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TheBrainbuster 07/10/22 4:43:15 AM #1: |
Comedians -must- be able to say whatever the fuck they want, other than calling for outright violence. That is what makes comedy so great. I mean think about it. Nobody could be as honest about society as comedians. I harken back to Bill Hicks and George Carlin. Were they respectful about the subject matter they talked about? Absolutely not. They were grotesque and boorish. It was so ridiculous to see people my age get so upset about Chappelle saying he is Team TERF. It's a stand-up routine. He is there for laughs. Calm down and laugh about stuff. Lord knows this country is so fucked up at this point (elected reality TV star, Roe v Wade gone, COVID) that we all need to. Stop taking things so seriously. IMO --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunkyCat 07/10/22 4:45:48 AM #2: |
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TheBrainbuster 07/10/22 4:50:43 AM #4: |
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TheBrainbuster 07/10/22 4:52:03 AM #5: |
Or perhaps because you are so used to laughing about black people that you did not realize he has made a living off of making fun of vulnerable people. Or perhaps you're so Americanized that you don't see black people as vulnerable - despite them being the MOST vulnerable in American society. EDIT: It really does take a weird, almost depraved and self-inflated way of looking at society to laugh at all the "------ Family" skit and the "Racial Draft" skit - which are extremely offensive - but then be mad about Team TERF jokes. "HEY HOW DARE HIM SAY HE IS TEAM TERF!" "OMG a black milkman serving a white family in the 1950's with the last name ------ LOL! Now this is good ole' fashioned family comedy!" ^ Revnir --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/10/22 4:54:27 AM #6: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Every damn episode of Chappelle Show is literally him mocking African Americans, who have been vulnerable for 400 years. You didn't seem to care then?CE treats getting offended about current stuff like it's a six figure job, my man. Good luck lmao. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBrainbuster 07/10/22 4:56:13 AM #7: |
Slayer_22 posted... CE treats getting offended about current stuff like it's a six figure job, my man. Good luck lmao. Yeah but the lack of self-awareness fucking pisses me off. It's the fucking generation of social media, and these stupid kids thinking their opinion means anything. They take to Twitter the MOMENT they see something rude or offensive. But then they own the "Chappelles Show DVD" without a blink or a second thought of just how much that show mocked black society and black people, who are way more "in a bad place" than any other minority. Stupid kids. "Derrr let's go to his shows and protest and bitch about him coming to our University because he made a Team TERF joke -- but a joke about a white family with the last name '------'? That's GOLD Jerry, GOLD!" --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BoyOfBattle 07/10/22 4:57:35 AM #8: |
yeah i'm Team Dave on this "issue" --- DIEHARD DUBS FAN SINCE 2022. We Believe! CHEF Curry. Klay "Kray" Thompson. Johnny "KUM" "Buckets". Big Game James. we already won. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/10/22 5:04:09 AM #9: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Yeah but the lack of self-awareness fucking pisses me off.GameFAQs is mostly people in their late 20s to mid 40s. They aren't as much part of the new generation. We're all just bitter. And some like to get offended. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 07/10/22 5:11:43 AM #10: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Every damn episode of Chappelle Show is literally him mocking African Americans, who have been vulnerable for 400 years. You didn't seem to care then?He literally stopped making the show because he noticed those jokes were becoming more and more offensive "laugh at, not laugh with" types of jokes. Then he turns around and makes being anti-trans his new schtick. Dave's a hypocrite, and anyone that can't tell the parallels between his old show and his new routine is a fucking idiot. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBrainbuster 07/10/22 5:12:41 AM #11: |
A_Good_Boy posted... He literally stopped making the show because he noticed those jokes were becoming more and more offensive "laugh at, not laugh with" types of jokes. Then he turns around and makes being anti-trans his new schtick. Dave's a hypocrite, and anyone that can't tell the parallels between his old show and his new routine is a fucking idiot. Oh give me a god damn, mother fucking break *Makes $20 million bucks and multiple seasons of a show that mocks black society* *Wakes up one day* "WHOA WHOA! PUT ON THE BREAKS! THIS IS OFFENSIVE TO MY PEOPLE!" That show was offensive and mocking from Season 1, Episode 1. All of it mocks African Americans - from making fun of Prince, to making fun of Samuel L. Jackson, to making fun of Condeleeza Rice and Colin Powell and calling them "white". --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBrainbuster 07/10/22 5:15:23 AM #12: |
To clarify, yes I am calling Dave Chappelle full of shit on that whole "walking away and going to Africa" crap he pulled. After making millions of dollars and becoming a household name, suddenly he realizes the show was mocking his people? Really? You don't think the episode with a black milkman delivering milk to a white family named "------" was not LAUGHING at his people? --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBrainbuster 07/10/22 5:15:49 AM #14: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Prove me wrong, because quite frankly, from the way you come off you are saying "Jokes about Team TERF = wrong" "Jokes about racism = hilarious" --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 07/10/22 5:15:54 AM #15: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Oh give me a god damn, mother fucking breakhttps://medium.com/vulnerable-man/why-did -dave-chappelle-quit-his-show-and-walk-away-from-50-million-2f39d8b5a466 Bedard says Chappelle was also bothered by a crew member laughing at a racially-related skit that involved Chappelle being dressed in blackface, and Chappelle really was bothered by the laughter. It felt like the crew member was laughing at him, not with him, by the sound of the laugh. He started to feel like the show sometimes reinforced racial stereotypes instead of satirizing them, and he felt ashamed since some of his jokes were having an effect he did not intend. Don't argue with me, take up your remarks with the man himself. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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indica 07/10/22 5:16:02 AM #16: |
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TheBrainbuster 07/10/22 5:16:53 AM #17: |
A_Good_Boy posted... https://medium.com/vulnerable-man/why-did -dave-chappelle-quit-his-show-and-walk-away-from-50-million-2f39d8b5a466 TheBrainbuster posted... To clarify, yes I am calling Dave Chappelle full of shit on that whole "walking away and going to Africa" crap he pulled. I remember he went on Oprah and said he did not even tell his wife he was going to Africa. Bitch move. --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 07/10/22 5:19:45 AM #18: |
All I know is the dude went from being offended at the jokes he was making from an in-group perspective to turning around and making jokes from an out-group perspective and once members of that group told him his jokes were offensive he proceeded to act like a giant victim of his own behavior. Dave's a clown and an embarrassment. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeathDeathSong 07/10/22 5:22:15 AM #20: |
is tc that one kid that thinks black trans people dont exist --- * MY HEARTS GO OUT TO ALL YOU SINNERS!! * [Heaven], are you WATCHING? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 07/10/22 6:12:29 AM #24: |
Eh, Chapelle can make racial jokes because he is a racialized person. Him making money off trans jokes doesn't sit right with me because he can only ever get the second hand experience, being cis and etc. If it was just the occasional gag it would be one thing, comedy shouldn't have hard limits, but to build an entire routine out of an experience that you don't really embody seems misguided. At that point it comes off as more of an assassination than a bit. --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 07/10/22 6:18:24 AM #25: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Every damn episode of Chappelle Show is literally him mocking African Americans, who have been vulnerable for 400 years. You didn't seem to care then? Uh no. Let me, as a black man, tell you that you are comparing apples to oranges. Dave's comedy often made fun of white people just as much as it made fun of black people, and there were usually hints of social commentary and satire in there that made it easy to relate to. In many of his smarter or more clever skits, often times the butt of the joke wasn't actually black people, but rather racists and racial stereotypes. Black people weren't the butt of jokes like the racial draft. Racial stereotypes were. The whole thing that makes it funny is the absurdity of literally declaring somebody another race because of superficial attributes like knowing how to rap or watching kung-fu movies. Not "har har Tiger Woods isn't black". You kinda missed the point if that's your take on it. What Dave did not do back then was dedicate an entire special to nothing but insults to an entire community and literally pinning the death of his friend on that community as a way to guilt them for finding his comedy offensive. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 07/10/22 6:56:26 AM #26: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Comedians -must- be able to say whatever the fuck they wantAll comedians must be is funny. His more recent material has the wit of a boomer screaming Let's Go Brandon over and over. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 07/10/22 7:08:32 AM #27: |
DeathDeathSong posted... is tc that one kid that thinks black trans people dont exist i keep hearing this argument but let's be honest. if black trans people(or any non-white colored people) were shouting about their rights, you know who would give a fuck? "crickets" anyways i'm always reminded of eddie murphy who used to absolutely destroy gay people in his specials. --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kastrada 07/10/22 8:11:54 AM #28: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... Uh no. Let me, as a black man, tell you that you are comparing apples to oranges. Dave's comedy often made fun of white people just as much as it made fun of black people, and there were usually hints of social commentary and satire in there that made it easy to relate to. In many of his smarter or more clever skits, often times the butt of the joke wasn't actually black people, but rather racists and racial stereotypes. Black people weren't the butt of jokes like the racial draft. Racial stereotypes were. The whole thing that makes it funny is the absurdity of literally declaring somebody another race because of superficial attributes like knowing how to rap or watching kung-fu movies. Not "har har Tiger Woods isn't black". You kinda missed the point if that's your take on it. Literally all of this. Prime Chappelle was making jokes about everyone with nuance and social critiques about what separates us and in turn, was bringing us all together. I would have no problem if Chappelle was making trans-jokes if he was doing it the same way he mocked everyone else during his heyday. But the current Chappelle is just hammering in the same tired premise over and over again with no punchline because they are turning into rants and not jokes. Carlin did the same thing towards the end of his career save for the controversy. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/10/22 8:45:22 AM #29: |
I'll never get the "because he made fun of his own in-group and YOUOUOUOU laughed at it, that means he gets to make fun of out-groups and YOUOUOUOU cannot criticize him!" That does predicate on us having watched his stuff, right? --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FelineCyborg 07/10/22 8:47:38 AM #30: |
It's this weird logic where he squares black oppression vs trans oppression That's his entire argument. He's butthurt about Caitlyn Jenner transition being celebrated because that person is white. So he's basically using the race card to be a bigot. Basically he's turning into a hateful ignorant boomer and he's no different than white boomers being scared target is using mixed race couples in their ads or something --- "well, yeah, and a lot of minorities go to see minstrel shows, too." - PyroSpoon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 07/10/22 8:54:13 AM #31: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Calm down and laugh about stuff. Lord knows this country is so fucked up at this point (elected reality TV star, Roe v Wade gone, COVID) that we all need to. Stop taking things so seriously LMFAO shit's fucked because all we ever do is distract ourselves --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FelineCyborg 07/10/22 8:58:27 AM #32: |
The whole argument "you laughed at his jokes about black people, so that makes you the racist" argument is bizarre as well. It's not like he was shouting the n word and actively shaming the black community. The jokes on Chapelle show had nuance and weren't just him shitting on black people. It was how black culture occupied the space in a white America. There was actual irony in his skits.. That's not what he's doing with his trans jokes. There's no subtle nuance like that, he's basically just shouting bigotry at the top of his lungs with no punchline because he fell into the exact same trap white bigots fall Into where they think they are victimized and entitled to speak to a minority like this. --- "well, yeah, and a lot of minorities go to see minstrel shows, too." - PyroSpoon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 07/10/22 9:05:35 AM #33: |
DeathDeathSong posted... is tc that one kid that thinks black trans people dont existThat's FrisbeeDude iirc and I don't think tc is him His account will probably have about the same life expectancy as FrisbeeDude though --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 07/10/22 9:06:02 AM #34: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Comedians -must- be able to say whatever the fuck they want, other than calling for outright violence. That is what makes comedy so great. What about rappers? --- Fire tempers iron and temptation steels the just ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BaphometFlux 07/10/22 9:43:58 AM #35: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Comedians -must- be able to say whatever the fuck they want, other than calling for outright violence. That is what makes comedy so great. Congrats TC, this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read here and thats saying something. --- "Shisaanputa" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 07/10/22 9:51:10 AM #36: |
TheBrainbuster posted... Comedians -must- be able to say whatever the fuck they want, other than calling for outright violence. That is what makes comedy so great.The difference is that Hicks and Carlin didn't punch down. It's pretty much that simple. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Stewman_Magoo 07/10/22 10:02:38 AM #37: |
People really need to stop making Chappelle topics. The Closer sucked, easily one of his worst specials because he barely told jokes and people are hung up on the trans shit. Yes Chappelle is weird about trans people, it's just sad at this point. --- PSN Stewman_Magoo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 07/10/22 10:11:31 AM #38: |
Is there any exceptions to the "the only people who can make jokes about marginalised groups are those within the marginalised groups" rule? --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 07/10/22 10:29:40 AM #39: |
I do agree with you tc. But we live in a world now where people would rather pain shop and complain vs just not watching some or something and forget about it. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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