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CRON
06/06/22 3:22:24 PM
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  • Lock screens can be fully customized with color, font, and placement options, and paralax effects
  • iMessages can be unsent and edited, within a specific window of time
  • iPadOS now has a dedicated first-party weather app
  • New iPadOS multitasking, but it looks like some mid-2000s Linux bullshit and is only available on M1 iPads
  • No Man's Sky is coming to Macs, and runs like dog shit
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RealityDose
06/06/22 3:24:18 PM
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Meanwhile samsung be like: bro we got dex mode several years ago

It sucks how shit ipadOS is
like it's a fucking powerful machine and is locked behind the garbage of apple's marketing of 'ipad is a computer but it's a computer with extreme limitations'

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AloneIBreak
06/06/22 3:25:56 PM
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The iMessage stuff is nice. I dont give a fuck about the rest really and I dont have an iPad so iPadOS doesnt matter for me.

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MICHALECOLE
06/06/22 3:26:14 PM
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Unsent iMessage is fuckin awesome

no more whoopsies!
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Smashingpmkns
06/06/22 3:26:54 PM
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Is a weather app really worth announcing

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Shishiwakamaru
06/06/22 3:27:12 PM
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Great, the imessage thing is awesome.

Now we just need polls in imessage

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Irony
06/06/22 3:27:16 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Unsent iMessage is fuckin awesome

no more whoopsies!
It most likely leaves "message unsent" which causes a conversation anyways

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MICHALECOLE
06/06/22 3:34:53 PM
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Irony posted...
It most likely leaves "message unsent" which causes a conversation anyways
Thats easier to explain than some other things
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Irony
06/06/22 3:37:35 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Thats easier to explain than some other things
Stop sending dick pics

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legendary_zell
06/06/22 3:40:46 PM
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That iMessage part might destroy many legal case that depend on texts, depending on how it's implemented.

Very good for regular peeps though

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FL81
06/06/22 3:43:11 PM
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CRON posted...
iMessages can be unsent and edited, within a specific window of time
How? What if the recipient isn't using iMessage?

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MICHALECOLE
06/06/22 3:48:43 PM
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Irony posted...
Stop sending dick pics
Check your inbox
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CRON
06/06/22 3:50:54 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
That iMessage part might destroy many legal case that depend on texts, depending on how it's implemented.

Very good for regular peeps though
When a message is edited, there's a small label underneath that says "edited" with a timestamp.
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thronedfire2
06/06/22 3:52:50 PM
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I'm sure Apple will still save the originals

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Xethuminra
06/06/22 3:57:18 PM
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The interface should emulate an iPod.

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iPhone_7
06/06/22 4:00:06 PM
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I dont know what more I really need from my phone, its pretty good as it is, but the added customization options are neat.

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Xethuminra
06/06/22 4:01:51 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
I dont know what more I really need from my phone, its pretty good as it is, but the added customization options are neat.
iPods were a lot of fun to use.

It's kinda hard to reach the top of the screen anyway, eh? Album art. Yuck.

Function > everything
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FL81
06/06/22 4:03:36 PM
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Xethuminra posted...


Function > everything
SanDisk made the best music players >_>

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Shishiwakamaru
06/06/22 4:04:25 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
iPods were a lot of fun to use.

It's kinda hard to reach the top of the screen anyway, eh? Album art. Yuck.

Function > everything

I remember seeing people complaining when Safari on iOS changed to make the address bar on the bottom of the screen because obviously people will complain about any change.

I use two browsers on my iphone, one where the address bar is still on the top, and WOW is being on the bottom a big improvement.

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Xethuminra
06/06/22 4:06:17 PM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
06/06/22 4:07:08 PM
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How about an always-on display?

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KamenRiderBlade
06/06/22 4:12:59 PM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
How about an always-on display?
That's going to drain your battery incredibly fast.

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Shinnokxz
06/06/22 4:13:21 PM
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we all know the reason why they push underwhelming stuff like this so they can stop supporting perfectly fine and performing hardware to push people to buy new
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Xethuminra
06/06/22 4:13:45 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
That's going to drain your battery incredibly fast.
No faster than overloading its memory with junk files
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
06/06/22 4:15:10 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
That's going to drain your battery incredibly fast.
So why would Apple enable that on a tiny Apple Watch battery but not their smartphones which have much larger capacities?

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AloneIBreak
06/06/22 4:15:26 PM
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
I remember seeing people complaining when Safari on iOS changed to make the address bar on the bottom of the screen because obviously people will complain about any change.

I use two browsers on my iphone, one where the address bar is still on the top, and WOW is being on the bottom a big improvement.
Bar on the bottom is fucking awesome, especially as phones seem to be settling in the 6+ range. My pathetic little beta hands cant reach that shit.

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Xethuminra
06/06/22 4:17:33 PM
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iPhone Pro?
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Proto_Spark
06/06/22 4:18:36 PM
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So much of the new iOS stuff basically falls into the category of "that's super neat, but I'll never use it" which I mean, most of the stuff people really need is probably gone by this point.

I bet unbending messages won't work unless you both have iMessage, meaning I lose a lot of that value.

Getting to add STOPS to a maps route is a great improvement, and stuff like counting the tolls etc... could be a huge improvement and this one is just flat out a great improvement.

Putting Spotlight at the bottom of the homescreen could easily be great - I use the crap out of spotlight on my Mac because its so easy to use.

THEY GOT RID OF THE PINK MACBOOK AIR (not related to iOS, but still)
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Kloe_Rinz
06/06/22 4:18:40 PM
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Shinnokxz posted...
we all know the reason why they push underwhelming stuff like this so they can stop supporting perfectly fine and performing hardware to push people to buy new
Maybe but their devices are still supported longer than all androids so this argument doesnt really hold any water
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Shishiwakamaru
06/06/22 4:24:58 PM
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They also have a new app (Freeform) where you can open it and just draw stuff like Paint.

I've wanted this forever. I always had to use Notes before.

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CRON
06/06/22 4:25:16 PM
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
They also have a new app (Freeform) where you can open it and just draw stuff like Paint.

I've wanted this forever. I always had to use Notes before.
Why not just pay for Procreate?
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
06/06/22 4:25:18 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Maybe but their devices are still supported longer than all androids so this argument doesnt really hold any water
True but it's becoming a weaker argument by the day. Samsung (who basically owns Android at this point) is up to 4 years of OS updates and 5 years of security patches on their flagships. When you get to 5 years, who really cares anymore?

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Shishiwakamaru
06/06/22 4:27:56 PM
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CRON posted...
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Xethuminra
06/06/22 4:28:32 PM
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Was iPhone ever a designer phone?
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CRON
06/06/22 4:28:46 PM
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Freeform isn't intended to be an iPad version of MS Paint though.
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Kloe_Rinz
06/06/22 4:29:41 PM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
True but it's becoming a weaker argument by the day. Samsung (who basically owns Android at this point) is up to 4 years of OS updates and 5 years of security patches on their flagships. When you get to 5 years, who really cares anymore?
Shinno obviously cares so its not nobody. The whole idea of this update kills older devices is a non-argument when youre talking about devices 8 years old or older
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mustachedmystic
06/06/22 4:30:22 PM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
How about an always-on display?
I was just reading about this. Supposedly they will implement this when they put out phones with OLED displays.

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Shishiwakamaru
06/06/22 4:30:34 PM
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CRON posted...
Freeform isn't intended to be an iPad version of MS Paint though.

Yes it's intended to be a digital whiteboard, so really it's better than Paint.

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Baha05
06/06/22 4:31:03 PM
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CRON posted...
* Lock screens can be fully customized with color, font, and placement options, and paralax effects
* iMessages can be unsent and edited, within a specific window of time
* iPadOS now has a dedicated first-party weather app
* New iPadOS multitasking, but it looks like some mid-2000s Linux bullshit and is only available on M1 iPads
* No Man's Sky is coming to Macs, and runs like dog shit

Now can it allow me to finally have good lock screen backgrounds?


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Shishiwakamaru
06/06/22 4:31:50 PM
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Baha05 posted...
Now can it allow me to finally have good lock screen backgrounds?

dude get a cat or dog

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mustachedmystic
06/06/22 4:32:32 PM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
So why would Apple enable that on a tiny Apple Watch battery but not their smartphones which have much larger capacities?
Because Apple Watch 6 has an OLED.

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
06/06/22 4:32:43 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
I was just reading about this. Supposedly they will implement this when they put out phones with OLED displays.
But iPhones have had OLED displays since iPhone X right?

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Xethuminra
06/06/22 4:33:01 PM
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
dude get a cat or dog
I prefer my electrons on the inside
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KamenRiderBlade
06/06/22 4:35:04 PM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
So why would Apple enable that on a tiny Apple Watch battery but not their smartphones which have much larger capacities?

Nobody needs their phone display to be on when they aren't using it.

Traditional Watches have expectations to have their display on the whole time.

Series 7 Apple Watch:
-> 41mm: 352430 = 151,360 pixels w/ 284.2 mAh internal battery
compared to iPhone 13/Pro 2,962,440 pixels ~= 19.572x more pixels w/ 11.355x / 10.890x more battery

-> 45mm: 396484 = 191,664 pixels w/ 308.8 mAh internal battery
compared to iPhone Pro Max: 3,566,952 pixels ~= 18.610x more pixels w/ 14.093x more battery

Apple iPhones:
13 /Pro: 25321170 = 2,962,440 pixels with 3,227 mAh / 3095 mAh battery
Pro Max: 27781284 = 3,566,952 pixels with 4,352 mAh battery

The Total # of Pixels needed to be rendered & GPU/CPU/SOC processing demand for driving such few pixels on your Apple Watch is far more reasonable than compared to the full blown iPhone which has significantly more pixels and proportionally smaller batteries. Having to render that many more pixels is more demanding on not only the display's power draw, but also the CPU/GPU/SOC.

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Baha05
06/06/22 4:35:22 PM
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
dude get a cat or dog
I do have a dog but I want a non dog background and I hate how the time and the restrictions for the lock is

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mustachedmystic
06/06/22 4:38:57 PM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
But iPhones have had OLED displays since iPhone X right?
You're right, they do. Anyway, the article I read this morning said something about each individual pixel being individually backlit making always on displays easier on battery life. Is this an inherent feature of all OLED displays, or just newer ones?

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CRON
06/06/22 4:39:46 PM
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One more thing that I forgot - you can enable haptic feedback for the keyboard.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
06/06/22 4:41:58 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Nobody needs their phone display to be on when they aren't using it.

Traditional Watches have expectations to have their display on the whole time.

Series 7 Apple Watch:
-> 41mm: 352430 = 151,360 pixels w/ 284.2 mAh internal battery
compared to iPhone 13/Pro 2,962,440 pixels ~= 19.572x more pixels w/ 11.355x / 10.890x more battery

-> 45mm: 396484 = 191,664 pixels w/ 308.8 mAh internal battery
compared to iPhone Pro Max: 3,566,952 pixels ~= 18.610x more pixels w/ 14.093x more battery

Apple iPhones:
13 /Pro: 25321170 = 2,962,440 pixels with 3,227 mAh / 3095 mAh battery
Pro Max: 27781284 = 3,566,952 pixels with 4,352 mAh battery

The Total # of Pixels needed to be rendered & GPU/CPU/SOC processing demand for driving such few pixels on your Apple Watch is far more reasonable than compared to the full blown iPhone which has significantly more pixels and proportionally smaller batteries. Having to render that many more pixels is more demanding on not only the display's power draw, but also the CPU/GPU/SOC.
Having an AOD is a lot less taxing than you think it is. On my phone, it consumes a couple % of battery over a 24 hour period. Furthermore, you could just disable the option if you don't like it.

Let the end user determine if it's useful or not.

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Kloe_Rinz
06/06/22 4:43:00 PM
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Im fine with AOD so long as its switched off by default
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The-Apostle
06/06/22 5:07:34 PM
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Most of those updates sound neat!

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