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Dan_Haren-
08/04/22 12:45:34 AM
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Wife is applying for a job to be a nursing clinical instructor. They have this requirement.

WTF is a diversity equity statement
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Tenlaar
08/04/22 12:48:16 AM
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It is exactly what it sounds like it is.
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pogo_rabid
08/04/22 12:58:53 AM
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It's a gigantic warning sign that if she gets the job, there will be so many headaches that it won't be worth it.

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Robot2600
08/04/22 12:59:18 AM
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a statement about your dedication to diversity, equity, and inclusion.

these are as standard as a resum now. you better google up how to write one.

basically you want to talk about how DEI are something you are all about and how you've demonstrated those principles in other aspects of your life (ie previous jobs).

so, for example, a Nurse might talk about how they have fought against racial bias in healthcare by first being aware 1) such a bias exists (and that 2) even non-white healthcare workers can demonstrate this) bias 3) how important it is to fight systemic racism in the medical industry

you also need examples of HOW you've done this. Maybe the nurse in question makes an extra effort to listen to non-white patients and to believe them when they report pain levels unless there are red flags (heroin track marks).

or maybe it's something else for you wife, because she's a teacher, but it should be something along these lines.

they are pretty serious too; softball responses are not what they are looking for: they want you to prove that you are not racist, sexist, homophobic, biphobic, transphobic, xenophobic, ableist, misogynistic, and, furthermore that you are enthusiastic about the idea of diversity (not just tepidly tolerant, not calling everyone a snowflake at work, not saying everything is "toooo PC", etc.).

Best thing to happen to the recent hiring process, imo. I think they are awesome.

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ThePrinceFish
08/04/22 1:00:30 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
a statement about your dedication to diversity, equity, and inclusion.

these are as standard as a resum now. you better google up how to write one.

basically you want to talk about how DEI are something you are all about and how you've demonstrated those principles in other aspects of your life (ie previous jobs).

so, for example, a Nurse might talk about how they have fought against racial bias in healthcare by first being aware 1) such a bias exists (and that 2) even non-white healthcare workers can demonstrate this) bias 3) how important it is to fight systemic racism in the medical industry

you also need examples of HOW you've done this. Maybe the nurse in question makes an extra effort to listen to non-white patients and to believe them when they report pain levels unless there are red flags (heroin track marks).

or maybe it's something else for you wife, because she's a teacher, but it should be something along these lines.

they are pretty serious too; softball responses are not what they are looking for: they want you to prove that you are not racist, sexist, homophobic, biphobic, transphobic, xenophobic, ableist, misogynistic, and, furthermore that you are enthusiastic about these ideas (not just tepidly tolerant).

Best thing to happen to the recent hiring process, imo. I think they are awesome.
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kingdrake2
08/04/22 1:00:55 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
there will be so many headaches that it won't be worth it.


already doesn't sound worth it.

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GameboyTroy
08/04/22 1:06:03 AM
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What does equity mean?

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Robot2600
08/04/22 1:07:13 AM
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have fun working retail or manual labor
every office job will have one of these now

for a few years Im sure engineers, programmers, and IT can squeak out some jobs without a DEI statement. this won't last forever.

my friend, for example, is a research Biochemist for a private company. They asked for a DEI statement from him because he manages a lab. He asks for DEI statements from ppl he hires.

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Robot2600
08/04/22 1:11:18 AM
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GameboyTroy posted...
What does equity mean?

roughly equality. being fair and impartial.

so, for example, someone with a wheelchair isn't excluded because you just HAD to have the company picnic on top of a mountain. that men and women get promotions based on merit and not gender-bias. that non-white (or non-christian, or christian) employees can all do their jobs fairly. that people arent passed up for promotion because they got pregnant. that fathers can ALSO have parental leave, leave work early to pick up kids, etc etc.

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A_Good_Boy
08/04/22 1:11:22 AM
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All these employers are going woke so surely they'll go broke.

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DarkChozoGhost
08/04/22 1:25:29 AM
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Google "equality vs equity" and go to the images tab. It will become clear to you very fast

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
08/05/22 10:19:58 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
have fun working retail or manual labor
every office job will have one of these now
Working in an office and have applied and been promoted in the last year. Never heard of it

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Kloe_Rinz
08/05/22 10:57:02 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Working in an office and have applied and been promoted in the last year. Never heard of it
They dont exist outside of the one place TCs wife applied for or other extremely small dumb companies. The people itt are playing along
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COVxy
08/05/22 10:58:38 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
They dont exist outside of the one place TCs wife applied for or other extremely small dumb companies. The people itt are playing along

No, for many many professional jobs, they are a thing.

This topic was created to generate outrage though. So you are helping TC's cause.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/05/22 10:59:53 AM
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sounds dumb but I wouldn't be shocked if they're needed

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Guide
08/05/22 11:01:08 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
a statement about your dedication to diversity, equity, and inclusion.

these are as standard as a resum now. you better google up how to write one.

basically you want to talk about how DEI are something you are all about and how you've demonstrated those principles in other aspects of your life (ie previous jobs).

so, for example, a Nurse might talk about how they have fought against racial bias in healthcare by first being aware 1) such a bias exists (and that 2) even non-white healthcare workers can demonstrate this) bias 3) how important it is to fight systemic racism in the medical industry

you also need examples of HOW you've done this. Maybe the nurse in question makes an extra effort to listen to non-white patients and to believe them when they report pain levels unless there are red flags (heroin track marks).

or maybe it's something else for you wife, because she's a teacher, but it should be something along these lines.

they are pretty serious too; softball responses are not what they are looking for: they want you to prove that you are not racist, sexist, homophobic, biphobic, transphobic, xenophobic, ableist, misogynistic, and, furthermore that you are enthusiastic about the idea of diversity (not just tepidly tolerant, not calling everyone a snowflake at work, not saying everything is "toooo PC", etc.).

Best thing to happen to the recent hiring process, imo. I think they are awesome.

I am fairly certain that this is you blowing it up, and that most places will require little more than a signature.

Actually, your examples don't seem to be anything beyond baseline not-being-racist. That's what I would describe as "tepid" by default: Not having some nonsense bias about the black people pain tolerance myth. Still shocked that that persists.

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radical_rhino
08/05/22 11:06:04 AM
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Just write some generic bullshit about how you love diversity and hate racism. These statements are just mandates from corporate. The hiring managers dont give a shit.

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Squall28
08/05/22 11:11:22 AM
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My company made us set a diversity/equity goal for the year. Already forgot what mine was.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
08/05/22 12:23:30 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
a statement about your dedication to diversity, equity, and inclusion.

these are as standard as a resum now. you better google up how to write one.

basically you want to talk about how DEI are something you are all about and how you've demonstrated those principles in other aspects of your life (ie previous jobs).

so, for example, a Nurse might talk about how they have fought against racial bias in healthcare by first being aware 1) such a bias exists (and that 2) even non-white healthcare workers can demonstrate this) bias 3) how important it is to fight systemic racism in the medical industry

you also need examples of HOW you've done this. Maybe the nurse in question makes an extra effort to listen to non-white patients and to believe them when they report pain levels unless there are red flags (heroin track marks).

or maybe it's something else for you wife, because she's a teacher, but it should be something along these lines.

they are pretty serious too; softball responses are not what they are looking for: they want you to prove that you are not racist, sexist, homophobic, biphobic, transphobic, xenophobic, ableist, misogynistic, and, furthermore that you are enthusiastic about the idea of diversity (not just tepidly tolerant, not calling everyone a snowflake at work, not saying everything is "toooo PC", etc.).

Best thing to happen to the recent hiring process, imo. I think they are awesome.

People can just lie about this you know. Its not something easy to verify. What are they going to do? Look through your FB posts to try and check your wholesomeness?


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COVxy
08/05/22 12:37:36 PM
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The whole point is to discuss policies within the organization, whatever it may be, to increase equity. Not to show that you aren't a racist.

So, closer to my experience, if you are applying to teach or run a lab, it's a question of what policies you might enact to ensure equity and inclusion. For instance, heavy recruiting from minority inclusion programs may be one.

It's not really as silly as many of you are suggesting. I don't know how much it actually helps, but it should hopefully provide employers with an idea of how seriously the applicant has engaged with these issues.

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Guide
08/05/22 12:43:19 PM
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COVxy posted...
The whole point is to discuss policies within the organization, whatever it may be, to increase equity. Not to show that you aren't a racist.

So, closer to my experience, if you are applying to teach or run a lab, it's a question of what policies you might enact to ensure equity and inclusion. For instance, heavy recruiting from minority inclusion programs may be one.

It's not really as silly as many of you are suggesting. I don't know how much it actually helps, but it should hopefully provide employers with an idea of how seriously the applicant has engaged with these issues.

That makes so much more sense. Thanks.

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Questionmarktarius
08/05/22 12:45:59 PM
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Equality causes equity to just happen, eventually.
Equity-first just means you're trying to create an ersatz equality, by reducing individuals to checkboxes.
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COVxy
08/05/22 12:48:50 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Equality causes equity to just happen, eventually.

Definitely not true.

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Raikuro
08/05/22 12:54:00 PM
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Do I have to put being gay on my resume now.
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Guide
08/05/22 1:41:51 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Do I have to put being gay on my resume now.
"Actively pursuant of same-gender affirmation via personal involvement with interested parties"

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