Current Events > Biden's calling for the removal of the filibuster to codify RvW

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pNaught
06/30/22 11:09:16 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/30/politics/biden-abortion-rights-filibuster/index.html

Too bad Manchin and Simena will never be on board.
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Questionmarktarius
06/30/22 11:11:07 AM
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Better answer:
Insist any filibuster is done all Jimmy Stewart style, instead of merely taking a roll-call and giving up.
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Were_Wyrm
06/30/22 11:20:11 AM
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That's good and all but one of the the shithole states will challenge it and the supreme court will declare the law unconstitutional

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K181
06/30/22 11:21:30 AM
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pNaught posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/30/politics/biden-abortion-rights-filibuster/index.html

Too bad Manchin and Simena will never be on board.

But it keeps it on the table for 2023 if the Dems pick up a seat or two in the Senate. World of difference motivating their base with a goal of 52ish Senate seats versus an impossible 60 seat mountain to climb.

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K181
06/30/22 11:23:35 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
That's good and all but one of the the shithole states will challenge it and the supreme court will declare the law unconstitutional

That was my initial reaction, but congress can actually specifically exclude the judiciary from having a say on some matters through a process known as judicial stripping.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurisdiction_stripping

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Solar_Crimson
06/30/22 11:32:33 AM
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The GOP is going to get rid of the filibuster the instant they take the Senate, so may well nuke it now and do what they can while they can.

They won't because of Manchin and Sinema, but still.

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K181
06/30/22 11:56:42 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
The GOP is going to get rid of the filibuster the instant they take the Senate, so may well nuke it now and do what they can while they can.

They won't because of Manchin and Sinema, but still.

The GOP is too afraid of when they're out of power, as if they kill the filibuster and the Dems ever take back power then the Dems will pass sweeping reforms without issue that'd severely hamper GOP electioneering efforts.

They benefit more with the filibuster when out of power than are hampered by it when in power.

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s0nicfan
06/30/22 11:59:45 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
The GOP is going to get rid of the filibuster the instant they take the Senate, so may well nuke it now and do what they can while they can.

They won't because of Manchin and Sinema, but still.

The only time the GOP removed any kind of filibuster was for Supreme Court nominations, which McConnell said he would do when Obama was President as direct retaliation for democrats removing the filibuster on lower court appointments.

The idea that Democrats need to remove it because in the future Republicans might remove it isn't actually a good argument for removing it and it's not based in reality.

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