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oh fuck

It was kinda underwhelming considering what a wild season it was

should i start watching it

i was really into better call saul but its really bumming me out cause it takes place where my ex lives lol

DirtBasedSoap posted...

should i start watching it

i was really into better call saul but its really bumming me out cause it takes place where my ex lives lol

Its good. I like it, Granted it can be a little much on the Left wing praise and Alt right hate. Not that there's anything wrong with it. I just don't like it when shows have an agenda to cram their agenda so far down your throat you can start to feel it in your knees.

they are outspoken against the alt right aka racist sexist pieces of shit

wow thats so fucked up that theyre pushing an agenda!!!!!

Seems Dirt blocked me. Wonder what I said.

hypnox posted...

Its good. I like it, Granted it can be a little much on the Left wing praise and Alt right hate. Not that there's anything wrong with it. I just don't like it when shows have an agenda to cram their agenda so far down your throat you can start to feel it in your knees.

The show leans more left then right and there are some preachy moments but Vought, as Edgar states is the winning strategy, plays both sides. They are actively supporting and pushing a Republican into presidency, while pandering to and marketing to the left.

Really, it's whatever makes the most money, like a real company. You sell to anyone and everyone you can.

I have to say I don't really understand Solider Boy's motivation for wanting to kill Homelander aside from him just being a dick, which he is, but still. He says he himself was a spoiled rich boy screw up that never got respect from his dad no matter what he did, then goes and says he wants to kill Homelander for being a crybaby he's ashamed of because he wants a family.

Gonna watch the finale after work tonight

DirtBasedSoap posted...

should i start watching it

i was really into better call saul but its really bumming me out cause it takes place where my ex lives lol

If youre trying to avoid being bummed out I would not recommend The Boys

VampireCoyote posted...

It was kinda underwhelming considering what a wild season it was

Yeah.... they built up some very meaningful conflicts with Noir and Soldier Boy and Homelander and Soldier Boy...but the climax was a let down.

Soldier Boy is one of the most interesting characters in the show, I hope that they bring him back. Jensen Ackles killed it.

The first season was alright because it was a different kind of super hero show. It's really nothing but a CW show with more gore, though.

I still really don't understand why Butcher gave up on killing Homelander because Soldier Boy knocked Ryan away after interfering, his reasoning was flimsy at best. I don't mean to overreact but I was getting strong GOT Season 8 vibes from the finale, lots of buildup only to go nowhere.

Soldier Boy did nothing but kill nobodies and get put back on ice, which sucked becasue Jensen Ackles was steller in the role.

I hope Black Noir is still alive, he didn't get a memorial and survived losing part of his brain so maybe he'll come back, since he also got a ton of buildup only to go nowhere.

11110111011 posted...

The first season was alright because it was a different kind of super hero show. It's really nothing but a CW show with more gore, though.

Stargirl and the flash are good. Never saw arrow or the others.

idk why people knock the cw shows so much. They just have bad special fx

ForteEXE3850 posted...

I have to say I don't really understand Solider Boy's motivation for wanting to kill Homelander aside from him just being a dick, which he is, but still. He says he himself was a spoiled rich boy screw up that never got respect from his dad no matter what he did, then goes and says he wants to kill Homelander for being a crybaby he's ashamed of because he wants a family.

I think after finding out what kind of man Homelander was he decided to kill him just to uphold his deal with Butcher.

Also, generational trauma is the theme of the season.

Cruddy_horse posted...

I still really don't understand why Butcher gave up on killing Homelander because Soldier Boy knocked Ryan away after interfering, his reasoning was flimsy at best. I don't mean to overreact but I was getting strong GOT Season 8 vibes from the finale, lots of buildup only to go nowhere.

Soldier Boy did nothing but kill nobodies and get put back on ice, which sucked becasue Jensen Ackles was steller in the role.

I hope Black Noir is still alive, he didn't get a memorial and survived losing part of his brain so maybe he'll come back, since he also got a ton of buildup only to go nowhere.

given that homelander went back and grabbed his helmet, doubt he is alive still

but yeah, butcher would do pretty much anything for Ryan, since he's Becca's son. even if that means allying with homelander temporarily

but holy shit, why did they even need all this muscle to take homelander on? Maeve looked like she could solo his ass just fine

however, the fact that grace ended up with soldier boys body in the end, even if he is going back on ice, probably doesn't bode well for anyone. I could see her in season 4 coming up with some sort of weapon that removes people's superpowers based directly off of him

and I am genuinely surprised that they didn't go the most obvious route of giving Hughie and butcher the full super juice.

and where tf did a train go, i get that the deep wasn't around in the tower since he was out doing his thing, but atrain just fully vanished

Adam_Savage posted...

and where tf did a train go, i get that the deep wasn't around in the tower since he was out doing his thing, but atrain just fully vanished

He was probably with his brother. There was a whole scene where his brother was like "Wtf. I didn't want you to kill Blue Hawk. You're so selfish. Everything is always about you" (basically) and his brother fell out of his wheelchair or whatever. So he was dealing with that would be my guess.

I just watched all three seasons this week (and finished the last episode 10 minutes ago).

I get Ryan is an impressionable kid and wants his family, but him siding with Homelander and then having that evil smirk at the end (after Homelander zapped that Starlight stans head off) just spits in the face of his mum.

FinalFantasy2389 posted...

He was probably with his brother. There was a whole scene where his brother was like "Wtf. I didn't want you to kill Blue Hawk. You're so selfish. Everything is always about you" (basically) and his brother fell out of his wheelchair or whatever. So he was dealing with that would be my guess.

that happened before homelander even met with noir in the tower, a train was there after the brother scene

Despite the plot not going the exact way I wanted, Soldier Boy coming in and chadding all over Homelander made it worth it.

They can't kill off Homelander, because then what? Head popping lady? No. She's dumb. And not scary at all. I don't care how many heads she can pop.

Imo, they should just perma-V the Boys, get over the anti-Supe shit until they accomplish their mission. And goddammit if they martyr Butcher, I'm gonna be pissed. But they'll probably just keep Hughie and Annie in the end because they're the top projected relatable social demo. I don't like them. Hughie is OK, but Annie just isn't as cool as Maeve is or Kimiko to me.

And the whole beef with MM vs Butcher is fucking stupid and he's just getting in the way. I really don't understand half their moral problems anyway. It made sense in season 1, now it's just like a dynamic dysfunctional group. Like just fuck off and team up and cut the bullshit. It makes them seem like a bunch of weak and whiny drama queens I prefer them to be more macho like in The Expendables.

Really sucks that Black Noir did practically nothing all season/series, I was hoping he'd get a big moment in the finale

SilentSeph posted...

Really sucks that Black Noir did practically nothing all season/series, I was hoping he'd get a big moment in the finale

Yeah, they totally misused him. He could've been a super fast combo knife ninja badass who could give Homelander a run for his money who died valiantly at the end.

But no, they went for the conflicted old friend, lean in and gimme hug and oopsie.. pulled out your still beating heart.

Straughan posted...

They can't kill off Homelander, because then what? Head popping lady? No. She's dumb. And not scary at all. I don't care how many heads she can pop.

i don't actually understand her position in the show either

why is hughie terrified of her? he isnt like that at all with like, any other supe. aside from like, atrain ig. hell, she actually likes hughie, anyways

i get that she's making plays in the government, but

like can she just kill homelander with her mind? she seems fairly scared by him if so. and she gave her kid full v, whatever happened with that, I figured it would have come into play but instead...we just got her giving her kid v and nothing else

I'm guessing she knows something bad would happen to her if she did kill Homelander. There's probably an ultimate supe in the shadows at Vought. As much as I like Giancarlo (Stan Edgar) since he looks like my favorite grandpa who passed away, I wouldn't be surprised if he's some ultimate super villain that's been hiding the whole time.

Adam_Savage posted...

that happened before homelander even met with noir in the tower, a train was there after the brother scene

Oh yeah. You're right. Cause he was there when he showed Noir's helmet. Hmm.

Adam_Savage posted...

but holy shit, why did they even need all this muscle to take homelander on? Maeve looked like she could solo his ass just fine

I feel like this is just one of those super hero power level consistency issues, that The Boys doesn't run into often, but it did happen here.

Homelander has been built up to be so strong, that if he went out of control, nobody anywhere could stop him from killing everyone, including other supes.

But now we've had 2 fights this season where he was injured by a small group of other supes, one even without Solider Boy.

Maeve's behavior in the past has suggested as strong as she is, she stood no chance against Homelander, which is why she doesn't do anything about him tormenting her, but it's shown here, even if she couldn't beat him, she could significantly hinder him even without Soldier Boy.

Straughan posted...

I'm guessing she knows something bad would happen to her if she did kill Homelander. There's probably an ultimate supe in the shadows at Vought. As much as I like Giancarlo (Stan Edgar) since he looks like my favorite grandpa who passed away, I wouldn't be surprised if he's some ultimate super villain that's been hiding the whole time.

I hope Stan eventually returns as a mastermind behind the scenes, but I think giving him super powers ruins the point of his character. I think Stan Edgar shines as someone who's exceedingly powerful, confident, intelligent, and feared without the need of super powers. He's the opposite of Homelander, who's super powers are everything to him and the only reason anyone does anything he says or cares about him. That fact that Homelander can't make Stan be afraid of him despite Stan not having powers is what makes their dynamic great. If it was revealed that the only reason Stan stands up to Homelander is because he was actually physically stronger the him, I think that would be disappointing.

ForteEXE3850 posted...

Maeve's behavior in the past has suggested as strong as she is, she stood no chance against Homelander, which is why she doesn't do anything about him tormenting her

i think that had more to do with him blackmailing her with her girlfriends safety than anything else, and her not being absolutely certain she could win

really all it's looking like is homelander can fly, shoot laser, and has super strength. tbh i think fuckin atrain could take him at this point

aside from his battles with the boys, we really haven't seen him do a single thing to justify the fear everyone has for him, its literally just that no one has really fought back. and the few times they did?

he lost.

ForteEXE3850 posted...

I hope Stan eventually returns as a mastermind behind the scenes, but I think giving him super powers ruins the point of his character. I think Stan Edgar shines as someone who's exceedingly powerful, confident, intelligent, and feared without the need of super powers. He's the opposite of Homelander, who's super powers are everything to him and the only reason anyone does anything he says or cares about him.

correct

if Stan has powers, he wouldn't have used his "daughter" as an assassin. seems like he would just have done them himself, given that it seems to be a fairly well kept secret that she is a supe

or manufacture homelander as a soldier boy replacement