Current Events > Robb Elementary will be demolished

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Zikten posted...

we need to have the bodycwm footage looked at before this happens. My fear is something on the tapes will show something we might want to investigate but it will be too late cause the evidence and crime scene will no longer exist

They are rushing to demolish to do a cover up

You're not allowed to delete body smoke footage and any footage if deleted will get investigated (hopefully)

Seems like a waste on money. Won't taxpayers have to pay for a new school? I think the new replacement Sandy Hook school cost $50 million.

Just keep it closed for a few months and reopen it again.

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Don't fix gun laws, tear down buildings where bad things happen. Solid logic.

Stewman_Magoo posted...

Don't fix gun laws, tear down buildings where bad things happen. Solid logic.

Yes, because it's clearly a one or the other thing. Shut the fuck up lol.

Kalk posted...

Seems like a waste on money. Won't taxpayers have to pay for a new school? I think the new replacement Sandy Hook school cost $50 million.

Just keep it closed for a few months and reopen it again.

Oh look another mid-aughts account who's never posted here before.

CE is definitely the kind of people to dig a half eaten donut out of the trash and be like, What? You gonna waste that?

Yeah, CE. I am. I am going to waste that.

Q anons be like "Why demolish the building, what are they trying to hide in there, hmmm"

I got robbed outside my local 7/11. Putting in a formal complaint and request to tear it down to city hall :(

"I'm going to compare a ton of children and some adults being brutally murdered to being robbed, but I'm totally not trolling guys"

Stewman_Magoo posted...

I got robbed outside my local 7/11. Putting in a formal complaint and request to tear it down to city hall :(

The leaps in logic you are trying to make between scenarios here is quite astounding. Impressive, even.

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That can happen in any sort of case. A tragedy doesnt not begin and end and a shooting, you can have different means of something that can psychologically scar and damage a person and by that same line of logic a building should be torn down? Sorry but unless something is condemned or is being torn down to be rebuilt with a much more modern and stable building I think just tearing it down is a waste of money and resources.

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Oh hey, yet another one.

This is tough.

I certainly wouldn't want to send a kid back into the building and rooms where there friends were murdered in front of them.

Yet I can see how it seems excessive. Like in 5 years (depending on the amount of grades in that building), none of the kids who were there during the shooting would still be attending the school.

If there was some other way to move the kids to a different building for the next few years, but that just seems like an absolute logistical nightmare.

Nerevar791 posted...

User Info: Baha05
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Oh hey, yet another one.

Not sure why you are bothering bring up my karma and things. Its one thing to argue in favor of making children go back so soon but to demolish a building based on tragedy just opens to flood gates to questions about other buildings that have had some traumatizing events taking place. Be it a shooting, bombing, or just any number of things that can cause people stress.

Nerevar791 posted...

User Info: Baha05
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Oh hey, yet another one.

It's weird to see a new user point out an old one who is? I don't know

SergeantGander posted...

This is tough.

It's not though, is the thing.

SergeantGander posted...

Like in 5 years (depending on the amount of grades in that building), none of the kids who were there during the shooting would still be attending the school.

Speaking as someone who has worked a decent amount in schools, I as an adult would also not be super keen on working in a place where I watched my coworkers gunned down and had to hide for my life, but that's just me.

itachi15243 posted...

It's weird to see a new user point out an old one who is? I don't know

Look at my sig. This board has a trend of accounts made ~15-20 years ago randomly showing up here to troll or post right-wing shit whove never posted on this board before.

Look, emotions are high because elementary school students were shot up, understandable. But (and I hate myself for saying this) Baha is right, tearing down a building where something this terrible happens isn't a solution.

All it does is cost money for taxpayers and doesn't do anything to fix the problem that happened that caused this in the first place.

Tear it down? They should blow it up with dynamite. No child should ever have to step a foot on that property ever again.

Baha05 posted...

That can happen in any sort of case. A tragedy doesnt not begin and end and a shooting, you can have different means of something that can psychologically scar and damage a person and by that same line of logic a building should be torn down? Sorry but unless something is condemned or is being torn down to be rebuilt with a much more modern and stable building I think just tearing it down is a waste of money and resources.

This is a site of a mass shooting. It's a trauma the community needs to heal from together. You need to seriously spend some time concentrating on seeing this issue through the eyes of those making the decision.

Nerevar791 posted...

It's not though, is the thing.

Speaking as someone who has worked a decent amount in schools, I as an adult would also not be super keen on working in a place where I watched my coworkers gunned down and had to hide for my life, but that's just me.

I'm definitely more on the side of demolishing the building.

Just saying I can sort of see the hesitancy with tearing down a building when a tragedy occurs. Where do you draw the line, if less than 5 kids are hurt you leave it up? Less than 3?

What if a kid gets stabbed? Does the building come down? What if a boiler explodes and injures a few? All tragic events but which tragedies are bad enough to start demolition?

I'm certainly not envious of anyone that has to make those hard decisions and I really wish they didn't have to be made. It is a complex issue and that is what I meant by "tough"

Nerevar791 posted...

Look at my sig. This board has a trend of accounts made ~15-20 years ago randomly showing up here to troll or post right-wing shit whove never posted on this board before.

Except thats not what I am doing so makes no sense to call attention to my karma there. Im just saying that its just wasteful. Just consider this. Consider just the over all world wide amount of tragedies that happened over the last 30 years for any number of different traumatic events. Can you imagine how often you would have to demolish a building or city block? It would be insanity to do that after any given event.

Stewman_Magoo posted...

Look, emotions are high because elementary school students were shot up, understandable. But (and I hate myself for saying this) Baha is right, tearing down a building where something this terrible happens isn't a solution.

All it does is cost money for taxpayers and doesn't do anything to fix the problem that happened that caused this in the first place.

No.
Youre wrong.

Ive already explained that this is the correct logistical decision as well. The building is old as hell. And are we forgetting that it was a malfunctioning door that let the gunman in? The building has issues.

WrestlinFan posted...

This is a site of a mass shooting. It's a trauma the community needs to heal from together. You need to seriously spend some time concentrating on seeing this issue through the eyes of those making the decision.

Which is a fair point but again how many similar sites like this exist in the country or even in the world that are still standing? I mean fuck the Boston Bombing would be several near by buildings at that rate.

Nerevar791 posted...

Look at my sig. This board has a trend of accounts made ~15-20 years ago randomly showing up here to troll or post right-wing shit whove never posted on this board before.

Yeah I know, I just kinda felt the need to pint it out, since it's the opposite of what usually happens.

RedRanger posted...

No.
Youre wrong.

Ive already explained that this is the correct logistical decision as well. The building is old as hell. And are we forgetting that it was a malfunctioning door that let the gunman in? The building has issues.

If that's the reason why they plan to tear it down then go ahead.

But if this is some attempt to stop mass shootings in schools from happening, that is legit toddler logic. The only way to stop mass shootings from happening is to figure out your gun problem.

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I guess but at the same time they are going to have to go to some school in the meantime which again doesnt solve the overall issue of gun control that would make places safer. And it doesnt change that again a tragedy isnt just gun violence.

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Because its part of the trauma its going to be brought up because this demolishing is going to be funded by the government. So they are tossing money to demolish something rather then fix the bigger issue at play here.

Stewman_Magoo posted...

But if this is some attempt to stop mass shootings in schools from happening,

What? How did your mind even get here? This is about tearing down a old ass building and not sending kids to school in a mass graveyard. How are you not getting this?

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You don't think gun control has anything to do with the school being torn down?

Learn what a strawman is dude.

RedRanger posted...

What? How did your mind even get here? This is about tearing down a old ass building and not sending kids to school in a mass graveyard. How are you not getting this?

Remind me again how that school was turned into a mass graveyard?

All of the pearl clutching from people in this topic that will likely never step within 100 miles of this town let alone this school is really strange

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Ya this is my point lol. Do you even know what you're arguing about?

Sorry misunderstood your post, I thought you said gun violence. If the school is being torn down for structural reasons then whatever.

But hey it's not my money being wasted.

There's an ongoing investigation going on. How are they going to tear down the crime scene? This whole thing is getting shadier and shadier by the day.

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Again Im not saying people need to be forced. Thats the strawman YOU are bringing in. Im just saying that demolishing a building based on just a tragedy is wasteful and impractical.

Burn it down, salt the earth, and declare the site cursed ground that shall lay barren to the end of time.

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*rolls eyes*

Here are some excerpts from the article for those of you who didn't read it:

They dont want to go back into that school, said Gutierrez, who represents Uvalde. It certainly needs to be a community decision, but that needs to happen.

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I dont think anybodys plans are but to tear that building down, Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin said in an interview with KENS 5. It needs to be torn down. I would never ask, expect, a child to have to walk through those doors ever, ever again. That building needs to be gone. Taken away. Gone.

The Uvalde school board had discussed replacing the school prior to Tuesdays shooting.

In 2021, a Texas Association of School Boards analyst visited each UCISD campus. He recommended Robb for replacement within the decade.

Robb Elementary opened in 1955. Its aging facilities are among the best the district has to offer, according to the TASB analyst.

In March, the school board took first steps toward piecing together a bond package, which may have funded Robbs demolition and replacement. Policymakers hoped to put a proposal on the November ballot.

Mourners visiting a growing memorial at the school said its hard to imagine children returning to class at Robb.

There were already talks about the school needing to be demolished/replaced before the shooting. Also, this article was published May 30th.

VideoboysaysCube posted...

There's an ongoing investigation going on. How are they going to tear down the crime scene? This whole thing is getting shadier and shadier by the day.

And to add to this if they do decide to demolish the building it will most likely take months before they start it seeing as its still a school and crime scene so they are going to most likely going to finish the investigation when its done and they are going to move the supplies (books, computers, records, etc) before just demolishing it.