Current Events > What should I do about my job situation ? Your thoughts?

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Context, I have a few interviews for soccer head coach division III head opportunities, after graduating college I was an asst coach for soccer for about 6 years before I got out and got a diff job. I took the new job since I was frustrated with couldn't get a head gig and it was something new. when I was in H.S and college and during after post grad I always wanted to be a head coach.

my position now. even though its noting to do with soccer, I get paid to legit sometimes do 15 hrs a week (full salary and benefits) its admin stuff and some days I can work from home and its literally during the year its way way less work than soccer in terms of time commitment and everything. sure im not that passionate about it and its whatever but the fact that I make my hours, come in to office when I want and only for a few hours sometimes, its a dream gig in terms of workload and pay.

my family thinks its terrible that I am in this comfort and think they raised me better. my friends are split 50/50

50% say I need to take the gig becuase I always wanted to and why not, could always do something else if it doesn't work out

50% say its a dream office type gig I have now where you don't have to do half as much work and since im still doing a very good job i could always move into this new space and def catapult and more opportunities for advancement than the soccer gig ( even tho I don't care about advancement and making more money)

I like my gig now not because of really what i do (its okay) but im actually good at it (maybe better than the soccer ) but because i make hours I can game and do whatever for most of the year usually, it really is comfort.

im afraid of taking the soccer gig because im not as passionate as I was 2 years ago when I got out and a lot of work that I need to be invested in ( I think I could be) plus my cuirrent job I actually did had to work a lot my first year more than the average person in my position but now im reaping the benefits if that makes sesne as my boss said I would once I get everything "situational"

what do you guys as complete Randoms make of all this? my family is Kinda disappointed since they are hard workers and think im just takin the "easy" way at and that at the end of the day they want me to be happy and do what I want regardless. even tho I do feel ive been complacent myself

its a battle of doing what I might enjoy as opposed to being comfort/free time

thoughts?

edit*, I haven't had a job offer yet for the soccer gig but i could in the next 2 months and I would need to decide super fast I know some of you think im thinking ahead and I need an offer first but i want to know beforehand

any thoughts, comments or questions would be appreciated as I help to talk this out

Following your dream is overrated.

What the pay difference?

@FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER

im going to edit this as it may be important.

the coaching gig will be 3-5k more

I would actually try the head coaching job out in that case. Would be fun and you would probably pick up the passion for soccer again.

And im sure the job security for that coaching job wouldnt be too much pressure like other coaching jobs where they fire you after a losing season?

I'm in a similar situation, where I have a very convenient office job that isn't rewarding in any real way, except in my case the alternatives are also things that I wouldn't care about, but would mean a bump in pay/benefits.

Imo: the convenient office jobs will still be around if you give coaching a go and decide it isn't for you.

@FlAMING_EVIL_HOMER

I think I would, would be a lot of work but I know id be passionate about it, I thin i would have imposter syndrome ab it my first year, recruiting would be harder than I remember it. its hard to get these socer cosching gigs weirdly for me I don't interview well. itried for 6 years before leavingit

the job I have now I could prolly get again somewhere if I wanted, that is true

@Antifar

I kinda care about my current job in a way, in a little regard. it is a bit more rewarding and I could def see myself doing it for years as well since I can "coast" on it

A lot of my peers or other coaching friends that I talked to actually think its pretty cool and a lot of people wish they could do the same thing or be in a position that I am in. they think my current position is good for me

do you ever think about a career change or something you really strongly wanted to do aside form your current job??

ryudo500 posted...

do you ever think about a career change or something you really strongly wanted to do aside form your current job??

Yeah, I've decided I'm gonna learn to code and try and make a career off that.

ryudo500 posted...

the job I have now I could prolly get again somewhere if I wanted, that is true

This being the case, and the coaching job paying more, Id say go ahead and give the coaching job a shot if you get the offer. If there was something unique about your current job that you couldnt reasonably find elsewhere then I might give it some pause, but it sounds like youve got pretty much nothing to lose that you cant eventually get back if the career change doesnt work to your liking.

Your family is being lame and thinks you need to torture yourself on the grind to get their work approval. At the end of the day you do what makes you happy and I assume work isnt what makes anyone happy so the less of that the better.

Take the job and i'll see you coaching the world cup team when the current guy gets fired.

@--Zero-

I wouldn't say lame, I think they know im being complacent and have gotten lazy the last 2 years, like I legit go to bed at 5 am 6 am wakeup at 2pm, go into office for 2 hours then just go home after, that's my day for like 40-50% of my worklife, its not something imn proud of but i have been complacent with the low workload for 75% of my time. lie anew game comes out, I can grind ttf ou tof it more so than someone working 40 hr a week or someeon in a soccer coaching position on non summer months lol

25% of my work is a lot of workload kinda but the other 75% is what i said above

ryudo500 posted...

@--Zero-

I wouldn't say lame, I think they know im being complacent and have gotten lazy the last 2 years, like I legit go to bed at 5 am 6 am wakeup at 2pm, go into office for 2 hours then just go home after, that's my day for like 40-50% of my worklife, its not something imn proud of but i have been complacent with the low workload for 75% of my time.

25% of my work is a lot of workload kinda but the other 75% is what i said above

I mean it sounds like you care a lot about what they think and it reflects on how you think about yourself in terms of work load. Life isnt about how hard you work and work isnt the pinnacle of someones achievement in life.

--Zero- posted...

I mean it sounds like you care a lot about what they think and it reflects on how you think about yourself in terms of work load. Life isnt about how hard you work and work isnt the pinnacle of someones achievement in life.

@--Zero-
I agree with what you're saying, you dont think there is something wrong or bad about being comfort within my situation with teh amt of putting out and whatnot?

I don tcare what anyone else thinks but sometimes I feel blah, I dont hate my job, dont love it, and Icould see myself in same posiiton for a long time.

ryudo500 posted...

@--Zero-
I agree with what you're saying, you dont think there is something wrong or bad about being comfort within my situation with teh amt of putting out and whatnot?

I don tcare what anyone else thinks but sometimes I feel blah, I dont hate my job, dont love it, and Icould see myself in same posiiton for a long time.

As long as the pay is good enough and youre comfortable then yeah I would stick with your current job. Maybe take some time off and do some traveling to add some fulfillment to the current rut youre in?

I have and do, enjoy my free time to play games, do whatever I want, I can travel a bit in summer months if I wanted to. just wondering if I should take the gig since its something I haven't done before and wanted to do for awhile before I got this new lifestyle lol

@MrToothHasYou

thats what my one friend said. there isnt particularly anything unique, its just the situation is comfort

talked to my parents. I asked them their thoughts and they said I need to do what I want to do and its up to me. whatever best makes me happy.

@SauI_Goodman
Never read this until now lol, i wouldn't want a high pressure job like that tho

anymore thoughts?

to be fair, there's a high chance you're not as passionate because you're not in the industry. once you get back in it and get your feet wet, it could very well trigger something in you that makes you realize you actually do love it. it happens often.

i personally am a lazy guy who love comfort. but in my opinion, you can only really live in the comfort of laziness once you actually hit what you've been striving for. otherwise, you should keep striving. passion and then rest.

do the coaching gig, see if it still fits with you. you might find that it becomes less work and less effort as time goes on and you can still be lazy while feeling very productive. if it feels natural and comfortable after a short while, then stay. otherwise, go back to the laziness and comfort that you're in now.

@GuerrillaSoldier

you are right. im taking the interview and if I don't like some of the stuff they say (pay is close ot mine., have to travel to my own games by driving) then I wont take it.

I think overall people like you saying getting passion again once in it are right, i might flare up for it a bit,. its a bit more workload but half of it is something I prolly get back to enjoying

anyone else with thoughts?

talked to my parents and they said its up to me nd what i want to do.

about to take the interview

ryudo500 posted...

about to take the interview

Good luck!

in the end do what makes you happy as long as there is income to keep a roof over your head.

Blue_Target posted...

in the end do what makes you happy as long as there is income to keep a roof over your head.

This I mean if I could work less and make decent money I'd become complacent to but never ever listen to other people telling you you ain't working enough. Do what makes you happy should always be priority next to being able to provide for yourself.

i think I did okay on the interview. parents called ot ask how it went, they again said they want me to do what i want to do/

prolly wont hear back and when I do I might tak the 2nd interview but prolly wont take the job

they called me back, they want me for 2nd interview in person.

im not sure what to do

Sounds like your first job isn't rewarding whereas you are hoping the coaching will be a little bit more fulfilling. Just keep in mind fulfillment doesn't have to come from a job or career necessarily. Having your needs met with low hours and non-stressful work sounds amazing. The downtime can be used to volunteer or take up a hobby. Just my thoughts.

@Shadow20201

you are right, just got off the phone with an old buddy who has been coaching he is saying its weighing on him with the hours and might look to get out soon, he says he might jump ship to and try to do golf coaching at a school due to the less stress hours since he is in a sport that is more taxing and its weighing on him.

I thin at the end of the day thats what its about, my freedom of time and how even tho my jov is a bit stressful its not as stressful as the other job I would take.

I think im going to take the 2nd interview but only in my mind have like a 20% of accepting it. all my friends say taking the interview. isnt bad , can learn rom it and I could always say no

Shadow20201 posted...

Sounds like your first job isn't rewarding whereas you are hoping the coaching will be a little bit more fulfilling. Just keep in mind fulfillment doesn't have to come from a job or career necessarily. Having your needs met with low hours and non-stressful work sounds amazing. The downtime can be used to volunteer or take up a hobby. Just my thoughts.

My thoughts as well.

Im going to tak hte 2nd interview like I said, I think I need to but right now im 80% going to decline the offer if I get it.

also the salary increase would only be like 4-5k and not enough to justify

an extra 5k to drop a cushy ass job for anything in coaching? yeah, don't take that job.

Coaching, especially in college, is an extremely volatile profession. My advice is is to decide if the risk of possibly losing your job within 3-5 years is worth it. My other piece of advice is to finish the interview process. If youre offered you can always say no, and the experience of going through the process will benefit you if you do choose to eventually pursue a head coaching job.

I speak from experience.

@scorpion41 you speak as my friends who are in the business. you said the things that echoed ot me nad your post was solid and I will do just that. also surprised a lot of people have said similar things who aren't related to the field, just goes to show how many mature and well minded CE members there are!

since its D3, and the job/ program only has won about 4-7 games a YEAR TOTAL , my job security is safe as long as I don't get fired saying something bad or do shady shit etc

ryudo500 posted...

@scorpion41 you speak as my friends who are in the business. you said the things that echoed ot me nad your post was solid and I will do just that. also surprised a lot of people have said similar things who aren't related to the field, just goes to show how many mature and well minded CE members there are!

since its D3, and the job/ program only has won about 4-7 games a YEAR TOTAL , my job security is safe as long as I don't get fired saying something bad or do shady shit etc

You'll obviously be expected to build the program up. Theyre not going to hire someone who will maintain the status quo. I would check to see what their expectations are for the programs trajectory. A good building job will give you 3-5 years to get your players, buy-in, etc. and evaluate your overall progress. Going .500 or better within 2-3 years is a big step up, so if theyre looking for championships it might not be a good fit for a first time HC. I say that because youll be developing your own program as you develop the schools program, something youll take to the next possible job to use as a template. What youve seen as a player and assistant may not work for you.

@Psyloshsr thats exactly what my struggle is in taking it.