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Gobstoppers12
07/05/22 2:15:28 AM
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Between the red ring of death and its tendency to chainsaw discs to death at random, has there ever been a mainstream, popular console with a more terrible design?

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A_Good_Boy
07/05/22 2:19:21 AM
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The PS3. Sony somehow managed to trick gamers into supporting it through an entire console generation despite the fact the PS3 had no games.

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ToadallyAwesome
07/05/22 2:26:22 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
The PS3. Sony somehow managed to trick gamers into supporting it through an entire console generation despite the fact the PS3 had no games.

Still the only way To play a huge chunk of Metal Gear games though.

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AsucaHayashi
07/05/22 2:26:37 AM
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Imagine being so corrupt you rush out a busted product to cash in on increased market share and then preying on sunk cost fallacy to keep the product going

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ViewtifulJoe
07/05/22 2:28:40 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
The PS3. Sony somehow managed to trick gamers into supporting it through an entire console generation despite the fact the PS3 had no games.
And then pulled the same trick with the two following consoles.

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Guide
07/05/22 2:32:26 AM
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I got lucky and my 360 never had problems. I still have it, actually.

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Gobstoppers12
07/05/22 3:27:06 AM
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Guide posted...
I got lucky and my 360 never had problems. I still have it, actually.
Mine was a nightmare. Red ring four times, and chainsaw'd three of my games.

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Gobstoppers12
07/05/22 3:45:33 AM
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Or it just happened whenever it felt like, according to research. From the Wikipedia article on "Xbox 360 technical problems:"

Prompted by consumer reaction to its February 2007 report, Kassa performed several tests with Xbox 360 units from consumers who claimed their Xbox had the problem. Kassa stabilized these consoles and positioned them at a location remote from contact by anyone. The results of the laboratory conditions test revealed that one of the nine tested Xbox 360 units had spontaneously scratched a disc after five hours of gaming. The consoles were also tested standing upright, and the test revealed that three of the nine tested Xbox 360s significantly scratched discs.


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Gobstoppers12
07/05/22 3:49:27 AM
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As far as I know, it's still the only way to play MGS4

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Joelypoely
07/05/22 3:52:10 AM
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Guide posted...
I got lucky and my 360 never had problems. I still have it, actually.

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g0ldie
07/05/22 3:52:51 AM
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even though it didn't happen as often, iirc, earlier versions of the PS3 also had a bunch of technical issues - Yellow Light of Death

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DrizztLink
07/05/22 3:55:28 AM
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I had one that lasted me all through high school and started needing a trickstart at around 19.

Like, it wouldn't work unless I toggled the input on the video output.

Got one of the ones that looks like a One right at the end of the console cycle, that's still alive and I gave it to a buddy after getting my XSX.

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Guide
07/05/22 4:12:11 AM
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I am forever grateful that most have been ported. I was legitimately gonna buy a PS3 just for Journey.

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MabusIncarnate
07/05/22 4:42:31 AM
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I went through 5 total 360s, my last one, elite or whatever the one was with the bigger HD died a couple years ago and never bothered replacing it.

The failure rates were ridiculous, but getting repairs/replacements once the problem was known was pretty painless.

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Gobstoppers12
07/05/22 5:08:40 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
The failure rates were ridiculous, but getting repairs/replacements once the problem was known was pretty painless.
Yeah, that's something I will say in their favor. Even though we red ringed four times, we got it fixed for free every time--and the third time, they gave us a free controller (which was sixty bucks at the time) and the fourth time they sent us some Forza game for free as compensation for the repeated failures.

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Foppe
07/05/22 5:22:41 AM
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The first versions of PS1 had a bad laser that loved to skip fmv.

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Chicken
07/05/22 5:23:48 AM
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Switch joycons

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pfh1001
07/05/22 6:08:52 AM
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The original version of the PS2 broke constantly-- the laser would get stuck & not read disks. Every person I knew that had one ran into this error, many of us had it happen multiple times. There was even a class action lawsuit.
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Mad-Dogg
07/05/22 6:12:27 AM
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Foppe posted...
The first versions of PS1 had a bad laser that loved to skip fmv.
Hell the piece that holds and spins the disc broke out of two og PS1 models I had in the 90s. Thing was made out of cheap plastic and a rubber band, lol.

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Fony
07/05/22 6:16:25 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Between the red ring of death and its tendency to chainsaw discs to death at random, has there ever been a mainstream, popular console with a more terrible design?

Everyone I know who had the PS2 had several stacked up like pizza boxes. PS1 was lucky to last over a year too. Do people pretend this was not the case?

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UnholyMudcrab
07/05/22 6:16:35 AM
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I didn't buy a 360 until they had pretty much worked the RRoD out, so I never had one of those errors. I did eventually get a different non-RRoD kind of error, which I never was able to figure out the cause of, but I could "fix" it by wrapping the console in towels.

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Guide
07/05/22 6:25:20 AM
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Fony posted...
Everyone I know who had the PS2 had several stacked up like pizza boxes. PS1 was lucky to last over a year too. Do people pretend this was not the case?

Not in my experience. My cousin had his ps1 until ps2 came out, and he had that until ps3. I say cousin, but we lived close, so we spent as much time at each other's houses as we did our own.

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Solid Sonic
07/05/22 6:26:28 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
The PS3. Sony somehow managed to trick gamers into supporting it through an entire console generation despite the fact the PS3 had no games.

I remember when saying this would equate a trolling violation.

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Fony
07/05/22 7:19:18 AM
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Guide posted...
Not in my experience. My cousin had his ps1 until ps2 came out, and he had that until ps3. I say cousin, but we lived close, so we spent as much time at each other's houses as we did our own.

Class action lawsuits and piles of trade ins at gamestop override one person's experience, but appreciate the share.

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The_Popo
07/05/22 7:24:41 AM
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Nothing will top 350, but I think theres a decent case for the NES somewhere high up the list. Due to the design for inserting cartridges, the connecting pins inside would eventually get bent, resulting in loss spending hundreds of hours taking the games out and making up home remedies like blowing into the carts in hopes of the game finally working.

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07/05/22 7:25:10 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
The PS3. Sony somehow managed to trick gamers into supporting it through an entire console generation despite the fact the PS3 had no games.
Acting like the PS3 was the Vita or some shit.
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Sufferedphoneix
07/05/22 7:25:28 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
As far as I know, it's still the only way to play MGS4

Ps now.ps3 is the only way to play a copy you own though

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MabusIncarnate
07/05/22 7:26:45 AM
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I remember the Playstation "won't play blue disks" issue also, happened to mine but only went through one console.

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MrDrMan
07/05/22 7:30:44 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
The PS3. Sony somehow managed to trick gamers into supporting it through an entire console generation despite the fact the PS3 had no games.

Last of Us, Resistance Fall of Man, Skyrim, GTAV, Dark Souls, Dragons Dogma. Shit PS3 had all the games were playing today and then some.

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Sufferedphoneix
07/05/22 7:31:37 AM
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Shit I only went through 3. I only paid for one of the replacements. Second one my brother gave me cause he decided to upgrade to a newer model. Once I got the model that looked like the Xbox one I was golden it still works

Never got red ring though. Disc reader went out on the first. I could still play my digital games though. Can't remember what happened to the second.

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CinderLock
07/05/22 7:33:42 AM
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Dreamcast had some issues.

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Cheater87
07/05/22 7:51:48 AM
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The original Xbox had you pay for XBL.

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lilORANG
07/05/22 7:56:46 AM
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The pre-release Xbox One was shaking up to be shit before they backtracked all their terrible ideas.

That was a fun era of gaming tho. "Ps4 looks great" while MS was getting pissed that people were calling their console the Xbone and asking Amazon to remove polls that showed people overwhelmingly wanted PS4 over Xbone.

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Lvaneede
07/05/22 7:59:20 AM
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Switch, if you count the Joy Con issues

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Kitt
07/05/22 8:04:49 AM
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My brother had two 360s because the first one RROD'd. That was funny.

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rexcrk
07/05/22 8:07:11 AM
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I guess I lucked out. Never got the red ring of death on my older model or the R2-D2 one, nor did I ever get that disc error.

Though in fairness, I never played the hell out of them either. Not sure if playtime is an actual factor or not lol.


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Mad-Dogg
07/05/22 8:11:49 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
The original Xbox had you pay for XBL.
It also had dlc too. I had to pay for those extra return to castle wolfenstein maps and unreal championship 2 characters/maps. (That I still can't redownload to this day on the Xbox one s since I lost my unreal championship 2 data years ago).

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crayola555
07/05/22 8:13:24 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
The PS3. Sony somehow managed to trick gamers into supporting it through an entire console generation despite the fact the PS3 had no games.

What? The PS3 had some awesome games and ip's, a few of them went on to becoming franchises. That system was way better than the shitbox 360

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Cheetaluv
07/05/22 8:14:15 AM
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ps2

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Zaltera
07/05/22 8:32:55 AM
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Fony posted...
Everyone I know who had the PS2 had several stacked up like pizza boxes.

I still think this is how it ended up selling more than 150,000,000 units.

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MabusIncarnate
07/05/22 8:37:14 AM
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I think when Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 came out, I ran through 3 on those games alone I played online so much. Apparently the motherboard overheated and started to bow, playing 12-16 hours a day isn't giving it much time to cool down.

It's funny how MS customer service evolved from a 20 minute thing to get your console repaired, to literally a 2 minute conversation "My 360 is bro..." "Name, address, etc." and it was replaced.

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Fony
07/05/22 8:53:51 AM
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Zaltera posted...
I still think this is how it ended up selling more than 150,000,000 units.

It is. People just re-bought them all the time. I did it, my friends did it, most people with issues did it. Sony refused to fix them for free, what are you gonna do? It had too many exclusive games. Same with the disc holder on PS1. These are defnitely the most popular consoles to be pieces of shit hardware.

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Zaltera
07/05/22 8:57:17 AM
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I had three of them myself.

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Collat
07/05/22 9:00:07 AM
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Was it the slim ps2s that kept failing? I got a fat og one that still runs 20 years later.

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