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Nerevarine791 07/24/22 11:52:53 PM #51: |
FortuneCookie posted... When religious fanatics take over, you get Sharia LawComparing right-wing christian nationalism to sharia is both islamophobic and entirely inaccurate. FortuneCookie posted... When racial supremacists take over, you get genocide or slavery. Both are oppressive, but they're different in their priorities and execution.The people in this country pushing for genocide and fascism are the same ones pushing for christian nationalism. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevarine791 07/24/22 11:53:30 PM #52: |
FortuneCookie posted... Nobody is saying Christians are the problem. It's extremist fundamentalist christian nationalists. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/24/22 11:55:50 PM #53: |
Nerevarine791 posted... Comparing right-wing christian nationalism to sharia is both islamophobic and entirely inaccurate. Not inherently. They aren't doing anything that Christians haven't done with absolute power. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FigureOfSpeech 07/24/22 11:57:53 PM #54: |
When it comes to rights? To rights? Dead. Dead to rights. That's it. Beyond saving. Beyond repair. Nation over. --- Always check timestamps... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 12:00:43 AM #55: |
Heartomaton posted... Like no one ever committed genocide or practiced slavery in the name of their religion. White supremacists will go after minority groups with far greater fervor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heartomaton 07/25/22 12:08:57 AM #57: |
FortuneCookie posted... White supremacists will go after minority groups with far greater fervor. Going after them with any fervor at all is wrong, regardless of who's doing it. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Heartomaton for President 2028. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 12:15:02 AM #58: |
If Christian nationalists achieved absolute power, it's possible that they would commit genocide or perpetuate slavery. If white supremacists achieved absolutely power, one or both would be guaranteed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevarine791 07/25/22 12:17:48 AM #59: |
FortuneCookie posted... If Christian nationalists achieved absolute power, it's possible that they would commit genocide or perpetuate slavery.The christian nationalists currently running the GOP are already pushing genocidal rhetoric against the trans community. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 07/25/22 12:22:28 AM #61: |
Xatrion posted... Oh come on guys, you don't have to worry about your rights. That is unless you are female, gay, bi, black, brown, trans, or not christian. --- Crown of creation, creation of shame. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sega97 07/25/22 12:23:30 AM #62: |
Comments didn't disappoint. Where is the utopia we were getting since orange man bad is gone? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevarine791 07/25/22 12:24:30 AM #63: |
Sega97 posted... Comments didn't disappoint.I mean, it's still your party pushing the fascist bullshit. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heartomaton 07/25/22 12:26:47 AM #65: |
FortuneCookie posted... If Christian nationalists achieved absolute power, it's possible that they would commit genocide or perpetuate slavery. If white supremacists achieved absolutely power, one or both would be guaranteed. This isn't a situation where any rational person should be comparing evils to see which is worse. Either one would mean the utter destruction of everything America is supposed to stand for, so neither one can be allowed to succeed. The fact that America has never actually been the idealistic nation it claimed to be is irrelevant right now, because either one of those groups gaining power would make even the history this country tries to hide look like a bad high school yearbook picture. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Heartomaton for President 2028. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 07/25/22 12:32:29 AM #66: |
If there was ever a time for a viable third party candidate to step onto the political scene, itd be 2024. That there isnt even a sniff of one, though, means that youre looking at (barring his arrest) Trump/DeSantis v. Whoever the Dems tap. Likely Newsome, Id wager. Not sure who his VP would be. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evening_Dragon 07/25/22 12:32:51 AM #67: |
Sega97 posted... Comments didn't disappoint. Who said we were getting a utopia? Why do you lie? --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReignFury 07/25/22 12:41:02 AM #68: |
Controlling and stripping voting rights. Challenges to parts of the constitution. Challenges to maximum terms for a potus. Refusals to concede office. Refusals to finalize vote counts. Challenges to gay and interracial marriage. Challenges to female bodily autonomy. Etc --- NO APOLOGIES ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VigorouslySwish 07/25/22 12:43:26 AM #69: |
It's gonna get bad no matter who wins. It should be pretty clear at this point that dems don't give a single flying fuck about actually trying to preserve democracy. All they care about is their financial portfolios, which tend to benefit from conservative political decisions. --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevarine791 07/25/22 12:48:07 AM #70: |
https://www.fr.de/politik/gewalt-in-gottes-namen-annika-brockschmidt-analysiert-die-religioese-rechte-amerikas-91102887.html https://www-fr-de.translate.goog/politik/gewalt-in-gottes-namen-annika-brockschmidt-analysiert-die-religioese-rechte-amerikas-91102887.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Despite the complexity of the situation, it was striking how frequently Christian symbols were combined with those of the White Supremacy movement. This solidarity caused confusion among many viewers: Why are people praying here marching alongside radical nationalists and racists to seek the lives of politicians?It wasn't a coincidence, it was an alliance that had been forged for a long time. The Christian nationalism seen on January 6 did not appear on the political scene with Donald Trump. On closer inspection, it was also unsurprising that racism was the connecting element between the Religious Right and white supremacists: from the early days of the organized modern Religious Right in the 1960s, racism was the driving force. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 10:38:00 AM #71: |
Heartomaton posted... This isn't a situation where any rational person should be comparing evils to see which is worse. Either one would mean the utter destruction of everything America is supposed to stand for, so neither one can be allowed to succeed. The fact that America has never actually been the idealistic nation it claimed to be is irrelevant right now, because either one of those groups gaining power would make even the history this country tries to hide look like a bad high school yearbook picture. I just think it's odd that we have Nazis waving their flags outside of the political rally and we still have people saying, "No, no, no. The Christian nationalists are worse." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 07/25/22 11:17:59 AM #73: |
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https://imgur.com/XFqHtXE.jpeg --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 11:57:59 AM #74: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] No, they're not. Not one person has answered my question from last night. If the Republican senators who overturned Roe v. Wade had woken up as atheists on the morning of the vote, do you really think they would have changed their positions? It's not about religion for them. For some of them, yes. As a whole? No. The goal is to control and to dominate, not to carry out the word of God. In the case of Nazis, the goal is to destroy. This is one case where the devil you know is certainly worse than the devil you don't know. Bad things have happened under theocracies. Nothing in human history has happened to compare to the Nazis. Besides, if they are the same, why not call them Nazis? Why call them Christian Nationalists? An offender is defined by their worst offense. You don't call an auto thief who assaults women a carjacker. You call him a rapist. By insisting that Christian Nationalist is the proper title, you're saying that people who commit evil in the name of religion are worse than Nazis. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 07/25/22 12:01:04 PM #76: |
FortuneCookie posted... If the Republican senators who overturned Roe v. Wade had woken up as atheists on the morning of the vote ....it was the Supreme Court. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 12:01:12 PM #77: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's very much worth answering since you insist that religion is the driving motivation. If they were suddenly devoid of religion, would they have changed their stance? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 12:01:38 PM #78: |
Heineken14 posted... ....it was the Supreme Court. Fuck me. That invalidates everything. If the people who made the decision.... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 07/25/22 12:03:25 PM #80: |
Nerevarine791 posted... Nobody is saying Christians are the problem. It's extremist fundamentalist christian nationalists.Can I use this for commie defense? Kthx --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 12:03:44 PM #81: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Oh, now there are multiple driving motivations. Last night, it was a one to one equation: their religion told them to. Today, it's a complex series of factors. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 07/25/22 12:21:15 PM #83: |
Bad_Mojo posted... It will literally be the same. No matter who is in office shit is going to be terrible. You got a Democratic person in the office now and look what happened - abortions are illegalIt's always nice to see my chud tags being reinforced. --- Twice impeached, one-term President Donald J. Trump: Officially the worst president in American history after his seditious, traitorous acts on Jan 6, 2021. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevarine791 07/25/22 1:01:15 PM #84: |
Nerevarine791 posted... https://www.fr.de/politik/gewalt-in-gottes-namen-annika-brockschmidt-analysiert-die-religioese-rechte-amerikas-91102887.htmlI like how Fortune ignored the article from an actual historian of rightwing christian extremism and proceeded to just continue shitposting --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RenescoStCewl 07/25/22 1:30:44 PM #85: |
FortuneCookie posted... Because scary Christian dystopias happen in fiction stories written by people with hateboners for Christianity and not in real life.A lot of the world was a scary Christian dystopia for most of the last 2000 years. --- He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 2:07:51 PM #86: |
Nerevarine791 posted... I like how Fortune ignored the article from an actual historian of rightwing christian extremism and proceeded to just continue shitposting Somehow, I doubt this article comes from a place of unbiased professionalism. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevarine791 07/25/22 2:09:08 PM #87: |
Lmao now were questioning the professionalism of respected historians when we disagree with them. THATs a really unbiased and intellectual take --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 2:12:44 PM #88: |
The moment you said Nazis and the religious right were the same is the moment I should have stopped humoring you. I'm not saying the latter isn't problematic. But the majority of them are far removed from the former - at least in terms of the severity of their goals. They are, unfortunately, voting for the same side. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 07/25/22 2:14:13 PM #89: |
If Trump wins there will literally be civil war. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 2:22:51 PM #90: |
I tell you what. When I'm off the clock, I'll give your article a sincere look over. I think the summation pretty much shows that the author went in looking for the conclusion they reached. But I'll look it over and see how credible their arguments are. I'll give you that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevarine791 07/25/22 2:23:34 PM #91: |
Lmfao --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 2:29:48 PM #92: |
Nerevarine791 posted... Lmfao I said I'd give it a fair going over once I had a chance. I can't be any fairer than that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevarine791 07/25/22 2:38:51 PM #93: |
"I'll give the historian a fair shot and see if I think their arguments are valid" Boy aren't you generous lmao. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 2:44:10 PM #94: |
Nerevarine791 posted... "I'll give the historian a fair shot and see if I think their arguments are valid" The excerpt you posted feels disingenuous, like the conclusion of someone who went in looking to find proof that Christianity was an ongoing detriment. Even so, it's only fair if I go and look at their case arguments. Even if they have a bias, it doesn't mean that they're necessarily wrong in the cases they bring up. So, yeah, I can give it a fair shot. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevarine791 07/25/22 2:45:36 PM #95: |
Do you have a background in historiography and research methods --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 2:49:12 PM #97: |
Nerevarine791 posted... Do you have a background in historiography and research methods I minored in psychology. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Agent_Stroud 07/25/22 2:49:26 PM #98: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/8/AAR6WtAADQKo.jpg --- "Palpy didn't get laid, the only people he seduced were Maul, Dooku and Anakin." -- WingZero0782, in response to an impromptu Star Wars lore discussion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/25/22 2:50:20 PM #99: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I hope they don't. I'm afraid though. Biden and Harris have lost considerable face while the right is galvanized by.... we're still debating on whether it's white supremacy or Christian nationalism, but it's one of those two things. <_< ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/25/22 4:50:01 PM #100: |
FortuneCookie posted... we're still debating on whether it's white supremacy or Christian nationalism, but it's one of those two things. <_<You are, the rest of us are accepting reality. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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