Current Events > Anyone else think PC gaming is more trouble than it's worth?

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Like on one hand I can definitely see the advantages of PC gaming vs. console gaming. But when people talk about how great PC gaming is I feel like it paints a picture that everything will go perfectly, ignoring the fact that you have to give up a lot of conveniences you get from console gaming.

In my experience from trying to get into PC gaming, there are some games that dont work that well, some games that cant be played with controller and require keyboard + mouse, internet speed seems way slower, and overall is more expensive to maintain if something goes wrong and you have to replace some parts. Compare that to a console where you just plug in and play, everything generally works the way its supposed to without needing any extra setup. Ive always just felt at home with console gaming, while trying to get into PC gaming feels like more of a chore than actually having fun.

hulkhogan1 posted...

games that require keyboard + mouse, internet speed is way slower

wat

Nah.

Proof that tc doesnt pc game.

PC is only good for strategy games or competitive shooters

Slower internet speeds?

hulkhogan1 posted...

and overall is more expensive to maintain if something goes wrong and you have to replace some parts

Still cheaper than consoles

Console gaming is too bothersome because of the subscription fees required to play online, just for the online experience to be much much laggier in addition to console's native input delay

hulkhogan1 posted...

games that require keyboard + mouse

Literally every game that exists on console can be played with a controller on PC.

hulkhogan1 posted...

internet speed is way slower

...what?

hulkhogan1 posted...

and overall is more expensive to maintain if something goes wrong and you have to replace some parts.

If something goes wrong on console, your options are send it in for repair or buy a new one.

You don't have slower internet speeds if you have a KILLER NIC card, and download all the RAM you can on your PC.

I built one in 2011 and never looked back. I'm convinced most people who bitch about pc gaming have never pc gamed and are hopelessly computer illiterate.

Real PC gaming is spending 1500+ on your rig, and primarily playing games that would run on toasters.

hulkhogan1 posted...

everything generally works the way its supposed to without needing any extra setup.

What? Cyberpunk, bethseda games on playstation, etc. There's a ton of games with issues that just break games.

hulkhogan1 posted...

But when people talk about how great PC gaming is I feel like it paints a picture that everything will go perfectly, ignoring the fact that you have to give up a lot of conveniences you get from console gaming.

I've never seen anyone say its perfect. It just has the potential to be a lot better quality than console gaming. I think the problem is that its intimidating. People dont know how to build a PC despite it being easier than it looks.

hulkhogan1 posted...

In my experience from trying to get into PC gaming, there are some games that dont work that well, games that require keyboard + mouse, internet speed seems way slower, and overall is more expensive to maintain if something goes wrong and you have to replace some parts.

The same games that took me hours to download on Playstation takes me 20 mins or so on PC so idk what you mean by internet times are better. Crossplay games usually have higher ping for console players from what i've seen.

Also, i play most of my games on controller. The only game that I have to use KBM on is RTS games or Baldurs gate.

I think there's an advantage in some areas for console gaming but your reasons arent it

Looked into the "internet speed" thing just to give hard numbers anyway

PS5 and Xbox Series X both have 1 gigabit ethernet ports. Can't find a number for Switch but it's Nintendo and the regular switch doesn't even have an ethernet port so I'm just gonna ignore that lol. Any modern mobo today, even budget ones, have at least 1 Gb, some even 2.5. So that's definitely a perception error on your end

PC does sacrifice some plug and play convenience, but is far more modular and has a vast library of games to accommodate it. I can play a game from 1987 or 2017.

MacadamianNut3 posted...

Looked into the "internet speed" thing just to give hard numbers anyway

PS5 and Xbox Series X both have 1 gigabit ethernet ports. Can't find a number for Switch but it's Nintendo and the regular switch doesn't even have an ethernet port so I'm just gonna ignore that lol. Any modern mobo today, even budget ones, have at least 1 Gb, some even 2.5. So that's definitely a perception error on your end

Plus if we wanna limit it to download speed of games, I get way higher speeds downloading from Steam than I do from PSN or Xbox.

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/6yjca6/i_think_hulk_hogan_is_trapped_inside_this_computer/

Sometimes PC gaming is super inconvenient. Especially when trying to run older games. But newer games run super smooth on my machine

DarthAragorn posted...

Plus if we wanna limit it to download speed of games, I get way higher speeds downloading from Steam than I do from PSN or Xbox.

Then I dont know what Im doing wrong. I typically get several hundred mbps on Xbox downloads but only a couple MBs at most when trying to download anything on steam.

hulkhogan1 posted...

Then I dont know what Im doing wrong. I typically get several hundred mbps on Xbox downloads but only a couple MBs at most when trying to download anything on steam.

I can only assume you're doing them both wi-fi?

hulkhogan1 posted...

Then I dont know what Im doing wrong. I typically get several hundred mbps on Xbox downloads but only a couple MBs at most when trying to download anything on steam.

Well first of all if one is showing Mbps and the other is showing MB/s those are different units of measurement. I think 8 Mbps is 1 MB/s.

Also wifi vs Ethernet makes a difference, I've got both wired via Ethernet to the same switch.

Its ok

It's annoying and convenient in different ways, as is console gaming. Just depends on which set of hassles you'd prefer to have to deal with.

Plus the louder, more elitist members of that community are every bit as obnoxious as the console fanboys they meme on. So again, just depends on which set of assholes you'd rather be associated with.

End of the day, play what you like, fuck the haters.

is there going to be more headaches over consoles? yes. is it going to be "more trouble than its worth"? imo, no. even with the occational headaches everything else surrounding and included in the platform makes up for it. of course your mileage may vary depending on circumstances.

DarthAragorn posted...

Well first of all if one is showing Mbps and the other is showing MB/s those are different units of measurement. I think 8 Mbps is 1 MB/s.

Also wifi vs Ethernet makes a difference, I've got both wired via Ethernet to the same switch.

All I know is it takes way longer for me to download anything on steam compared to console. Also I live upstairs in a house where the router is downstairs and far away, so unfortunately wired connection is not an option for me.

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I mean current PCs can't run some older games too.

hulkhogan1 posted...

Then I dont know what Im doing wrong. I typically get several hundred mbps on Xbox downloads but only a couple MBs at most when trying to download anything on steam.

400 megabits = 50 megabytes

And Steam has the option of picking a different download location if the default server is slow. Try a different server to see if you get better results.

hulkhogan1 posted...

All I know is it takes way longer for me to download anything on steam compared to console. Also I live upstairs in a house where the router is downstairs and far away, so unfortunately wired connection is not an option for me.

Well then that's why your download speeds are slow. Not because of any inherent problem with PC.

Regardless, have you considered either moving the router or running an ethernet line through the walls?

HovaRex posted...

Real PC gaming is spending 1500+ on your rig, and primarily playing games that would run on toasters.

LOL

Pretty much.

PC gamers are just hipsters.

1500 is just the cost of the video card

No one has to deal with IRQ's like the 80's and 90's

Dakimakura posted...

1500 is just the cost of the video card

You can get a good card for like 600 now.

1500 would get you top of the line though.

I own hundreds of games on my PC have it hooked up to a 55 in CX and can play the oldest and newest games with no problem. Feels great

You also have shitty internet if you think Steam is slow cause I can download a 80 gig game in minutes

I4NRulez posted...

You can get a good card for like 600 now.

3060s are under 400 and more than enough to beat console in quality and framerate

I4NRulez posted...

You can get a good card for like 600 now.

1500 would get you top of the line though.

Bingo. The people who think they need to start with a bottleneck build are really just gatekeeping PC.

pokedude900 posted...

Well then that's why your download speeds are slow. Not because of any inherent problem with PC.

Then how do you explain getting significantly faster download speeds on Xbox? Like anything that takes only a couple minutes to download there takes like an hour to download on steam, and that assuming its actually a consistent download because there are times where steam just randomly stops the download all together.

Regardless, have you considered either moving the router or running an ethernet line through the walls?

My roommate pays for our WiFi and relies on it being close by because she works downstairs. So again, not an option.

hulkhogan1 posted...

Then how do you explain getting significantly faster download speeds on Xbox? Like anything that takes only a couple minutes to download there takes like an hour to download on steam, and that assuming its actually a consistent download because there are times where steam just randomly stops the download all together.

Assuming you're not confusing megabits with megabytes as previously suggested, there are several factors that can result in different speeds for wi-fi. The PC's wireless card could be shit, you might be connecting to the wrong band, the Xbox might be in a position that gets a better singal.

hulkhogan1 posted...

My roommate pays for our WiFi and relies on it being close by because she works downstairs. So again, not an option.

How are you both so incompetent with this? Use a fucking ethernet connection and it literally won't matter how far away you are.

pokedude900 posted...

Assuming you're not confusing megabits with megabytes as previously suggested, there are several factors that can result in different speeds for wi-fi. The PC's wireless card could be shit, you might be connecting to the wrong band, the Xbox might be in a position that gets a better singal.

My Xbox and PC are in the same area so I dont see why it would matter that much. I guess I havent paid much attention to the wireless card so maybe that could be the issue.

How are you both so incompetent with this? Use a fucking ethernet connection and it literally won't matter how far away you are.

Ive literally tried running a long Ethernet cord down the stairs and all the way to the router so I could get a wired connection and my roommates got mad at me for running a long cord through the house that was in the way and easy to trip over so I had to take it away. So once again, thats unfortunately not a valid option for me.

So you either run it through the wall like you would when installing a power outlet, or you secure it to the wall so it doesn't slide around on the stairs.

pokedude900 posted...

So you either run it through the wall like you would when installing a power outlet, or you secure it to the wall so it doesn't slide around on the stairs.

The fact that I have to do all that work just for something simple just proves my point that PC gaming is more trouble than its worth.

I don't know why non-PC gamers act like we have to do an interpretive dance, bake a fondue, and then solve theoretical physics problems before we play a game.

I turn on my pc, I start my game and I play. It's not any more complicated than when I played on consoles

Same, TC. Ive tried, but its just for me.

One of the biggest things for me when I want to game is being able to kick back in my comfy chair and play on my nice big TV. Cant do that on my computer which is located in a different room (sO jUsT mOvE iT, unfortunately I just dont have the room in my apartment to do so).

I also like the convenience of consoles. Its nice being able to turn on the console and just play the damn video game. The majority of times Ive attempted to play a game on PC, theres always been some stupid thing that made it a chore (whether it was trying to make it controller compatible, the game just not running properly, etc. etc.)

I know the cool kids here are going to either downplay my complaints, accuse me of lying, or some other kind of nonsense but I know what Ive experienced and so far nothing has convinced me that PC > consoles for gaming.

no

rexcrk posted...

Same, TC. Ive tried, but its just for me.

One of the biggest things for me when I want to game is being able to kick back in my comfy chair and play on my nice big TV. Cant do that on my computer which is located in a different room (sO jUsT mOvE iT, unfortunately I just dont have the room in my apartment to do so).

I also like the convenience of consoles. Its nice being able to turn on the console and just play the damn video game. The majority of times Ive attempted to play a game on PC, theres always been some stupid thing that made it a chore (whether it was trying to make it controller compatible, the game just not running properly, etc. etc.)

I know the cool kids here are going to either downplay my complaints, accuse me of lying, or some other kind of nonsense but I know what Ive experienced and so far nothing has convinced me that PC > consoles for gaming.

It's a you thing. The vast majority of the time I can just launch a game and it works fine.

hulkhogan1 posted...

The fact that I have to do all that work just for something simple just proves my point that PC gaming is more trouble than its worth.

Setting up a PC and a Console is the exact same for Wifi vs Cable.

Your PC might have a shit wifi card or you were downloading something at the same time.

No, not in the slightest.

hulkhogan1 posted...

My roommate pays for our WiFi and relies on it being close by because she works downstairs. So again, not an option.

Buy a wifi extender. My router is downstairs in my living room behind my TV. I'm currently upstairs in my office with my gaming PC and 4 other things directly connected to a network switch connected to a wifi extender. $70 (because it's a wifi 6 extender) + $15 for the network switch for more than just PC gaming. Or the significantly cheaper option is a powerline adapter like someone else said. MOCA adapters are a third option but they are the most expensive of these three options.

These "problems" aren't really hard problems to solve

Speedtest from just now on this desktop on a 200/200 Fios plan
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