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KFHEWUI
07/29/22 11:51:56 AM
#1:


https://twitter.com/panja_mani/status/1552755249743630337

They even censored a character's knee... WTF?!

Here's Manga Up's explanation...

https://twitter.com/MangaUpGlobal/status/1552187052636004352

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teep_
07/29/22 11:54:08 AM
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https://twitter.com/RareTypeDT/status/1552002960519008256

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Kim_Seong-a
07/29/22 11:54:28 AM
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My favorite thing here is that they censored a woman's fully-clothed crotch.

Like...are jeans just generally offensive? Or is my eyesight just really bad and she actually has a grotesquely detailed camel toe popping out of the seams?

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Relient_K
07/29/22 12:01:06 PM
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I just don't understand censorship like this. I'm kind of a prude myself but if someone wants content like this, they want all of it. Watered down and censored versions are just lame all around.

If you absolutely must, put an age restriction on the uncensored versions or something. I just can't imagine there's even one person out there who actually wants to read pervy manga but wants cleavage and such censored.

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EmbraceOfDeath
07/29/22 12:07:59 PM
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The black bars just make it seem like there's something more lewd behind them than fully clothed parts.

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PerseusRad
07/29/22 12:10:06 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
My favorite thing here is that they censored a woman's fully-clothed crotch.

Like...are jeans just generally offensive? Or is my eyesight just really bad and she actually has a grotesquely detailed camel toe popping out of the seams?
Some think its a bot. Iirc Ive seen a few people post examples of something that should have in no way been censored, even if they were being super restrictive.

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NeonOctopus
07/29/22 12:16:21 PM
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Why did they censor the cleavage in 1 panel, but left the titties flopping in the wind in another panel on the same page >_>

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FortuneCookie
07/29/22 12:17:12 PM
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What the ___?
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kirbymuncher
07/29/22 12:21:39 PM
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it's pretty clearly just a poorly set-up AI

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gunplagirl
07/29/22 12:27:28 PM
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Ironically covering up cleavage like that just makes it look worse, like she's just got her tits hanging out

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Questionmarktarius
07/29/22 12:38:37 PM
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Yup, this is totally going to combat casual piracy.
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KFHEWUI
07/29/22 3:04:42 PM
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https://twitter.com/YokaiRiderVT/status/1552334398170828802

Even censoring a bikini....

https://twitter.com/Doug_Kelly55/status/1552203685656141825


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CaptainStrong
07/29/22 3:23:11 PM
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ICYMI
Is it really so hard for people to actually type shit out nowadays? I'm so sick and tired of having to Google all these initialisms so I can understand what people are talking about.
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Foppe
07/29/22 3:30:15 PM
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So bad so it is good.

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Etna
07/29/22 3:31:35 PM
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Just can the service

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Mibahlzitch
07/29/22 3:34:01 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
My favorite thing here is that they censored a woman's fully-clothed crotch.

Like...are jeans just generally offensive? Or is my eyesight just really bad and she actually has a grotesquely detailed camel toe popping out of the seams?
It's funny because putting censor boxes on things that actually aren't censor worthy makes your imagination kick in and make it worse. Like that joke where a guy adds random bleeps to normal dialogue in a cartoon and makes it sound like they're cussing like crazy.

Some of those for just boobs under shirts make your brain go "is she topless?" When actually she just has boobs.

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Kimbos_Egg
07/29/22 3:40:35 PM
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there is literally no reason to use this shitty app.

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KFHEWUI
07/29/22 3:40:50 PM
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Etna posted...
Just can the service

The way it is designed is absolutely baffling.

I hate to admit this, but the censorship isn't even the worst part about this. I can chuckle at the absurdity of how it looks (they really need to roll out regional variants of content distribution, that said), but the issue is the fact the app/site is just filled to the brim of what I'd effectively call micro-transactions. They divide up the chapters into segments, and you pay "coins" per segment. So you don't even get a full chapter experience. You also have to buy "coins" in batches. And unless I'm remembering wrong, these are only "rental", so you don't "keep it".

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3176717

https://twitter.com/ChibiReviews/status/1552719678241382402

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teep_
07/29/22 11:48:21 PM
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It's like Squeenix saw MangaPlus and thought "how can we make it worse?"

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Questionmarktarius
07/29/22 11:49:03 PM
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So... I guess the rumor about Sony buying Squeenix is legit then.
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Kami_no_Kami
07/30/22 12:07:48 AM
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kirbymuncher posted...
it's pretty clearly just a poorly set-up AI
This. The page where one bit of cleavage is censored while the same cleavage in a different panel isnt is a dead give-away. That knee is basically just a semi-circle so I could easily see a bot mistaking it for a boob or buttcheek.
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Questionmarktarius
07/30/22 12:14:29 AM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
That knee is basically just a semi-circle so I could easily see a bot mistaking it for a boob or buttcheek.
That knee is the "yeah, this is AI" tell.
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Zeeak4444
07/30/22 1:17:26 AM
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CaptainStrong posted...
Is it really so hard for people to actually type shit out nowadays? I'm so sick and tired of having to Google all these initialisms so I can understand what people are talking about.

bro no offense but that just speaks volumes about your inability to pick up context clues.

Ive never seen that acronym and it was clearly in case you missed it.


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dioxxys
07/30/22 1:29:35 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Its made by Japanese people mostly for Japanese teenagers, it has nothing to do with "another country trying to portray asians as exotic". Its just an after the fact thing that people from other countries like and enjoy anime and manga.
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Questionmarktarius
07/30/22 1:31:32 AM
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dioxxys posted...
Its just an after the fact thing that people from other countries like and enjoy anime and manga.
Is Squeenix trying to do a "universal" version of the app, for also Indonesia and Saudi Arabia?
No other scenario makes any sense, other than "we let an AI do it".
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Beast_Le_Chonk7
07/30/22 1:33:18 AM
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That looks awful

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kirbymuncher
07/30/22 1:52:45 AM
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dioxxys posted...
Its made by Japanese people mostly for Japanese teenagers, it has nothing to do with "another country trying to portray asians as exotic".
I think what he's trying to say is that the censorship process portrays them this way, not the manga itself

ultimately though I don't think it portrays anyone as anything since I don't think this was a real decision made by a person actually thinking about the problem, the solution, and the result. it's just sort of a dumb thing that happened probably prompted by someone who doesn't really know what they're doing

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kirbymuncher
07/30/22 2:03:41 AM
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If I had to guess it probably went something like

person A: "hey I think some countries we're available in might need us to censor some of the more lewd bits"
person B: "hmm that sounds like a lot of work... oh wait, I just found an AI online you can buy that does this automatically?"
person A: "great, just run that real quick and then we're good to release"

and both person A and B have probably never read a single manga from start to end before

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CM_Ponch
07/30/22 3:17:23 AM
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Lmao, what a joke

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Poorly
07/30/22 5:33:09 AM
#34:


NeonOctopus posted...
Why did they censor the cleavage in 1 panel, but left the titties flopping in the wind in another panel on the same page >_>
To trigger the boob lovers

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Ivynn
07/30/22 6:00:32 AM
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What is the point of this? Like who would look at this and go "this is fine" >_>

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Questionmarktarius
07/30/22 6:01:56 AM
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Ivynn posted...
What is the point of this? Like who would look at this and go "this is fine" >_>
Someone who (secretly) jerks it to knees.
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SuperVegitoFAN
07/30/22 6:24:00 AM
#37:


This is so absurd its actually hilarious.
NeonOctopus posted...
Why did they censor the cleavage in 1 panel, but left the titties flopping in the wind in another panel on the same page >_>

Yeah lol, its not even consistent.

Cleavage is one thing, but they went further than that...

Is this like the whole "PG13 means one Fuck per movie" type deal or something?

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Foppe
07/30/22 6:29:48 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Someone who (secretly) jerks it to knees.
...but the knee is censored!

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VayneSolo
07/30/22 6:32:52 AM
#39:


Who is such an app meant for? Feminists and prudes? But, why would those people want to read manga of all things? They would be much better reading those Marvel comics with inclusive characters, like Spacespace and Snowflake.
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Etna
07/31/22 7:23:22 PM
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Fuckin prudes ruin everything

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Onimusha
07/31/22 7:28:28 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...
Is it really so hard for people to actually type shit out nowadays? I'm so sick and tired of having to Google all these initialisms so I can understand what people are talking about.
IRL ROFL RN, NGL

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