throwing a fit because whenever a world leader visits Taiwan directly and doesn't go through China it delegitimizes their claim. Given everything going on in Ukraine right now, plus how badly the Hong Kong reunification went, they're probably extra sensitive to people pointing out that you can't claim ownership over something just because it once used to be a part of you.

soo theyre a crazy stalker ex that still wants to think they with their ex-boyfriend/girlfriend?

smh China.

Biofighter55 posted...

soo theyre a crazy stalker ex that still wants to think they with their ex-boyfriend/girlfriend?

Basically.

And they threaten "Domestic Violence" via Military Invasion of Taiwan if anybody else recognizes Taiwan as a independent country.

Biofighter55 posted...

soo theyre a crazy stalker ex that still wants to think they with their ex-boyfriend/girlfriend?

Well, it's a bit more complicated than that. China had a civil war led by Mao and his communist faction and the original Chinese government lost and fled to taiwan. So not only is China pissed that the rest of the world treats Taiwan like its own country, but it has an extra special built-in inferiority complex because that thriving little island also represents the faction that they forced out in the first place.

In practice it is very similar to the Russia / Ukraine situation. Ukraine used to be part of Russia when it was the ussr, but since breaking apart they were starting to do really well for themselves. So Russia swept in and said "no, you're still a part of us and we're taking you back even though you've been your own nation for a long time."

CableZL posted...

They're doing all this after Pelosi left?

Kinda weird

Not really when you get mad at somebody do you like knock all the stuff off your table when they're there or do you wait until they leave and close the door and then push everything on the floor

China reminds me of that video of the dogs snarling and barking at each other through a gate, then the gate opens, they act all calm and don't want no smoke, then the gate closes again between them and they go crazy at each other.

EDIT: This one
https://youtu.be/6zUc-mpMGrs

Irony posted...

Not really when you get mad at somebody do you like knock all the stuff off your table when they're there or do you wait until they leave and close the door and then push everything on the floor

... I don't do any of that stuff at all

CableZL posted...

... I don't do any of that stuff at all

Then you're the weird one

Poor China, all bark and no bite

Irony posted...

Then you're the weird one

Why is it considered normal to destroy your own stuff just because you're mad at someone?

Is that rhetorical?

Seems like a great time to say Genshin Impact sucks. Gacha shit is for bots.

Xi Jinping wants to be a big league Mao-era dictator but this is his first test

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Seems like a great time to say Genshin Impact sucks. Gacha shit is for bots.

Tbf it's more successful than Viewtiful Joe and is now more well known.

Irony posted...

Tbf it's more successful than Viewtiful Joe and is now more well known.

Lots of shit games are. Graphics and being conned by lootboxes seem to be more important than gameplay to most. That is the tragedy of video games.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Lots of shit games are. Graphics and being conned by lootboxes seem to be more important than gameplay to most. That is the tragedy of video games.

Best part is, with the focus on cosmetics (still preferable to pay 2 win), you're literally just paying for graphics

They had to do something or the 1.5 billion citizens in China will be extremely upset. I doubt they are really gonna go after Taiwan in the near future and will just keep the status quo. They just need to create propaganda to settle down the citizens. Say all the bad things about CCP you want, but they need to use that to control 1.5 billion people. Can you imagine if the US had 5 times more people with the current situation with riots and stuff.

I heard theyre blocking off the banks with tanks

Spinal163 posted...

They had to do something or the 1.5 billion citizens in China will be extremely upset. I doubt they are really gonna go after Taiwan in the near future and will just keep the status quo. They just need to create propaganda to settle down the citizens. Say all the bad things about CCP you want, but they need to use that to control 1.5 billion people. Can you imagine if the US had 5 times more people with the current situation with riots and stuff.

Will the people actually be upset though? It isn't as though Taiwan killed Chinese citizens.

that guy in beijing trolling lol

pogo_rabid posted...

EDIT: This one
https://youtu.be/6zUc-mpMGrs

Internet tough talk be like....

wackyteen posted...

Will the people actually be upset though? It isn't as though Taiwan killed Chinese citizens.

Even if a portion of them are upset because of nationalism (Taiwan is part of China), that could be more than every countries population in the world besides India They start to riot and it will be extreme chaos.

People were accusing Russia of the same "tough guy act" before they actually invaded. The threat shouldn't be taken lightly.

All I know is Taiwanese music is actually good while mainland China music is mostly crap

JFK here, about to rise and settle this for good

Squall28 posted...

People were accusing Russia of the same "tough guy act" before they actually invaded. The threat shouldn't be taken lightly.

The difference is that Russia invading Ukraine is perfectly feasible since they share a huge border, China is much less likely to believe they have a realistic chance of victory since invading over sea and air is a lot harder than over land. The bigger concern is that every time they do this kind of shit there's the chance of something going wrong, some sort of miscommunication or misunderstanding leading to shots being fired and things escalating from there before anyone can cool it down.

Panthera posted...

The difference is that Russia invading Ukraine is perfectly feasible since they share a huge border, China is much less likely to believe they have a realistic chance of victory since invading over sea and air is a lot harder than over land. The bigger concern is that every time they do this kind of shit there's the chance of something going wrong, some sort of miscommunication or misunderstanding leading to shots being fired and things escalating from there before anyone can cool it down.

And even bigger concerns that if errant shots were fired, if they somehow hit the inner island of Taiwan, and they destroyed the whole reason China actually wants Taiwan in the first place.

Yes, there is the historical aspect of it, but if China can seize the chip factories of Taiwan, they control the future of the global economy. They control the future of technological advancements. They get a nearly unchallenged say in who gets what in terms of computers, smart phones, etc. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Taiwan would sooner self-destruct those factories than let the PRC assume full control of the island.