Board 8 > 90s Nickelodeon Mafia Topic 5 slime time live

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Kirby321 posted...

BCT, have you been keeping up with the game at all? Ben, Sheep, and I (and I believe Lea as well) clearly mentioned our intent to lynch you tomorrow. Why are you acting so defensively all of a sudden?

Can you read? Of course I've kept up with the game.

I get defensive when my name is brought up for a mislynch. This is why my last game four years ago ended disastrously. Excuse me for wanting to help lynch scum and getting angered that scum is trying to lynch me instead.

Like I thought Corrik was scum for pushing my buttons back then, Kirby's doing the same thing. Corrik was scum in that game.

Your logic isn't there at all because instead of lynching clear scum you're "going with your gut." Yeah... right.

Let's walk through this again, then.

If we lynch Death today, we get scum. Awesome! But it's still MyLo, and we know the roleblocker is still alive, so Ben is likely dead and Sbell won't have a scan.

We then go into next day and lynch you. If you're town, we lose. If you're scum, we either win or the game goes on.

We know Death isn't the roleblocker. If the roleblocker dies today, Sbell can get a scan, or Ben will be kept alive. Scum can't kill Ben and deny Sbell a scan if the roleblocker dies today.

We suspect you of being scum. If we're right, there's a chance you are the roleblocker, affording either an extra scan (via Sbell) or an extra town voice in the form of Ben.

If we're wrong, we were going to lose the game tomorrow anyway.

We don't lose anything (that we wouldn't have lost anyway, at least) from lynching you early unless someone presents a convincing argument to prioritize lynching somebody else over you (besides Death). But that argument hasn't popped up yet; nearly everybody is set on lynching you tomorrow if we lynch Death today.

Ngl I do feel like an ass for doing this during the last 1.5 hours of the day, but the thought never crossed my mind until then. I do think this is a gamble worth taking, but if anyone else disagrees, I will kindly back off.

The goal of this game is to lynch scum. SBell caught Death in a lie. Death heavily implied he was scum as he hammered Tidus, and Tidus somehow turned out to be town. We couldn't have someone who's more blatantly scum than Death. And yet, suddenly, you have his back because "your gut told you to."

Trying to save clear scum is not a good look and certainly doesn't make you look like you have town's interest in mind. Dead town chat is probably going "WTF KIRBY" right now. Probably because they're as surprised as me that you're basically confessing to being scumbuddies with Death. That's the REAL reason you changed your vote.

Doesn't matter which of Kirby or Death we go for at this point. I'm fine lynching either. It's pretty blatant at this point.

Kirby321 posted...

We suspect you of being scum. If we're right, there's a chance you are the roleblocker, affording either an extra scan (via Sbell) or an extra town voice in the form of Ben.

Same goes for you. YOU could be the roleblocker just the same. Especially since you're trying to protect Death, whose role is probably of great use to the scum team.

At any rate, I gotta go pick my car up from the shop. Shall I leave my vote on Kirby or are we staying on Death? Again, doesn't matter which of the two it is. Both are clear scum.

You know what, I don't have time for this.

##unvote
##Vote:Death

Let's just lynch the most blatant scum and we can talk this out tomorrow, Kirby. I doubt either of us will be night killed if we're arguing since scum can easily mislynch me.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

And yet, suddenly, you have his back because "your gut told you to."

Dude, you are definitely not reading my posts if you're accusing me of going with my gut all of a sudden.

You have no issues with Ben or Sheep saying you're scum. You're only kicking up a fuss because I voted for you.

Your argument that I'm trying to save Death is baseless. You think I wouldn't have tried harder to save him earlier in the day if I didn't really want him to die? Why would I try so hard now when virtually no one is even here right now lol

Really, I just had an epiphany and figured it would be a good idea. But I'm also notorious for having stupid ideas. I'd appreciate if you could give me a decent argument to my logic, or were you banking on silencing Ben and trying to manipulate the rest of us into somehow not voting you tomorrow? Because I don't understand why you're suddenly putting up a fight now when the entire day has been spent with us parading around you and Death as scum.

Kirby, I appreciate the sentiment, but do remember that even if we lynched a scum BCT today you won't need my voice on the day you lynch death (tomorrow)

And no I don't think there is any benefit to a scum Kirby speaking up about this plan right now and yeah only puts him in the hotseat if BCT was town. Also dont think there's 5 scum because where are they

I thought day would be over by now so i agreed to a "work" meeting this evening that has already started so I while i would like to use this time to discuss I cant really

I am also working with a 4 man theory.

kirby while I like your kill bct idea, you aren't guaranteeing me a scan with the move. And if bct is infact town... let's cut our losses, take the guaranteed scum and what will be will be

we played this game last day and lynch towndus. no mas.

Since I have never played with BCT, I've been hesitating to say whether I read their postings as fake or genuine. Because that can entirely depend on the individual sometimes.

But my initial reaction to the whole offensive against Kirby on this page is that it reads as incredibly fake. Especially the part about Death and Kirby now having equal scumminess. So there ya go.

The rest is up to you now. I believe in you. Until the moment I arrive at dead town chat where i will surely berate each and every one of you for your awful reads :)

Understandable. Those are fair points, and perhaps there isn't much benefit to lynching BCT today over Death after all, as I had thought.

Might as well let the day end on its own in case anybody else wants to chime in, since there's only 30 minutes left.

votals OH SNAP!

[4] Death-(Lea,) (BCT), Ulti, (Kirby), lea Ben, (Kirby), BCT
[1] BCT- Kirby
[0]Kirby
[0] Lea- (BCT)

votals
[4] Death-(Lea,) (BCT), Ulti, (Kirby), lea Ben, (Kirby), BCT
[1] BCT- Kirby
[0]Kirby
[0] Lea- (BCT)

It looks as if Death was planning on being canceled all day... why did they wait so long I am not sure??? Well anyways this show was about Amanda Bynes and her All That Rip off. It had its moments but it is now here and gone!

DEATH WAS:
The Amanda Show
2000-2002

The Amanda show Scum Vanilla vop

The Amanda show was a spin off of ALL THAT! Amanda Bynes stared in her own tv show that was alot like ALL THAT being based around skits with common themes of Judge Trudy, Totally Kyle, Prank Call, and The Girls Room.

As vanilla cop you are anything but normal and want to know who is wacky too. Pick somone each night to see if they are Wacky or just normal.

The watch list

1.Sheep
2.Ulti
3.kirby
4.Ben
5. BlueCrystalTear
6.Red
7. Sbell
8. Lea

cancelled shows
1. HAN-Ahh Real Monsters-Town Doctor/scarer
2. Mzero- Hey Arnold- Town Mayor
3.Chang- Doug Town Lie detector
4. DYL- Rocket Power Scum Redirector
5. Plum- Jimmy Nutron Scum Evil inventor
6. IGCD- Legends of the hidden temple- town theif
7. Tudus- Clarissa Exsplains it all- Town Vanilla
8. Death- The Amanda Show- Scum Vanilla Cop

IT IS NOW NIGHT NO TALKING
Day Starts Tomorrow Night 7/1 at 8Pm Est.

1.Sheep
2.Ulti
3.kirby
4.Ben
5. BlueCrystalTear
6. Sbell
7. Lea

Correction Red is not alive not sure how I did that

cancelled shows
1. HAN-Ahh Real Monsters-Town Doctor/scarer
2. Mzero- Hey Arnold- Town Mayor
3.Chang- Doug Town Lie detector
4. DYL- Rocket Power Scum Redirector
5. Plum- Jimmy Nutron Scum Evil inventor
6. IGCD- Legends of the hidden temple- town theif
7. Tudus- Clarissa Exsplains it all- Town Vanilla
8. Red- Angry Beavers- Town Vanilla/back up doctor
9. Death- The Amanda Show- Scum Vanilla Cop

It looks like another show has been canceled this time one about a wallaby. It was kind of inappropriate looking back
Anyways Ben had a Modern Mafia life and is no longer in the game.

Roccos Modern Life.
1992-1996

Roccos Modern Life town vanilla

Roccos Modern Life was about a lower class wallaby who moves from his native home in Australia to the United States. Rocco along with his friend Heffer try to get by in life and what is to be a Modern everyday life sourronded by horrible bosses, annoying neighbors, and everyday life struggles.

As town vanilla you are well Modern and nothing special just your average everyday role that does nothing.

You win when all threats to town are cancelled.

cancelled shows
1. HAN-Ahh Real Monsters-Town Doctor/scarer
2. Mzero- Hey Arnold- Town Mayor
3.Chang- Doug Town Lie detector
4. DYL- Rocket Power Scum Redirector
5. Plum- Jimmy Nutron Scum Evil inventor
6. IGCD- Legends of the hidden temple- town theif
7. Tudus- Clarissa Exsplains it all- Town Vanilla
8. Red- Angry Beavers- Town Vanilla/back up doctor
9. Death- The Amanda Show- Scum Vanilla Cop
10. Ben- Rocco's Modern Life- Town Vanilla

The watch list

1.Sheep
2.Ulti
3.kirby
4. BlueCrystalTear
5. Sbell
6. Lea

6 left 4 to hammer anyone excited Go! GO! go!

After sleeping on it... allow me to explain some things.
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

First, Lea, Tidus felt as blatant of scum as Death at the time. And it was Death hammering Tidus that made it 100% crystal clear that he was scum. I was shocked when Tidus flipped town. I have no idea why you guys want to mislynch me just the same as Tidus because of a silly presumption that doesnt have any rational sense. I know Im town, which is why I get so defensive.

PunishedBen posted...

Since I have never played with BCT, I've been hesitating to say whether I read their postings as fake or genuine. Because that can entirely depend on the individual sometimes.

But my initial reaction to the whole offensive against Kirby on this page is that it reads as incredibly fake. Especially the part about Death and Kirby now having equal scumminess. So there ya go.

To explain myself here... as someone on the spectrum, I get easily dysregulated by blindsides, especially when I'm under stress. This is what caused me to flip out the way I did four years ago, and it was starting down that road again. I said this going into the game that if I was starting this descent into madness to tell me to take a walk, but thankfully I went and did that on my own... 45 minutes to go pick up my car after its $660 brake job. Yeesh.

So you can see why I was stressed and why I stopped thinking rationally. I don't like being pushed around like that. When Corrik did that four years ago, I labeled him as scum (he was; I was town) and committed public harikiri... which was stupid of me and precisely why I didn't play again for so long. I don't think rationally in this state. And that may be why I wasn't processing who was what since Kirby caught me completely off guard with his lack of logic. Having more time to talk this out will bring forth more information. Not wanting that is not very friendly for town.

Kirby trying to save Death to mislynch me without giving me time to defend myself still reeks of scum, so ##Vote: Kirby.

Votals like pop rocks and Coca-Cola

[1] Bct- Lea
[1] Kirby- BCT

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

You said it yourself that instead of distracting ourselves with whatever's "fun" that we should be lynching scum. Right here, topic 3, post 112:

Like, you know what's better than a "fun" lynch? Lynching scum. Winning. The end of day one sure wasn't boring, but it didn't really work out. For anyone. Sometimes you just take the obvious scum and go from there.

Why the sudden change? We should be lynching scum, not me.

ulti. time to play.

who scum?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Kirby trying to save Death to mislynch me without giving me time to defend myself still reeks of scum, so ##Vote: Kirby.

You had the entire day to defend yourself. Need I remind you that Ben and Sheep said you were second place on the scum list, right behind Death.

This is baseless. My argument was logical and based on the same assumption that Ben and Sheep made. You're just grasping for a low-hanging fruit.

##Vote: BCT

I'd like to hear what you have to say without a full list of my night actions.

if you are taking bct and kirby off your list that leaves sheep or Lea.

but not both. I don't believe there is a 5th.

Kirby321 posted...

You had the entire day to defend yourself. Need I remind you that Ben and Sheep said you were second place on the scum list, right behind Death.

Defend myself from what? And when? I don't recall ever being directly attacked until you started getting on my case.

Maybe you don't have a life and don't understand it? IDK.

But even so, your argument wasn't logical. It was about sparing someone everyone knew was scum. YOU were grasping at straws, not me. YOU were trying to arrange a last-minute mislynch, not me. Stop projecting and start thinking rationally.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Kirby and BCT, please unvote. You are clearly both emotional town and lend yourselves to being easily manipulated.

I don't want to unvote while my vote is on scum, though.

Alright, alright. I just wanted to say that.

##unvote

... This is why I wanted to keep Ben alive. This is literally why I wanted to special BCT yesterday over Death. I can only imagine Ben screaming into the abyss at how foolish we're being right now.

This is why Ben asked you people so many goddamn times about everyone's plans on what to do today, but none of the people he was interested in hearing from actually said anything.

So no, I'm not taking my vote off of BCT. We had a plan with consensus from the people who were actively giving their input. Give me a damn good reason to believe BCT is town, and I'll take my vote off.

Seriously, I'm going to need an extremely good explanation for why Lea is even remotely suspicious. This is senseless paranoia that Ben would've spoken out against.

Kirby321 posted...

This is why I wanted to keep Ben alive. This is literally why I wanted to special BCT yesterday over Death.

Literally zero connection between the two of these. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

So no, I'm not taking my vote off of BCT. We had a plan with consensus from the people who were actively giving their input. Give me a damn good reason to believe BCT is town, and I'll take my vote off.

##Vote: Kirby

Scum benefits from a quick mislynch. That's very clearly what you and your buddies are talking about right now. And you clearly know I'm town and you just slipped.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Literally zero connection between the two of these. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Please re-read this post which explains my logic for why I believe lynching you could've protected Ben or at least given Sbell an extra scan: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80072428/966241246

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Scum benefits from a quick mislynch. That's very clearly what you and your buddies are talking about right now. And you clearly know I'm town and you just slipped.

Then Lea is my scumbuddy, yes? She voted before I even did. What's your argument for that?

There's no connection between the two of them because I am town. And you just ignored me saying the same logic could apply to you and dismissed it the same way I am dismissing yours. You don't even notice this double standard you have?

And there's always a chance that Lea is scum, however small. But because she's trying to rush it - and ignoring me pointing out a contradiction - I am growing increasingly suspicious of her. She should take her vote off me. It's really way too early in the day for town to be throwing votes around unless it's on someone who just softclaimed scum.

*sigh* We're beating a dead horse at this point. I want to hear what everyone else has to say about this. We could fill up this topic debating about the same, exact topic, but that wouldn't be very productive.

And so we return to the time-old trouble of getting people to actually talk and discuss stuff >_>

Kirby, I'm town. You say you're town too. Let's say we're both telling the truth. Who do you think the remaining scum is/are? I ask because the fact that you are so laser focused on me is setting off all kinds of red flags.

I will answer the same question after you do.

By process of elimination, it has to be Sheep if you're not scum.

Sbell is tracker. Ulti has the scan from IGCD. And Lea is a complete opposite of her last game, where she was scum.

Ulti, what interactions did Lea have with Plum, DYL, and Death that make you think she is scum?

I'm going to need a more convincing argument than just role meta to believe Lea is scum.

Kirby321 posted...

Sbell is tracker. Ulti has the scan from IGCD. And Lea is a complete opposite of her last game, where she was scum.

Since Death was scum and Ben was town, SBell's admitted scan clears him completely.

Ulti having IGCD's scan doesn't clear him if he's godfather, right? I don't think anyone ever answered my question of how flavor cop scans work with a godfather who's supposed to scan as vanilla town. That said, I dunno what to make of Ulti. SBell said he didn't move N1 and IGCD's scan lines up, so... I could be getting played here. Ulti arranging the Han lynch and then unvoting still doesn't sit right with me but a lot of things line up. Additionally, Ulti telling us to unvote so we don't get ahead of ourselves is good for town. I listened. You refuse to. That is not a good look, and that's why I revoted.

Lea being "the opposite of last game" doesn't mean a thing. She had time to think about what she did wrong and adjust her playstyle, and now she's taking a different approach. I don't see Lea as completely cleared; in fact, she's becoming one of my top suspects after you, Kirby. The only other one is Sheep, simply by process of elimination and nothing to clear him.

I am starting to think that Lea may actually be brilliant scum more and more, and I see Ulti's going down that road. He might actually be onto something. Has anyone even tried to target Lea? I would have certainly considered it if I had an appropriate role, but I'm just vanilla.

Though I too am going to bed. Seems like this'll be settled in the morning.

Oh my gosh

Ben, I am so sorry you have to sit through this

Everyone who says Lea is scum: I want you to find every incriminating interaction between Lea and the three flipped scum: Plum, DYL, and Death.

If you can't find anything substantial, you have no argument.

Nobody has read anything Ben said yesterday. He may as well have been dead anyway!